Talk:Letterkenny

Crime Section Removal
I have removed this section (once again) for the following reasons:

1. It contains POV statements such as: "many attacks have been caused by the travelling community" and "Letterkenny, like all other large Irish cities and towns, has a high rate of violence. Most of this violence takes place on the town’s main street, in the early hours of the morning, and is caused by drunken revellers"

2. The refernece link [6] does not relate to Letterkenny but, rather, to Northern Ireland

3. The other references detail particular crime waves or isolated incidences from 2005 and 2006, which do not prove that crime in Letterkenny is any worse or better than in any other town in Ireland.

Even the Dublin article does not have a Crime Section! Ciaranc 09:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Town Council Offices
This paragraph is confusing to me and needs editing. Who is Tarla McGabhainn and what has being in Berlin to do with the offices in Letterkenny? There is also some sort of ship/funnel of ship incorporated into the design but this isn't mentioned. Also, it is not a grass roof, but some sort of heather. Can someone who knows more about architecture and design than me, edit this piece?

Clean-Up
Hope you all like what I've done with the page! Have described each step so people can see the reasoning behind my decisions. Still more work to be done.Afn

What goes under here is just beautiful.
i think this page should have more detail as there is not enough information about it -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Together&forever (talk • contribs).
 * Granted. However, pasting stuff from websites will do no good. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 23:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

i think there should more information about pubs, shops, restaurants etc. --Together&amp;forever 14:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you keep saying that. Feel free to add such information. However;
 * Do not paste from websites.
 * Please provide an edit summary.
 * Avoid unncessary adjectives such as "beautiful" - it's WP:POV.
 * Sincerely, Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 12:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

what about sport and where will i find the infomation --Together&amp;forever 14:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know. How am I supposed to know? If I knew, I'd add it myself. Try Google. But remember my advice above! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 12:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

what is your opinion on letterkenny and what do you think of the information i put on

i made the edits as i thought there wasn't enough info. about letterkenny --Together&amp;forever 14:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I have no opinion on Letterkenny, really. The information you add is good, although a bit sparse. Some of it looks like it's copied directly from another site on the Internet though. That is not acceptable. Other than that, keep up the good work! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 13:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

i don't copy it is just because i'm good at english and good at phrasing words. do you want me to add to the wikipedia or not --Together&amp;forever 14:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Judging by your comments here and your inability to sign your posts on the talk page and to use edit summaries, you are NOT very good at english. You are welcome to contribute to Wikipedia if thou dost so wish. All I am asking is for you to stick to the rules. -- Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 13:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

sorry --Together&amp;forever 14:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

how do i upload a picture --Together&amp;forever 14:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You should read the tutorial, a link is posted on your talk page. You should consider logging in to your account before making any further edits, too. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 15:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

thank you Together&forever --Together&amp;forever 14:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

i edited the attractions for letterkenny as i thought peiople who are going to visit the town might want more information and places to go and things to do when they come here. Together&forever —Preceding unsigned comment added by Together&forever (talk • contribs)


 * Great, great. But cease copying stuff from the internet and do not remove the notice on merging. I repeat: do not remove the template about merging. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 16:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

ok but am i meant to do anything with the donegal democrat--Together&amp;forever 16:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC) Together&forever


 * No. Thank you. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 16:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

i found out about the painters in the glebe gallery from a brochure i found --Together&amp;forever 16:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * That's not good enough, unfortunately. Those are quite famous painters, so if they're actually hanging there, you could probably find a website saying so. Try [Google. [[User:Jobjörn|Jobjörn]] (Talk | contribs) 17:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

if you go to http://www.accommodationdonegal.com/Attractions.htm you will find my source and i did not copy it i put it in my own words.--Together&amp;forever 17:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forevrer


 * Actually I looked, but I couldn't find it. Where? Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 18:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

go into the website, scroll down and look through the local attractions you should find it there. --Together&amp;forever 14:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC) 19:00, 14 June 2006


