Talk:Leyla Aliyeva

NPOV tag added
I stumbled across this article after watching a show on CNBC that featured the Aliyeva family. This article sounds like a press release or a speech introduction. It essentially needs to be completely rewritten as something other than this woman's personal resume. ♣ ♦ SmartGuy ♥ ♠  (talk) 22:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

It is important to note the family connections between to many of the institutions cited. Only the opening section and "Heydar Aliyev Foundation" section have been edited today. Relevant references have been left but repeat sentences and information that is better read on the relevant page for the organisation concerned has been removed. Steffanaquarone (talk) 21:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

I too came to this article expecting something balanced. In light of her hosting eurovision and my hearing who she was the nepotism intruiged me. But no...its a press release — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.160.146.71 (talk) 04:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I believe it was another Leyla, though its what brought me here too. You might be looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla_Aliyeva_(presenter) Mwheatley1990 (talk) 19:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Poetry
I deleted the poetry section. It adds no value to the article. George Spurlin (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Legit sourcing
There's tons thats problematic with this article, not least of all the totally unnecessary pull quotes. I'm going to start by removing content sourced to news.az, a state run news source that lacks credibility, and place it here. Bangabandhu (talk) 03:27, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

The issues of ecology and environmental protection in Azerbaijan has traditionally given special attention. In this light, Leyla Aliyeva promotes large-scale projects on gardening in Absheron, forest conservation and rehabilitation, as well as for improvements in waste management and waste water, air quality and the protection of the Caspian Sea from pollution, improving the ecological situation in the oil-polluted territories in the Bay of Baku, the preservation of clean water and improving water quality, conservation and restoration of biological diversity, the development of infrastructure of national parks, etc. Aliyeva authored a successful blog at the Huffington Post's webpage, that generates significant reader interest on the topic of creating positive and sustainable environmental change.



As Rio+20 conference will be organized to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the historic United Nations Conference on Environment and Development held in 1992, a project "Mobilizing Azerbaijani Youth for Action in Preparation for the 'Rio+20' Summit in 2012" was initiated by the Heydar Aliyev Foundation and supported by UNDP, and was agreed upon and signed in Baku on 21 October 2011 by UN Resident Coordinator in Azerbaijan Fikrat Akcura and Vice-President of Heydar Aliyev Foundation Leyla Aliyeva.

Aliyeva is General Coordinator of Intercultural Dialogue for the Youth Forum for Dialogue and Cooperation of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (May 2008), and chair of the Azerbaijani Youth Organization of Russia (AYOR). She is the founder and editor-in-chief of Baku magazine. Russian-language version of Baku has been published in Russia since 2007. In October 2011, the first edition of the English-language version of Baku magazine has been launched in London. On 20 April 2012 Baku magazine was launched in Rome, Italy. Besides the United Kingdom the magazine will also be available in other countries, including France and the United States.

In 2012, she organized an exhibition called "Fly to Baku," showcasing works of 21 artists, including her own works. The exhibition was started in London, followed by another exhibition held on 12 April 2012 in Paris.

As the Founder and Director of the International Dialogue for Environmental Action (IDEA) global initiative, Leyla Aliyeva encourages young people to live in harmony with their environment, and writes articles on green issues, particularly those relating to the South Causasus.</ref

Recent edits
In line with WP:BOLD, WP:GF and WP:NPOV, I made the following edits on this Leyla Aliyeva:

International Dialogue for Environmental Action In July 2011, Aliyeva launched the International Dialogue for Environmental Action (IDEA), an international environmental NGO that works to promote awareness and education of environmental issues.

Awards and recognition
 * 2011 - Received the Key to Life award of the Children's Cancer and Blood Foundation(CCBF) in New York


 * 2012 - Received Special International Honorary Award for Environmental Protection at the 6th International Environmental Project Olympiad  (Inepo-Euroasia) held on April 6-7 in Baku

The edits above are factual and are clearly inline with WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.

I am sorry I didn't raise the issue on this talk page before going to ANI and BLP noticeboards. I don't really know the procedure. I am doing it now having heard from the admin on the ANI thread.

So, User:Thenightaway reverted the edits minutes after they were tagging them as "Puffery" and "COI". This is never puffery. Also, I don't have any COI issue on this. I only made a good faith edits in line with WP:BOLD.

A look at the history of the page reveals that User:Thenightaway has been in the habit of reverting  edits on the page. He prevents other editors from updating the page by reverting their edits. This is quite disheartening.

I am saddened about this. I believe User:Thenightaway's actions are not in line with wikipedia mission which allows good faith edits from all editors. I feel so bad about this to be sincere.

I don't want to engage in "Edit wars" with you User:Thenightaway. I want the edits to be re-added because they are inline with wikipedia guidelines.

