Talk:Lexington High School (Massachusetts)

Notable Alumni
[Eran Egozy] should be added — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.180.131.21 (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

LHS Senate
As a former student, i don't understand why this has such prominence in the article; i'm even more confused as to, when i posted something earlier that pointed out that many students see the senate as useless (once again, something i can certainly vouch for), it was removed. what happened to articulating both sides of the story? 76.21.210.67 07:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I (also a former student) am also not convinced that the senate needs to be mentioned. But saying that it's useless is expressing a point of view, which is discouraged at wikipedia (unless you have a reliable source which says that it is in fact useless). This isn't about "both sides of the story": the article never claims that the senate is useful, and so there's no need to present the opposing viewpoint that it's useless. Staecker 13:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The student-faculty senate is a part of the school's official governing structure, which is unusual and therefore notable. Certainly more interesting than the frickin' class schedule. There are many interesting things that could be said about the effectiveness of the senate, but they would all constitute original research. Which is forbidden. 67.165.142.252 (talk) 05:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes I agree. As a former student, I can say that the Senate is pretty unique and therefore notable. willboston (talk) 13:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Day of Silence
The Day of Silence section has absolutely no introduction. It just starts off with "There were also two protesters outside the school on the Day of Silence in 2005 who were never identified."

What does that mean? Someone needs to give context to the situation, if indeed the section should even be there. Dauthi (talk) 04:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC) NZsailor123 (talk) 13:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC) Totally agree. In fact, I believe the school doesn't need a "day of silence" section because it insinuates an agenda not so much factual representation of our school. I am a LHS former graduate and I have seen the controversy this day stirs up which gives me reason to believe that whoever posed that on the link cares more about the day of silence than the school...case and point, it needs to be deleted due to it's lack of relevance/context as you mentioned earlier.

I deleted it. How about we try and put down some non-partial factual information about the school itself before insinuating it's vastly far-left liberal hidden agenda. For example, the sports page i added, music? arts? test scores? etc.

Noteworthiness of current students
What are the guidelines for this? I don't know that winning $10k at WoW qualifies and I'm tempted to remove. willboston (talk) 22:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It totally qualifies. Any current student who had won 10,000 from any competitive activity (math, music, Intel, whatever) would qualify, don't you think? I can see a case for "noteworthiness of current students is not acceptable unless they deserve WP articles in their own right," but at anything short of that this qualifies. 67.165.142.252 (talk) 05:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well someone else took the section out and I must say I totally agree with them. Winning money at a video game contest is admirable but not encyclopedic.  I guess if there were articles about the person in reputable press or gaming web sites, that might change things some, but a quick Google search doesn't bring up any really noteworthy news sources. willboston (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Lex?
I don't know about others but I went to the annual debate tournament 4 years running and I never heard it called "Big Lex". Is that something new? --168.215.131.150 (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just graduated: from what I've heard from debate friends, Big Lex certainly exists, and is, like the name, pretty big. As one of the largest high school debate tournaments in the country, should be fine to stay in. LHefferman (talk) 04:01, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

History of LHS?
How is it that there's nothing about the history of the school? It'd be great to include info on how the school and its facilities have developed over the years. 2001:1948:212:5610:A4A9:412B:AC4D:DC82 (talk) 20:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Debate Team
I think that the section on the debate team is way too detailed. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a brag - o - pedia. For example, the section on novice achievements seems biased and over detailed. I think that the achievements of individual novice competitors are not enough to warrant mention, only significant varsity achievements at the national level should be important enough to be included. I'd love to hear others' thoughts on this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.169.213 (talk • contribs) 17:28, May 31, 2014‎
 * Agreed. The individuals are not notable and should not be mentioned by name per WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG
 * Can anyone source and date the statement Lexington High School's debate team has won the State Championship for the last 38 years. The closest I can come is a 2009 ref that says 33 years straight so we need a ref for wins in 2010-2014. Meters (talk) 00:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Ultimate Frisbee
We need a reliable source to show that this is a varsity sport, since the school's athletic page does not list ultimate Frisbee, and the addition of the sport has been challenged. Meters (talk) 04:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I'll do what I can to get the AD to put it on the page. Not sure what other proof would be acceptable. A picture of players holding their varsity letters? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrljdavid (talk • contribs) 04:02, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Would you like a picture of my Varsity letter Meters (talk)? Also if you look at that website it is not updated regularly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjoeqrnseung (talk • contribs) 04:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you added the nearly identical edit almost two years ago. The school athletic page has already been updated to show 2015 information, so I find it hard to believe that a varsity sport has been accidentally left off for that long. The Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association does not list ultimate Frisbee as one of its sports, so I think that this sport is a club sport, not a varsity sport. Meters (talk) 04:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm... competition between schools, but not included in the MIAA. I'm not sure what that makes it. Are there scheduled league games between schools or is it just one big tournament? Meters (talk) 05:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