 * There is a mention of Glebe Gallery, but no information about the gallery in question. The citation needed-tag is there because a source is needed on the statement that there are paintings by famous Modernist and Cubist painters hanging in it, not that it exists. By the way, please don't remove links just because they are red. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 19:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

it says the glebe gallery above it, well it did when i seen it and it still does and it mentions the painters as well. and that is a reliable source because it is illegal to put false onfo. on the net.--Together&amp;forever 19:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever

can i not put a link to an grianan theatre and people would find more info. why can't i put a link on the red writing.--Together&amp;forever 19:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * It is, as a matter of fact, perfectly legal to put false info on the internet. Where did you get this strange idea?
 * But nevertheless, I found it now. I'll add the reference.
 * You can't (or, rather, shouldn't) put an external link instead of the red link because there is already a link to the An Grianán Theatre website in the External links section. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 19:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

ok thank you how do you make a picture appear on the page e.g. i am talking about a building and i want to place a picture of it beside it to show people what it is like.--Together&amp;forever 19:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * First, see How to edit a page. That will bring you up to date about how you add existing images to articles. Then, if there are no existing image that suits your needs, you can upload a new one. In that case, make sure you understand Image use policy. It is extremely important that you take caution to not upload copyrighted material to Wikipedia. Finally, to upload an image, go to Special:Upload and follow the instructions. If there is something you don't understand, see Uploading images. If you're still not getting it, ask me. Sincerely, Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 19:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Are the pictures o.k--Together&amp;forever 20:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Tigether&forever


 * No, they are not. I removed them from the article and tagged them all for deletion. Did you read through the links I gave you? Apparently not. Don't do it again, ok? Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 21:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

what links--Together&amp;forever 14:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC) 22:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever

Answer me--Together&amp;forever 22:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * These links:
 * How to edit a page
 * Image use policy
 * copyright
 * Uploading images
 * ... which I posted above, at 19:52. You replied with "Are the pictures o.k" at 20:42. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 22:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

can i not take a picture from a website and use it as my picture and if so how, and if not where am i meant to get the pictures--Together&amp;forever 11:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever

are you there helllllllllllllllllo--Together&amp;forever 12:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever e^i(pi) + 1 = 0... that'll roast your pickle.

are you going to tell me or i won't bother writing anymore info--Together&amp;forever 12:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever
 * People aren't online 24/7, so don't expect someone to respond within 40 minutes of you posting. --Kiand 12:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

well you're online so tell me--Together&amp;forever 12:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * You can not take pictures from a website. Nor can you not claim these as yours. Not ever. You are supposed to get pictures by taking them yourself, not by stealing them from someone else. Read Image use policy and copyright. Thank you. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 12:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

And how do you know if I take any pictures from a website--Together&amp;forever 12:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever

answer me.ich habe nicht allen Tag .--Together&amp;forever 13:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Together&forever


 * It's because we are not completely stupid. Dr Zak 13:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

i took away one of the links to the theatre as there was two there.

New topic
anyone got a new topic

i edited the library and arts centre because i thought there wasn't enough information on it.--The Big Brain 18:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

i edited an grianan theatre because it needed more information.

I made a section on amenities for people who want to find out about stuff to do, and I removed The Library and Arts Centre from entertainment to amenities as a library is more of an amenity ratherthan a place of entertainment.--The Big Brain 19:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

my source for the st conals article is http://www.letterkennyguide.com/stconals.asp--The Big Brain 21:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Stop copying stuff directly off the internet. Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 13:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Etymology
I have to say, as a graduate in History from Queen's myself, that the article on the Etymology of Letterkenny is atrociously written!! It is very confusing and, in parts, wildly inaccurate. It badly needs to be revised by someone with a proper knowledge of this subject. The article gives the impression (as of late October 2011) that the O'Cannon Clan were the dominant Gaelic clan in Tír Chonaill, instead of the Mac Lochlainn Clan and, from around the thirteenth century onwards, the famous O'Donnell Clan. Again, this is completely wrong. I would appeal to the 'general editor' of this Wikipedia site to review the Etymology section. Try and get someone with a proper academic background in this subject to write this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.77.15.150 (talk) 21:08, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Letterkenny Images
If anyone has images of any of the topics talked about in the Letterkenny article they would be welcomed.--The Big Brain 17:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed they would. Copyrighted images, however, would not be welcomed. Do you live in or close to Letterkenny? Grab that digital camera and go, go! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 23:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Attractions
Sorry, but some of these really need to go. The trouble with some of them is that they are not actually in Letterkenny! Glenveagh Castle in particular requires a violent stetch of the imagination to be included in this article and certainly does not belong. The museum is the only one that certainly does. It is only a matter of time at this rate until somebody includes the pyramids or the Eiffel tower. Pathlessdesert 15:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I won't mourn them. AWAY! Feel free to clean up the rest of the article too :) Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 15:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually I wrote the parts about the theatre, using information supplied by our dear crazy kid User:Together&forever. But away with it! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 15:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

