Talk:Liberty Leading the People

old stuff
according to this website:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/delacroix/liberte/

Delacroix is the man with the top hat on the left. Which is it? P0lyglut 20:33, 2004 Mar 23 (UTC)

There's another theory that Delacroix is actually the half-naked man on the bottom left, and that the painting is actually about his impotence (look at the man with the two guns).

Ayyu 13:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That theory takes considerable liberties with imagination. Wahkeenah 15:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Just so you'll know, I lived in France during most of 1978 and 1979. The 100 Franc bill depicting "Liberty" was in use at that time, so it dates well before 1994. (That particular note IS obviously from 1994.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.101.44 (talk) 21:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Usage?
You should add under 'usage' the cover art for Viva La Vida by Coldplay.--Flootures (talk) 14:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Man w/ Top Hat - Contradiction
This article contradicts the section about the painting in the article about Eugène Delacroix. That article states that the man with the top hat is a self-portrait of Delacroix, while this article states that historians have discredited that notion. Both claims are sourced. Please resolve. Cpryby (talk) 04:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've removed the claim for self-portraiture. JNW (talk) 05:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The woman... is not Marianne
The woman is not exactly the personnification of liberty, she is Marianne, the face of the French Republic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.60.45 (talk) 01:53, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I disagree, this person is definitely the personnification of liberty and absolutely not Marianne. Provide us with a reliable source for this allegation about Marianne. I couldn't find anyone in the various analysises of the painting I've read.

Measurements
The info box shows the size as 2.6m x 3.25m. The citation for the 1999 move to Tokyo shows the size as 2.99m x 3.62m. Would the discrepancy be due to the frame or is one incorrect? Goldnpuppy (talk) 22:39, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
 * On the flight to Tokyo the painting would presumably have traveled in its frame, giving the larger dimensions. Print sources I've checked confirm that the painting is 260 x 325. Ewulp (talk) 02:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Reception section
Is there some reason why this article has no 'Reception' section? There is no shortage of material from critics and journalists, such as The Guardian: Cry freedom: Jonathan Jones on how Delacroix captured the ecstasy of liberty (2 April 2005). I'd have imagined there would be a 'Contemporary' and a 'Modern' subsection to capture both what people thought at the time, and what has happened in critical thought about the painting since then. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Citation Needed
Regarding the Citation needed for the small tricolor; is verification needed that the building is the Notre Dame? Because the little flag is right there in the picture if you look at the biggest version. I might fix or remove this. Egmason (talk) 09:13, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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Toplessness
There is no discussion about Liberty being a tit show. Today, that would likely be overlooked, but what about the reaction at the time? The US statue of Liberty is not topless. Why not? There could be some interesting academic consideration of this topic.77Mike77 (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There are loads of depictions of Liberty (personification) and Marianne, but exposed breasts are indeed pretty rare. Other female personifications often have them though. That the figure is not supposed to be taken as a real individual alters the effect of the nudity. Johnbod (talk) 20:31, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Rigoberta Bondini and Eurovision
In Spain, one of the songs under consideration for the 2022 Eurovision song contest Ay Mama references this painting and asks (paraphrasing): why do our tits scare so many? There is talk that the lead singer will be exposing at least one breast in a sort of protest, asking us to [deeply] question why a woman's breast is censored while a man's isn't on Twitter, for example. All of this makes me question the analysis provided in this article as it makes very little mention of the exposed breast (and only in combination with the bare feet). How do women see this painting? What was the painter's motivation in showing her with a bare breast? Honest questions. 31.4.242.96 (talk) 23:49, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Good questions. Her name is Bandini from what I see, by the way. Looking at the picture again and thinking about your questions the question that popped in my mind was: If he can paint her with bare feet, why can't he paint her with bare breasts too? It all looks pretty natural to me, or at least that's the impression I think Delacroix might have been trying to propose in his painting. But then again, I am a male, and so my thoughts are not really what you seem to be looking for. Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 19:09, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Art
What can you say about the colors lines and harmony in the painting? 136.158.42.247 (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)