I stand to be corrected if I am wrong. I don't know it wrong. Many other similar pages have "Awards and recognition" sections alongside other edits. Why can't this? The sources cited are clear WP:RS. Thanks.Phedhima (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * No, this is extraordinary levels of puffery sourced to non-rs. She can include this kind of fluff on her own website, but it is completely inappropriate for this website. Thenightaway (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay so IDEA is a non-notable organization. We even had the article on it deleted for being non-notable. If the organization isn't notable, then it's not notable or worth a mention on the person creating/in charge of that organization towards any form of notability. She hosting some non-notable talks and headed some non-notable boards for non-notable organizations. Ditto. As for the awards. An award given by an non-notable organization isn't notable. The award from the Children's Cancer and Blood Foundation, there is zero evidence this even happened. The only sources I've been able to find are trace back to the AZ state news agencies or her own personal website. Even the Children's Cancer and Blood Foundation doesn't have anything about it. Sources. A news report from the state owned news organization of the country run by your father that is renowned for not having any freedom of journalism is about as far from a reliable source as it's possible to get other than perhaps reading tea leaves. Canterbury Tail talk 21:40, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I believe that all the sources I cited to back up the edits meet WP:RS. These are well know news media in Azerbejan.    They are cited  in countless pages on En wiki and other wiki languages. None of them is blacklisted on En Wiki.

Here's a little analysis from my search on En wiki.

azernews.az https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=azernews.az&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1

aze.media https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=aze.media&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1

azertag.az https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=azertag.az&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1

en.trend.az https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=en.trend.az&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1

Here are the direct sources cited

https://aze.media/leyla-aliyeva-protecting-the-environment-is-vital/

https://www.azernews.az/nation/51816.html

https://azertag.az/en/xeber/Vice_President_of_Heydar_Aliyev_Foundation_to_be_awarded_by_Childrens_Cancer__amp_Blood_Foundation_in_New_York-284146

https://azertag.az/en/xeber/IDEA_campaign_founder_Leyla_Aliyeva_receives_Special_International_Honorary_Award_for_Environmental_Protection-222101

https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/society/2012679.html

can we analyse the sources above? are they not reliable to be used on En wiki? I really want to know. Similar sources are all over En wiki.. None of them is blacklisted.

With the above, I believe the edits made are in line with wiki guidelines. I am re-adding the edits temporarily in line with WP:BOLD.

It's on record that she founded the organisation. It's also on record she won those awards. These are never mere awards. They featured in the news.

Older editors are never here to intimate others by engaging in fierce reversions. We are not here to edit with bias or in anger. We can correct the other in a better way if there are valid reasons to do so.

Let other editors weigh in. Let's arrive at a consensus regarding this. I am more than willing to go by any decision the editors arrive at the end. If more BLP editors agree that the edits should be removed, then, the matter is resolved. I simply want to put an end to this. It will also serve for future reference.Phedhima (talk) 05:38, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Lets start with 1 item. This one "2011 - Received the Key to Life award of the Children's Cancer and Blood Foundation(CCBF)". Can you provide a reliable source that this happened, as the only source is the state news agency, even the CCBF doesn't have any releases or statements that it happened. Is there any source outside of Az state media, or a celebrity gossip site that just copied it, that this award was given. Even setting aside the fact that it's not a notable award. Canterbury Tail talk 12:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you User:Canterbury Tail for responding. Yes, the "Key of Life" award by CCBF actually happened. The CCBF released a press-release on this here

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20111012005097/en/Children%E2%80%99s-Cancer-Blood-Foundation-Breakthrough-Ball-Gala-Honoring-Leyla-Aliyeva-Muffie-Potter-Aston-and-Buddy-Valastro

Leyla Aliyeva was honored alongside Muffie Potter Aston, and Buddy Valastro in New York on November 1st, 2011.

The release summary and contacts are clearly stated on the Press:


 * The Children’s Cancer & Blood Foundation (CCBF) will host its annual “Breakthrough Ball” benefit gala on Tuesday evening, November 1st, 2011 at the Plaza Hotel in New York City
 * Release Versions was English
 * Contacts
 * Children’s Cancer & Blood Foundation
 * Jessica Schaefer, 212-553-4494
 * press@childrenscbf.org

That's staff of CCBF that wrote the press release.

Also this link has a clear picture of the award https://en.trend.az/azerbaijan/politics/1953133.html

You can see that the award is real and well covered in the media.

The lady has multiple awards but many of them are not in the media. I only picked the two awards because I saw sources backing them up. We can at least allow the most covered award to be on the page. One is even enough. It can be added directly under the "career" section without a separate sub section. Thanks Phedhima (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Literally anyone can pay a bunch of money to make an award, throw an event, and release a press release afterwards. Often the winners will brag about their awards, too. But that doesn't mean it belongs on Wikipedia. In most cases, content on Wikipedia should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Woodroar (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)