Talk:Lexington, Kentucky/Archive 2

Deletion
I just deleted a portion of the second sentence in the article, where the article said Lexington is the second largest city in the state after Louisville and then went on to say that Louisville was the home of the Kentucky Derby. The way this was sentence was structured one could easily read it and think Lexington was the home of the Kentucky Derby. This interjection was by no means clear or necessary as the fact that Louisville is the home of the Kentucky Derby is not even mentioned until the end of the opening paragraph in Louisville's own article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.81.190.232 (talk) 00:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Demographic photo redux
Looks like User talk:74.140.187.112 has been initating the same edits of User talk:74.140.204.192, User talk:74.131.74.181 and user:Klettern. I opened up a case here.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 06:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I notice that the deleting account repeatedly asked for a reason why the picture was there. None was ever given, and no attempt was made to actually address his argument... --Starwed 06:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure there was, in numerous arguments here (look in archives) and in the case cited above. It's too bad the opposing party never bothered to make any follow-ups.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretend I'm stupid then, because I can't see the counterargument anywhere in either the archives or the case, and state it explicitly here. :)  --Starwed 06:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The image has been on the article for a very long time. Previous attempts to remove it by user:Klettern, a single purpose account, failed with a consensus non-consensus. However, other editors have stepped in to revert the changes...
 * There has been no valid reason indicated why the image must be removed.
 * Just because one user (who had various IPs that was removing the same image) did not think the image was approperiate, does not grant them access or the right to outright delete it and cry foul. I repeatably went out of my way to ensure that the process was handled fairly -- through discussion, warnings on the IPuser and user page, and finally the mediation cabal. It's funny that the IPuser/user never commented on the image and the discussion was dead in the water pretty much. The case is now closed and another would need to be opened, if you wish to have the image removed again.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 07:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Per the deleting account repeatedly asked for a reason why the picture was there from your statement: Why must a reason be added when a user adds an image, if it is not wholly inappropriate? There were no debates regarding the image until the single purpose account went on the reverting spree.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 07:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm just curious. Maybe I'm wondering why, despite repeated requests for a rationale, none was forthcoming... as the deleter noted, being present on a page doesn't imply that an image should be present.  It seemed odd, and I assumed that if I posted a query here, someone would resolve my curiosity on the matter.  I guess that won't be the case?  --Starwed 12:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I stand by the comment I made in the mediation case (which was never really addressed). Klettern gave two reasons for removing the image. One, I find to be silly (that by including this picture, we must include a picture of every church in town), but the other has some merit. What information does this picture's inclusion convey? While this is not necessarily grounds to remove the photo, it should at least give us pause. It's great to have images in an article, but it's even better if the images illustrate a key point. This photo seems to be here just for the sake of having an image; it might as well be a waterfall, a butterfly, or a sunset, because it has little to do with the article. Can't we find something better to put here? Cmadler 13:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was open to suggestions on what could go there. What would really be approperiate?  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 18:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The beginning of the section discusses the metro area (MSA and CSA), this might be illustrated by an aerial/satellite photo.
 * A photo of the largest church in town.
 * A photo representative of the largest religion/denomination/sect in town (might be the same).
 * A photo of a church with historical or cultural signifigance to Lexington.
 * A chart or graph illustrating Lexington's historical population growth.
 * A chart or graph illustrating MSA or CSA population.
 * A chart or graph illustrating racial makeup, age distribution, or religious distribution.
 * These are just some quick ideas off the top of my head, I'm sure we can think of more. Whatever the picture is, it should have a caption which not only identifies it but explains the signifigance. Cmadler 19:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I added the College of the Bible image that was already existing on Wikipedia for the historical/cultural significance. A chart or graph regarding the population of Lexington might work as well, but I'm not the best in creating the charts.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 20:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Neighborhoods
As Louisville has a list of neighborhoods, I think it would be appropriate to have a similar list for Lexington. Places like:


 * Pralltown
 * Brigadoon
 * Idle Hour
 * Cardinal Valley

This could really lend more depth to the political and demographic makeup of Lexington. - Team4Technologies (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I have noticed the same thing in other towns. I have been looking for an authoritative source of Lexington Neighborhoods. Currently I have the official street guide published by the Police, but it has every single subdivision, and thats amazingly too inclusive. In the spirit of Wiki, just start one with your beginings, and I am sure people will add. In the same publication there is alist of unincorporated settlements of Fayette County, which I intend to utilize for that page.--K3vin (talk) 22:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Raven Run Nature Sanctuary
Wanted to do a fact check on a recent edit and found various sizes among sources you'd expect to have their facts straight: claimed size:   source: 374 acres        Fayette County Public Schools Website 734 acres        Lexington–Fayette Urban County Government Website 3470 acres      University of Kentucky Website —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ancjr (talk • contribs) 07:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Within the last year or soRaven Run acquired additional land, and the school website mention was last updated in 2004. So it's probably the second one... --Starwed 06:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Kentucky
Should this article not be a part of it as well? Louisville is included, I believe Lexington should be as well. I would do it, but I'm new at it and don't want to make someone angry.Kyfan92 05:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just as Louisville is included, not directly, but through WP:Louisville, so Lexington is included through WP:WPBR Cmadler 15:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Wikiproject Kentucky was replaced with one that is more specific a while back.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 15:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that..I thought I saw that Louisville had a WP Kentucky tack on it a few days agoKyfan92 00:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. Had you done it, I would have ripped your tongue out and went apeshit on you :)  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 01:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

