Talk:Level luffing crane

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Meccano section
I don't think an entire section about Meccano models is justified in an article about a crane. There should be evidence that this crane in particular is linked to Meccano. Linking websites that show Meccano model of this is irrelevant and does not represent a reference. I can find Meccano/Lego models of pretty much everything. --Ita140188 (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:CITEVAR for one thing and stop both edit-warring and inserting typos into the refs. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:26, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you refer to with WP:CITEVAR. Also, please assume WP:GOODFAITH. I don't see how you can define edit warring the fact that I reverted my own edit. I opened this discussion specifically to address the issue without imposing my view, but you seem to go off topic. --Ita140188 (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You removed a section. I restored it.
 * You removed the refs for that section. I restored them.
 * You again reformatted the refs, against CITEVAR. At no point have you reverted anything you did.
 * The Meccano cranes are these because they are specifically level-luffing cranes and are contemporaneous with the initial development of such cranes. They indicate how this crane design (which some have already wanted to delete, through not knowing that it was different to other non-level cranes) was making it to the public perception of the Meccano builders even in the 1930s. Similarly for block-setting crane. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You reverted my edit that included more than removing the section. I reinstated the section and kept the other edits. Probably there was a mistake in copying that section and a piece of references got lost. I'm not sure how you think I was trying to remove references (which by the way, are not references at all, they are just people building meccano models of cranes). CITEVAR does not say anything about formatting the wikitext of references. Please read it again. Obviously you are not cooperative and assuming I'm in bad faith. Sorry but this is not my idea of Wikipedia, so I will stop arguing and leave this page. But it's editors like you that make a lot of good editors leave. --Ita140188 (talk) 09:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)