Talk:Leyte Gulf

Not notable alone
Leyte Gulf does not appear without battle in common usage. the only source in this article is about the battle. i suggest this editor self revert per WP:COMMONNAME. Darkstar1st (talk) 09:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The body of water is notable as per wikipedia five pillars. See WP:NGEO and WP:GAZ.--RioHondo (talk) 09:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * what specifically is notable about the gulf? Geographical features must be notable on their own merits. They cannot inherit the notability of organizations, people, or events. see  Darkstar1st (talk) 10:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * A gazetteer is what WP is, a geographical dictionary per WP:GAZ and WP:NGEO. In fact, i will be citing the Merriam Webster's geo dictionary. Please feel free to create articles on any natural feature on the planet, they are all inherently notable.--RioHondo (talk) 11:27, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * wp:gaz is an essay, not policy, so the relevant policy appears to be wp:NGEO, specifically the part in italics above. since the policy trumps the essay, and [wp:commonname]] is not disputed, i suggest you revert, or provide a source, preferably plural sources supporting your claim of notability. Darkstar1st (talk) 12:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * the reference you just added specifically mentions WW2 and the battle . i dont see how this establishes notability outside the battle? Darkstar1st (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The same way it is impossible to discuss Pearl Harbor without any mention of the Attack on Pearl Harbor that started the Pacific War as seen on the same geo dictionary page 911. But of course, we do know now that natural geographical features are notable by default with WP acting as a gazetteer. So it is only a matter of primarytopic for the geo titles. Obviously, the natural harbor is the primarytopic there, that's just common sense.-- RioHondo (talk) 14:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Pearl Harbor is mentioned in RS before the battle/War, not true of Leyte Gulf. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC suggest some tools in determination


 * 1. what links here, almost 100% WW2 articles.
 * 2. article traffic statistics Leyte Gulf 590 views in April 2015, compared to 14818 for Battle of Leyte Gulf
 * 3. web search(google) no mention of the gulf without battle. Darkstar1st (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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