Talk:Liar paradox in early Islamic tradition

paradox
Consider this declarative sentence: "This article is not about liar paradox". According to Naṣīr al-Dīn al-Ṭūsī, if this sentence is true, then it is false, and, if this sentence is false, then it is true, but if this sentence is true, it means that the subject falsely declares itself to be false, and, if this sentence is false, it means that what the subject declarers about itself, namely that this article is not about liar paradox, is true, which is absurd. So according to Ṭūsī this sentence is neither false nor true. Did I get it right :-)--Mbz1 (talk) 18:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This article makes my head hurt :-). I took a swing at copyediting, you might want to check to make sure I didn't accidentally change the meaning of any sentences. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! You've done a great job as usually. I actually was surprised that the article has been in a main space for 24 hours, and nobody complained about my English. Now I know why - the article makes everybody's head hurt :-)--Mbz1 (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * lol, that's a good strategy. I tried to format the refs a bit, hope I didn't mix up any of the citations there. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * To tell you the truth as much as I like to write articles as much I do not like to deal with references. I believe there's something wrong with the references now because, if you hit one, it's going nowhere. So it will be nice, if you are to take another look.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point, there is something wrong there–these things are so tricky. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:38, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

The Liar paradox in the Kalam's tradition
I've removed this section because it's inaccurate and doesn't describe a liar paradox as claimed. As I understand it, a liar paradox is when a statement being true would cause it to be false and vice versa. The given example is dissimilar to the liar paradox because it's logically perfectly capable of being true or false. This section is not about a liar paradox but about the question of how one defines a sentence which contains two separate clauses, one of which is true and the other false. Please feel free to explain if I've misunderstood. JRheic (talk) 20:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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