Talk:Letitia Elizabeth Landon

Move?

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Letitia Elizabeth Landon → L. E. L. —
 * per WP:COMMONNAME - article lead states "...better known by her initials L. E. L." – 86.147.204.169 (talk) 04:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * object clearly not ; are you saying this is the only thing known as LEL? 64.229.103.232 (talk) 05:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * See LEL. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * What do the reliable sources call her? Just because she signed her works L.E.L. doesn't mean that academic sources refer to her as such.  Powers T 15:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Our sources use her full name. — kwami (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * oppose -- WP does not like abbreviations, as they are only useful to those who known the expansion. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

airbrushed?
The image of LEL is described thus: "(this is the 'airbrushed' version, made suitable for the Victorian public.)", but there doesn't seem to be any further explanation in the article body. This seems to obliquely suggest something scandalous or salacious. This should either be described in the article (with citations), or the cryptic note should be removed. (The note was added in this edit by Esme Shepherd). Pburka (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I will come back on this when I return from Wimbledon. However, the illustration is not the original by Maclise. Maybe you ought to quiz its contributor on that point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esme Shepherd (talk • contribs) 09:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Here is the original (from National Portrait Gallery) http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw03732/Letitia-Elizabeth-Landon-Mrs-Maclean — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esme Shepherd (talk • contribs) 10:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

OK, I have found Julie Watt's article now. I can be more specific if you prefer but what was being said of Landon' life and death subsequent to that last event was totally outrageous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esme Shepherd (talk • contribs) 11:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The revised disclaimer only adds to the confusion: "this is the 'airbrushed' version, made suitable for the Victorian public in accordance with the misrepresentations of Landon's life and death that were being circulated". This suggests that there was some scandal following her death, but the article doesn't discuss this at all. What were these "misrepresentations of Landon's life and death"? (From comparing the two images, the "airbrushing" seems to amount to an altered hairdo.) One way to avoid an awkward explanation in the caption would be to simply use the original painting instead of the modified one. Pburka (talk) 16:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm going to remove the innuendo for now. Please feel free to add some text to the article (supported by sourced) describing the scandal and misinformation following her death. Pburka (talk) 20:58, 16 July 2016 (UTC)