References?!?!?
...this article need them, bad. Anyone know of a good place to get some? I can to the W.T.Young Library at some point, they're bound to have a lot. A good website would nice for after-hours work though. -- John Reaves 03:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Suburbs
Does Lexington have suburbs? Heegoop, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess places like Nicholasville and Versailles are becoming suburbs due to southward and westward urban sprawl. - Team4Technologies (talk) 12:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Lexington refers to "the suburbs" but they generally are within the "city" limits which are actually the county limits, and refer to the nature of the development. Most cities think of suburbs as separately incorporated communites with a residential pattern of cul de sacs and. Certainly the surrounding towns with commuter patterns to Lexington, fit the general description of suburbs, but are more than likely evolving toward suburban status from small town status. presently there are miles of green space and farmland between most of Lexington's borders and the nearest neighboring town/suburb. Nicholasville is creeping north to their border with Lexington Fayette Urban County. The rest are a good twent minute drive.--K3vin (talk) 05:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What about areas like Pralltown, Little Texas, Landsdowne, Hartland, and other Neighborhoods that used to also have a lot of green area between it and metro-Lexington? Many were annexed in the LFUCG combo-meal, but does that invalidate their suburban status? - Team4Technologies (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

That would invalidate their suburban status. You see suburbs in the United States are considered seperate incorporated municipalities or unincorporated areas outside the central city and they lie in the same metropolitan area as the central city does. Heegoop, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So, like Athens? - Team4Technologies (talk) 00:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually Athens would not be considered a suburb because it is still considered part of Lexington. When the City and County governments merged, they incorporated everything withing Fayette Co. including Athens. If you look up the address of Athens Elementary School it is addressed as Lexington. In addition, there are a lot of areas in Lexington that have a suburbia-like feel to it, but are still considered part of Lexington. Cities like Frankfort, Georgetown, Paris, Versailles, and Richmond, could be considered as suburbs technically, but are not since Lexington has a suburban "buffer" around it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N@vi (talk • contribs) 03:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Water Fuel Museum
This closed in 2006, does anyone think it still belongs in the article? Guyonthesubway (talk) 19:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Nickname(s)
Nicknames for cities are governed by the ruling bodies of those cities. They are NOT simply what you feel like calling a place. Lexvegas, Lextown, Lawington, and other nonsense names should not be included in the Wiki Article as a Nickname. If you feel that it should, please write the City Council and make it legal. - Team4Technologies (talk) 05:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

adding new links
I added new links to this webpage. There are many other websites that should be here other than the official ones of Lexington. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graphicsdork (talk • contribs) 23:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The links added are construed to be advertising. Please see Wikipedia's policy on external links to advertising. - Team4Technologies (talk) 11:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Creating neighborhood pages
I've been creating a lot of pages for Lex's neighborhoods. City data.com has a good source page defining their boundaries and giving detailed statistics. We're up to 61 pages with probably as many left!

At the bottom of my userpage is a sandbox version of the Lexington template with all neighborhoods linked. Since there are so many for organization I'm separating them by South west, South east, and North.

Any input would be appreciated!

Censusdata (talk) 14:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You could check this post regarding neighborhoods in Lexington. Just sayin'. - Team4Technologies (talk) 19:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

As of tonight we're up to 69 neighborhood pages. This page has a pretty good list with maps and statistics, but it doesn't cover all of Lexington. The main problem is for areas were there are no neighborhood associations - mostly the area east of Clay Mills and south of New Circle, areas south of New Circle in SE Lex, and the ghetto areas of the northside.

I would like to add directional templates on each page when they're all finished, but getting finished is my current priority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neighborhoods_in_Lexington,_Kentucky

Censusdata (talk) 02:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Why not do one page for all of the neighborhoods in Lexington, similar to the list of Louisville neighborhoods, that way the notability of it is justified by the quantity provided? - Team4Technologies (talk) 02:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Louisville neighborhoods still have individual pages Auburndale, Louisville

Censusdata (talk) 13:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, but a good place to start would be a collective page, then branch from there. It will give you a solid foundation and make each individual page spawned less likely to be an orphaned page. - Team4Technologies (talk) 11:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

sister cities
The sister cities section states multiple times that there are four such cities, yet it lists five! Which part is incorrect? --70.198.69.71 (talk) 04:44, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Structure
Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 19:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

State-level politicians in "Government and politics" section
In "Government and politics", it seems that the coverage of the U.S. Senators and the Governor is unwarranted because this is covered in Kentucky. I don't see other city articles talking about state-level politicians. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:08, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of Lexington, Kentucky
What is missing from the city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 16:31, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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Lexington, Kentucky Demographics
Could Someone please update the Lexington, Kentucky Demographics section win information from the 2010 Census? It currently contains information from the 2000 census. I attempted to update it myself, but am not yet skilled in editing Wikipedia pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myke legend (talk • contribs) 18:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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