YOU THINK. So it's your opinion, not established fact. Whatever. The 2015 updates were for sports schedules. It will be updated soon. Yes there are scheduled league games, and also multiple tournaments. No offense, but if you don't know what's going on, how does that qualify you to be the arbiter? - mrljdavid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrljdavid (talk • contribs) 19:41, January 23, 2015‎


 * Ultimate Frisbee is definitely not an "officially MIAA recognized sport" (see for example) but as the MIAA Board of Directors' minutes point out, it's not the only high school sport in that situation (rugby, crew, sailing, bowling, and boy's gymnastics are also listed as examples of not being MIAA recognized sports). It seems reasonable to accept such inter-school sports even if not recognized (i.e., regulated) by the state athletic board. Meters (talk) 06:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Please put up the fact that we won the State Championship in 2013 as well as the 2013 Northeasterns Championship. According to the page you asked me to read, it says specifically "National championships, when referenced, may also be listed." The USAU doesn't have youth Nationals, but four sub-Nationals, not as qualifiers to any nationals. This would be in lieu of a National championship, as it is as close as possible. Please include both results. - mrljdavid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrljdavid (talk • contribs) 19:41, January 23, 2015‎
 * That's why I told you to bring it up here, so we could get more eyes on this question. I have no problem with listing both championships if they are both noteworthy. I agree that the State title should be listed even though the sport is not recognized by the MIAA. My concern now is the regional title. Since it is an invitational tournament I'm not sure that it qualifies for inclusion. Looking for other editor's opinions. Meters (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The Masconomet Regional HS page has both listed. There's your precedent. Mrljdavid (talk) 02:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not about precedent, and whether some other article does or does not list something is not relevant. Next time please link to the page so I don't have to guess whether you are talking about a website or a Wikipedia article, and I don't have to search for the proper title.
 * I assume you mean Masconomet Regional High School. An addition of similar information to some other article made without any consensus about whether the information should be included means nothing. In fact, since the claims you refer to in that article are completely unsourced they could be challenged and removed. Once a consensus is reached here we can apply it to that article's content also. I note that Masconomet Regional High School makes a point of calling Ultimate a club sport rather than a varsity sport. That brings us back to one of the original points I raised, whether Ultimate Frisbee is a varsity sport. I said that I thought it was reasonable to include the sport, and calling it a club sport seems a good way to distinguish it from the MIAA sanctioned sports.
 * Still waiting for other editors' opinions. Meters (talk) 07:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's the page i listed, and quite frankly, if whoever cared for that page wanted to, they could get pretty much the same cites I got. The reason Masco's listed as club is BECAUSE THEIR AD WON'T GRANT THEM VARSITY STATUS. You refuse to comprehend that varsity status is not granted by the MIAA, but by schools themselves. I don't understand why. The AD will have her secretary update the page, and you'll realize that you've basically wasted both our time for no reason. Mrljdavid (talk) 18:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't care if it is a varsity sport or not. I've already agreed that the sport is worth including. Caliing it a club sport is just a nice way of clarifying the unusual situation that even though it is an interschool sport it is not sanctioned by the MIAA, the high school sport body (you may remember that the first editor who undid you asked for an MIAA source as a ref). Yelling at me for something I'm not making an issue isn't going to help resolve the current issue of whether a regional invitational tournament warrants inclusion in the article. Meters (talk) 18:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm not yelling. I'm frustrated. For the fifth time, the MIAA is IRRELEVANT. There's nothing unusual about the situation. I get a varsity coach salary. The kids get varsity letters. We are invited to the varsity athlete dinner. It's a respect thing. By not including us, it's disrespectful. Mrljdavid (talk) 19:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Using all caps is considered yelling. The MIAA is not irrelevant. It is the body that sanctions most high school sport in MA, but for the fourth time, I'm agreeing that ultimate Frisbee warrants being included in the article's list of sports. Calling it a club sport rather than a varsity sport is just a clarification, and is in line with what your own school does. Here's your school page that lists the ultimate Frisbee team as a club. Meters (talk) 19:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I know what cap use is. I'm middle aged, not a noob at life. I understand what you're saying, but I'm telling you, I think I know what our school does. The MIAA is IrRelEvAnt (see, not yelling...) to this discussion. Here's a good analogy. Haverford College has a Varsity Cricket team. It's not sanctioned as a NCAA sport, but to the college, it's at varsity sport status. Here's the website: http://www.haverfordathletics.com/landing/index  So when the website gets fixed, there you go. Please stop showing me my own school website. I'm more than aware of what it says (or pertinent to this, doesn't say). Soon it will. I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology. Mrljdavid (talk) 21:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * And whether your school calls it a varsity sport or not has nothing to with the issue of whether the regional invitational tournament is worth including. If you have something useful to say on that topic please add it. If not wait ofr other editors to comment. Meters (talk) 23:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I just want to make sure our earned awards receive proper acknowledgement on the schools webpage, please add/leave titles that our hard working team members have dedicated time to.Ldubs16 (talk) 02:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)Ldubs16 9:22 29 January 2015
 * The Wikipedia page is not your school's webpage. Talk to your school if you want the title mentioned on your school's page. This is Wikipedia, and we're discussing whether an invitational tournament warrants being listed. What school pupils, team members, and team coaches would like to see here is not relevant. Meters (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The school website is updated every few days, so I am skeptical that the athletic director "simply forgot" to include Ultimate as a varsity sport. The reason she "forgot": it's not a varsity sport. It is not recognized by the MIAA either. Thus, it is a club, not a varsity sport. Mrljdavid, you are now being contradicted by two reliable sources, so it is not appropriate to include Ultimate as a varsity sport. Period. 108.7.208.45 (talk) 15:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

