Talk:Libertarian Party (United States)

Consensus on Political Position
Alright guys, we need some consensus on what the position should be. It is more reliable and more easily understandable if we include one. I propose:

Syncretic

Fiscal: Right-wing

Social: Left-wing

I shall explain this: On economic issues the party is for lower spending and taxation. This would match fiscal conservatism. On social issues the party is for legalisation of anything immoral but not hurting other people. I would like to see further changes to this model and the eventual implementation of such similar. Petjayso (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)


 * i completely agree here. this should be added to the page. 67.7.10.76 (talk) 01:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Naw, actually is a right-wing libertarian party and currently supports departurism (the anti-abortion position) and anti-immigration politics (including enforcement of this through armed owners at the border).
 * The Libertarian Party is basically against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and any anti-discrimination laws, and it is ridiculous to consider it a leftist party. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 21:12, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

It's notably less right-wing than the Republican Party but still should probably be a center-right or maybe big tent political position because it does have some smaller center to center-left factions. TYMR (talk) 01:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * What would these center-left factions be? 93.38.68.62 (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It does have some small libertarian socialist factions. TYMR (talk) 14:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC) https://www.collegemedianetwork.com/libertarian-socialists-organize-online-within-the-libertarian-party/
 * The faction merged into DSA years ago. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Things are frequently more complicated than such simplistic labels. Curbon7 (talk) 20:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Where is the libertarian socialist fraction of the libertarian party?
Please give me sources otherwise I will have to delete it  Usydydjwhxyxhx (talk) 18:07, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It was deleted by consensus. Jayson (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Trump speech at the lp convention
even noticed in Germany:

https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/amerika/trump-us-wahlkampf-libertaere-parteitag-100.html Search&#39;n&#39;write (talk) 07:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Social liberalism
Most American sources that use "social liberalism" usually refer to social liberalism proper, not cultural liberalism. In any case, we use a source of questionable reliability. Honestly, the use of this term misleads the reader who thinks "social liberalism" is the center/center-left ideology that this party clearly does not support. 93.38.68.62 (talk) 21:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Seungri400 @Toa Nidhiki05 As I have already said "social liberalism" is a super-misleading term especially during the U.S. presidential election. How many sources published in the United States use "social liberalism" to mean "cultural liberalism"?
 * In addition, there is an obvious pov pushing (which has been going on for years) to try to make this right-wing party appear as leaning to the left. To be extraordinarily honest, it looks like a move to fool leftist voters.
 * Then, why do we use an authorless source on an archived page? 93.38.68.62 (talk) 09:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * "Social liberalism" links to "cultural liberalism" here, which is what that other term is called in American English. The phrase "social liberalism" has a very clear and distinct meaning in American english with no confusion - being liberal on social issues. There's no other context in which "social liberalism" is commonly used. Toa Nidhiki05 15:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Toa Nidhiki05 Come on, even the Mises Institute uses the term "social liberalism" to refer to the center-left ideology.
 * http://mises.org/online-book/critique-interventionism/social-liberalism/3-liberalism-and-social-liberalism 93.38.68.62 (talk) 16:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)