No sooner said than done. Ridded article of tourist board-sounding stuff, tea and coffee availability, etc. An encyclopedic article really doesn't need this sort of information. Pathlessdesert

will somebody else please add to the letterkenny section. please please--The Big Brain 20:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Clean-up
Sometimes to add to somethi--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)ng, one must take away. If nobody objects, I'm going to take a chainsaw to this article. There is a lot of duplication and bits out of place. The History and Economy section includes (or should include) most of the new info. Afn 16:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Bring out the chainsaw! Jobjörn (Talk | contribs) 18:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Think About It
I put the climate in Letterkenny arrticle and fixed other stuff. is that o.k. I think it is.Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 20:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi qwerty. That climate info you gave is based on general Irish info not Letterkenny. The climate is very different up here compared to Dublin or Wexford.

Another comment is that the Nightlife and Retail sections look a bit like Advertisements. Should Sister Sara'a And Victor's really be mentioned? Not to start a revert war I'll let you sort it out. Afn 09:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

a lot of other places eg shopping centres tell of their retailers look at dublin, cork and their nightlifes as well--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

it isn't an advertisement. i think you should delete half of the dublin article if thats what you think. but i am not deleting it and i really don't think you should and any further action of you deleting these articles i will replace them. thank you.--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 12:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

it's always difficult to know where to stop with info on wikipedia. If you look at the Dublin talk page and Cork talk page you'll see that they have the same problem. As both Boothy (an old wiki war-horse) and Paul75- "It's an encyclopedia not a tourist guide". Afn 14:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

i haven't given too much info. so can i please leave it there, please,. i spent ages writing out the info.--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 14:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

can u take pics from other websites as long as you say where you got them. Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 15:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Simple answer- NO. Afn 09:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

ok thank you--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 11:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding retail and nightlife comment above, that seems to have been taken from wikitravel from contribution i made. Hence, looking like travel guide. i think general comments re retail, nightlife etc, are more appropriate here, rather than naming outlets, etc.. after all, businesses come and go every week......Ciaranc 11:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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 * I am enjoying watching as this project on my hometown grows. Keep up the good work and if any assistance is needed, give me a shout Ryannus 17:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Feel free to edit the article whenever you like. You have made some great contributions.--DevelopedMadness 17:31, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

City of Letterkenny?
I know Letterkenny's population has grown over the last few years, and it has all the makings of a city, but I wasn't aware that it had actually received the official designation of "City" yet, as it says in the box at the bottom of the page. Can someone enlighten me?

Haven't had time to do much editing recently but this caught my attention. No, Letterkenny is not a city, it's not even a borough- see List of cities, boroughs and towns in the Republic of Ireland. Will delete this peice of vanity untill someone can fix it.Afn 10:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That looks better, thanks for that.Mickeyjoe 20:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Folks, L'kenny ain't no city!! The phrase 'catch yoursel' on' comes to mind here! And that's from me, a man who is 'born and bred' in East Donegal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.173.239 (talk) 22:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Ancient Architechture?
Come on guys, there is nothing ancient about Letterkenny. 1843 is the oldest building cited that's only a 164 years old, falls well within the modern age. If you were putting An Grianan or Doe Castle then maybe, but then...there not part of the Modern sprawl that is LK. Brendandh 01:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Now amalgamated to one heading only Ciaranc 10:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

In an Irish sense, the term 'ancient' must mean a building that is, at the very least, around one thousand years old. There is NOTHING like this in L'kenny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.41.240.15 (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I fully concur with the above comments. Perhaps parts - only parts - of Conwal Parish Church may date back to the seventeenth century. However, even here, most of this church dates from the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. This is hardly 'ancient'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.173.239 (talk) 22:53, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Railways - - ya de ya de ya de
I've removed the Closed railway station thing, as i've put a whole infrastructure system in place for Ireland's (the geogrpahic island) rail system. In it's place, i'll put 2 articles, one for Letterkennyy and one for Letterkenny Junction stations. On the railway station articles tthe Category Category:Disused railway stations in County Donegal will take place of the category i've just removed. aNY queries i'd be happy to discuss.

