Talk:Level 42

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First single and first two albums
The article states they were 'entirely an instrumental act' initially. This is quite wrong, although a common perception. Their early repertoire included Haunted House (by Lee Oscar & played at their first ever gig), Night Train, Wings of Love, Love Meeting Love, Autumn. These are all songs with vocals. The instrumentals were 88, Woman, Theme to Margaret, Mr. Pink, Sandstorm. It was pretty much 50/50. Even if you described them as 'predominantly instrumental' I think that would be a stretch although Haunted House and Night Train didn't make the studio sessions. Even for the 'Level 42' album there were vocal live tracks that also didn't make the studio: Nothing More To Say, Morning Silence. LFG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.60.80.114 (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Was The Sun Goes Down really the first single? I seem to recall The Chinese Way predated it - or maybe that was later??? Also, is it worth mentioning the first two albums (IMHO much better than their later stuff, not that I'd say that in the article!) GRAHAMUK

Never mind - I've researched it and rewritten the article more or less completely. If anyone is not happy with it, well, you know what to do! GRAHAMUK 01:49 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The first two albums are very important! I saw that 'the early tapes' was not mentioned. AHHHHHHH!!!! This album is considered by the fans to be quite important because it shows the real jazz-funk origin of the band. The band even in 2005 is still playing track from that album in Live gigs. That why i edited the article

The article says 'Love Games' was the band's first Polydor single. It wasn't. The first Polydor Single was Love Meeting Love, the second was '(Flying on the) Wings of Love' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.60.80.114 (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Name Origin
Name origin: I'd heard that the band's name might have been taken from a sign on a lift or passageway seen in the Doctor Who serial The Invisible Enemy; I seem to recall something like this being mentioned in the notes in Douglas Adams' radio scripts book, although this Doctor Who storyline apparently aired before Mr. Adams' involvement with that program. B7T 13:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Did they specifically say it was a reference to 42 from the Hitchhiker's novel? The radio series came first and if they named the band in 1979, my guess is it came from the original instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.220.231.143 (talk) 04:46, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Boon/R Gould
Although Boon was always known as 'Boon' he was actually usually credited for writing as 'R Gould' and only rarely 'B Gould'. Although he hasn't been called 'Rowland' since he was very young, it's important he's credited under his real name for accounting purposes.

Boon/Phil mismatch in caption
Boon and Phil are credited the wrong way round on the "Running in the Family" cover pic.

In the origin of the band's name, one suggestion is Tower 42. Considering the building was only named as such in the late 1990s, this seems rather unlikely...

Recent/Edits
The page has been edited recently, but a number of factual errors have been added. 'Learn To Say No' was never released as a single (although this was planned). The idea of a line-up history is a good one, but the one that's been added is inaccurate - the Guaranteed line-up should really cite Allan Holdsworth and not Jakko. Also no mention of Topping/Gelder etc. Need to tidy up - I'll do this soon. LFG

Singles
Hi, it would like to count with the help of all for the construction of own goods for the singles of the group, and even important music. Sitam-if you liberate to help. Thanks.

Morrissey Quote?
Surely the Morrissey quote is bizarre and irrelevant enough to remove from consideration. Morrissey is an artist but is not a legitimate rock critic. Furthermore, no citation was supplied. I did google up a reference to this quote but it was a page that was loaded with further quotes about 80s-era bands that were all supplied without further reference. Barring dissent, I will remove the quote in the next few days. Mojo Tooth 00:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * "Legitimate rock critic"? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?71.90.26.140 08:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

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Fancruft
This article suffers from unsourced, non-referenced, pseudo rock journalism and opinionated fancruft. For only one example - "Dismayed at what he felt was the record company's ineptitude, Gould played only one promotional gig and did not go on the road for the Forever Now tour". Whilst the article has some references, there are large portions without verifiability; allowing all sorts of POV to creep in. I think it needs a radical overhaul to reduce the press release styled nonsense, and return to a more balanced, referenced and encyclopedic tone. Anyone disagree ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Most successful single.
Maybe it should say "Their most successful single in the UK was "Lessons in Love"", since in the US, it was Something About You. I never even heard LiL played anywhere here in the US, other than from my CD player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbw9999 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to meYellowxander (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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Clean-Up
There are several sentences in the article that feel very wrong to me. However, since I don't speak British English, I am not going to change them. Rather I will just bring them to your attention and suggest that a native Brit either adjust them or leave them as is. 1. Level 42 are an English pop rock and jazz-funk band, who had a number of worldwide and UK hits during the 1980s and 1990s. (I believe the who should be which). 2. After much success as a live and studio band in the 1980s, Level 42's commercial profile diminished during the early 1990s...  (This sentence seems to indicate that Level 42's commercial profile had much success as a band rather than Level 42 itself). 3. Also included in the shows was an acoustic set, with Mike Lindup playing the accordion. (This seems to be a very backward way to say it. I would say "An acoustic set was also included in the shows featuring Mike Lindup playing the accordian.)  4.  At a performance in Bournemouth, ex-drummer Gary Husband returned due to Pete Ray Biggin being unavailable. (Why not just say "At a performance in Bournemouth, ex-drummer Gary Husband returned because Pete Ray Biggin was unavailable."?)190.117.216.229 (talk) 19:11, 7 March 2016 (UTC)