So therefore Cheerleading should also be deleted as it's not an MIAA sport either? Also, there's no listing for Varsity Boys' Volleyball. The AD's Secretary hasn't updated the page and added it either. Mrljdavid (talk) 20:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Volleyball is listed as a varsity sport here, but I don't see a listing for a boy's team anywhere. Are you saying that there is such a team but it's also missing from the school webpage? If so, it's not our fault that your school webpage is out of date. If you can provide a reliable source to show that there is a boy's varsity volleyball team we'll be happy to add it the this article's list of the girl's volley teams. :Cheerleading does appear on the school page here and so it appears in this article. It's not called a varsity sport on the school page and it is not called a varsity sport on the Wikipedia page. It appears that the Wikipedia page lists cheer teams that don't appear on the school page. Feel free to challenge them if you like.
 * Ultimate Frisbee is different. It is explicitly listed on the school's page here as a club sport, but you insist that the Wikipedia page should list it as a varsity sport. The entry was fist challenged (by removal) almost two months ago, and there is still no ref to show that this is considered a varsity sport. I'm going to rewrite and reference the entry to reflect the school's classification of Ultimate Frisbee as a club sport. It can be changed back when and if the school updates their webpage. Meters (talk) 21:42, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's been a boys' volleyball team for two or three years now. I love our AD and her secretary, but the website thing isn't a priority. So when it is updated, everything will be hunky-dory. Great.....Mrljdavid (talk) 22:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Changes needed
Portables? New assistant principal? end of X block? Mrljdavid (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Portables: If the issue is significant enough to have received media coverage.
 * New assistant principal: Yes. Just update the infobox. No need to mention at length.
 * End of X block: No. There is far too much information already in that section that is not encyclopedic as it is of interest only to students at the school. Per WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG some of the existing material should be removed. Meters (talk) 21:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with The Musket
Not sure if notability of the school newspaper is high enough for it to have a separate article. Oeoi (talk) 04:03, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Principal change at LHS
Andrew Stephens, the current principal of LHS has accepted an offer to be the superintendent of the Lincoln-Sudbury school district. As such, Andrew Baker (the former associate principal of LHS) has taken up the interim position of principal.

I have updated the principal section accordingly. Also, I incorrectly wrote "Andrew Baker" instead of "Andrew Stephens" in my edit description, sorry if that was confusing. Waitblock (talk) 16:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As of today, the school's website https://www.lexingtonma.org/lhs/contact/ still lists Andrew Stephens. If Andrew Baker has already taken over as principal then provide a reliable source (and per consensus at the schools project we don't list interim principals in the infobox) Meters (talk) 03:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As a current student I can confirm Andrew Baker is in fact, the interim principal and therefore should not be listed Antonyjrinaldi (talk) 01:45, 16 November 2023 (UTC)