I'm also looking for people to help start up a WikiProject for Ireland#s railways Halowithhorns89 (talk) 17:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

New Line Court
I Disagree.......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Balloholic (talk • contribs) 19:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I shopuld be merged as New LINe Court is not a significant enough area to warrant it's own page. (Ciaranc (talk) 12:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC))


 * Should be merged. And should be merged soon. Merge tag has been on this article for months. Guliolopez (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Final words on this before I merge? Or otherwise just simply remove the tag? Guliolopez (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * There doesn't seem to be any consensus to merge, so I'm just removing the tag. It's been there long enough. Guliolopez (talk) 18:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Letterkenny isn't a lot of things
"Despite its size, Letterkenny is not the County Town (administrative centre) of County Donegal." There must be a less argumentative way of making this point? Reads funny. Sarah777 (talk) 11:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

It's encyclopedic to me. Reads good. States Truth --Balloholic (talk) 12:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

It implies that someone is making a counter-argument? Is someone? Who? Sarah777 (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Are they? What? Who are you and why are you here? And what is the truth? Do you know anything? Or am I just weird on this whole idea? What do you mean? You have a lot of questions to answer. --86.40.219.41 (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Mid importance?
Category:Mid-importance Ireland articles??? Letterkenny is the one location Chuck Berry where performed when he came to Ireland!!! That category is absurd!!! Is someone suggesting that Chuck Berry is irrelevant and unimportant? Or even of "mid-importance"? Chuck Berry would not set a toe in somewhere supposedly "mid-important"!!! --86.40.219.41 (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That there is an insult to the likes of John Lennon!!! He'd be rolling around in his grave if he heard such shiite! --86.40.219.41 (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Schools in Letterkenny
The article says there are 37 primary schools in Letterkenny - a remarkable claim for a town with a total population (urban area + environs) of under 20,000. I think this confusion arises because Letterkenny appears in the postal address of the whole north-west of Donegal. This means that a primary school in Burtonport, about 40 miles from Letterkenny IIRC, will still have a Letterkenny postal address. I think it would be a good idea to clear up this confusion. --Mia-etol (talk) 21:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case the population of Letterkenny should be increased by several thousand taking in the entire postal area as would be the case in other large towns and cities. There is no point in just counting the population of the town centre if the majority of the townspeople live some three and a third dozen miles away. --86.40.222.32 (talk) 13:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This article is about the town - not the postal district, which includes a large proportion of County Donegal. Nobody who lives in Burtonport, or even Kilmacrenan, considers themselves to be an inhabitant of Letterkenny - the postal district simply reflects the fact that the main sorting office is in Letterkenny. Using such logic all the towns and cities in the Six Counties should be included under Belfast as they are all in the Belfast postal district, i.e have postcodes starting with BT. According to the Letterkenny town guide there are 5 primary schools within the environs of Letterkenny, i.e, the UDC area and the surrounding suburbs and I've corrected the entry to reflect this. --Mia-etol (talk) 06:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Crime section
This article has a highly unusual crime section in the sense that such sections are rarely to be found in articles about other towns or, if they are present, significantly smaller, giving just a summary. See for example Dublin, Cork (city), or Sligo. All this despite the fact that this area has one of the lowest crime rates in the Republic. According to the last full Garda Síochána report from 2005, the Northern region has with 16.99 the lowest crime per 1,000 population ratio beside the Western region with a ratio of 16.35. Compare this to the Dublin metropolitan area with a ratio of 39.13 or the Eastern region with 22.72. In the Northern region, County Donegal is below average with a ratio of 15.72 (compare this to Sligo/Leitrim with a ratio of 18.98, to Cork City with a ratio of 26.82 or Dublin North Central that leads the statistics with a ratio of 114.57).

None of these statistics is currently cited within that section. Instead we find random clips of crime incidents which are presented here without a coherent view that puts them into proportion. In its current state, this section looks to me like a violation of NPOV. Because of this inbalanced view this section ought to be removed or significantly revised. --AFBorchert (talk) 10:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Every couple of weeks I've summarised and culled this section (based on the WP:NOTNEWS guidelines). However, several editors (mainly anons) seem to feel the need to quote every newspaper article which happens to mention a Letterkenny "crime" incident. (No matter how non-notable - everything from teenagers drinking behind disused buildings, to scrapping on a Friday night). Frankly I think the whole crime section is (as you note) a disjointed collection of incidents, that don't paint a representative picture. It should either be updated to reflect the stats you quote - and in doing so provide some balance. Or it should just be removed entirely. Guliolopez (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

At long last! See my note in section 1 of contents from 2007.I gave up trying .... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciaranc (talk • contribs) 12:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Florists
Why the obsession with listing a small town florists - and with the web link it does look spammy. noq (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Plus it fails WP:NOTABILITY on several counts - no significant coverage in sources were given, the only source wasn't secondary and the source given wasn't independent of the subject.Autarch (talk) 12:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Tidy Towns
Does the intro chapter really need two out of its three paragraphs dedicated to the fact Letterkenny has performed respectably in the Tidy Towns competitions? Seems a bit excessive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.189.31 (talk) 18:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Its in Ireland
How was no reference to the country made? The island and province were both mentioned, but unlike MOS for places no country. I have corrected this "error", which I hope wont happen again.Murry1975 (talk) 11:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Census 2011
Data from last year's census is now available on the CSO website, the 2006 census is heavily referenced in the Demographics section which should be updated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.184.211 (talk) 02:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

'Largest urban centre in the north-west'?
With the greatest respect, but L'kenny is NOT the largest urban centre in the north-west of Ireland! That status is held by Derry, followed by Omagh. Letterkenny comes in here in third place, just behind Omagh. Laggan Boy (talk) 20:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As has been pointed out - repeatedly - they are in different countries - albeit on the same Island. Unless that situation changes the wording you added was wrong. noq (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Premier Institution of Further and Higher Education in the North-West
Magee College (part of the University of Ulster) is the 'premier' third-level institution in the north-west of Ireland, it being a university, NOT Letterkenny Institute of Technology (L.Y.I.T.). I have edited the article accordingly. Laggan Boy (talk) 23:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

50,000 inhabitants by 2020
Sorry but there's no possible way the town is going to have 50,000 people by 2020, it'd require a growth rate of 250% in less than 8 years! The link given for the source shows up a 404 error as well so I see no reason it should be included in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.161.24 (talk) 23:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Education in Letterkenny
Errigal College, formerly known as Letterkenny Vocational School, was founded in 1914. It was Letterkenny's first secondary school open to both sexes and all religions. Mr Hugo J. Dorrian M.A. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.42.223.10 (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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Return of the Crime section
This was the first talk page topic back in 2007. Now the section is back and growing. My feeling is that the section, although well sourced, is almost entirely inappropriate and unencyclopedic. Specifically: What the 2007 topic stated above applies equally now, 10 years on! Wondering what others think. Thanks Declangi (talk) 05:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * In the first two paragraphs crime is falling then rising
 * Numerous references for Main Street crimes, but this could really be any Main/High Street just about anywhere
 * Brothel section: humorous, but has no place in an encyclopedia
 * I've now removed this section. Additionally, some of its citations were dead per the InternetArchiveBot review of 4 June 2017. Declangi (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The section was recently restored without participating in this discussion. To me it appears to be a compilation of isolated crime reports of the local press, none of them putting this is in a context or in a comparative perspective. The section collects lots of such random details, e.g. “attacked with pitchforks”, “gangs used ninja-type weapons of chains and swords”, “calmed upon the intervention of a local priest” which are synthesized to give the impression of a crime-ridden town. This appears for me to be in violation of WP:OR. For this reason, I would recommend to remove again this section. --AFBorchert (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Link to "future British Kings"
"while Letterkenny also has ancestral links to the future British kings William V and George VII".

They don't become William V or George VII until they are crowned, and in fact, until then, if I understand it, they would be free to choose other Regnal names. Also, this link is dead. Presumably the ancestry is via Diana, Princess of Wales. I'm not managing to find another source to back that up, either via "Patrick Crawford" or "George Marbury". I propose changing their titles at least and tagging with "better citation needed". Dhalamh (talk) 21:29, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I would support deleting this material entirely, both the Jane Austen and Diana connections (in the lead as well as in the History and Culture sections). While the referenced Letterkenny History page is archived here, my main objection would be that notability is not inherited, by ancestors or descendants. This material is borderline trivia/boosterism and certainly not appropriate for the lead section. You're correct that the royal titles are WP:CRYSTALBALL. Declangi (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok, so after reading the article, the relationship isn't ancestral either, as it's by marriage. I deleted from the lead and reworded the Diana bit in the body. It sort-of fits in the context of the discussion of the creation of the town. The Jane Austen link is somewhat relevant to how the town is marketed to tourists, but I'm not strongly against removal of either if you feel like it. I like WP:CRYSTALBALL, hadn't come across it before, thanks.Dhalamh (talk) 21:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Looks good now, your changes tie Diana's ancestor in with the town's foundation while not giving undue emphasis in the lead to this or the Jane Austen connection. Having them in the body, with their sources, as now, is fine. Thanks Declangi (talk) 04:27, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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