Talk:Library of Congress Subject Headings

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Link to French page
This page has a link to the page for RAMEAU on the French Wikipedia. I don't think that's appropriate. The systems are related, but they shouldn't be treated as the same thing. If there were a page about RAMEAU on the English WP, that would be linked to the French page, and vice versa. --JBH23 (talk) 05:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Indigenous studies

 * I propose that the first paragraph under the subheading "Indigenous studies" be removed in its entirety from this article.
 * The contributor of the paragraph evidently means to address Library of Congress Classification, but does not understand the distinction between LCC and LCSH, or between classification and subject headings in general. The intellectual content of the paragraph could be moved to the article Library of Congress Classification, but the text would need to be rewritten to remedy the confusion.  Every sentence of the paragraph either conflates LCSH and classification in the same breath; or addresses only classification; or names LCSH but cites only a source that addresses only LCC and not LCSH.
 * https://loc.gov/aba/publications/FreeLCSH/LCSH44-Main-intro.pdf
 * https://loc.gov/catdir/cpso/lcc.html

Monkeysoap (talk) 19:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Monkeysoap, this is a little more complex than the changes I normally help with, but I'll do my best to help. Give me a day or two to dive in a bit. --FeldBum (talk) 14:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Couple quick questions:
 * 1. Does https://journals.lib.washington.edu/index.php/nasko/article/view/15857 (cite #1) not discuss LCSH?
 * 2. Am I right that https://open.library.ubc.ca/soa/cIRcle/collections/ubclibraryandarchives/494/items/1.0103204 isn't about the US Library of Congress at all?
 * 3. This one is clearly LCC, so that makes sense to remove as well: https://www.jstor.org/stable/27949465
 * 4. Am I wrong that this (https://www.loc.gov/aba/cataloging/subject/indigenous.html) states that LSCH is planning on (or considering) changing the current "Indian" subject heading?
 * Forgive all my ignorance here. Just trying to help make these changes.
 * -- FeldBum (talk) 14:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi FeldBum, thanks for replying sooner than I had hoped! Taking your questions in order:
 * 1. Yes, it does! But it's not clear what the statement that source is cited to support is about, since the sentence speaks incoherently of "classification under LCSH". LCSH is not classification (in the library sense).  If the statement is meant to be about Library of Congress Classification it should be in that article, not this one.  If it's meant to be about subject headings, it shouldn't confuse them with classification.
 * 2. No, you're not entirely right about that. The full text of the cited source is centrally about a different subject heading vocabulary and classification scheme, developed at the University of British Columbia, but it discusses their relationship and comparison with LCSH and LCC respectively. HOWEVER, the substantive parts of the statements the source is cited to support discuss only LCC (in particular, class E) -- though they erroneously name "LCSH" instead.  These statements belong in the article Library of Congress Classification and/or Library classification, not in this article.
 * 3. I agree with you.
 * 4. No, I don't see that statement anywhere on the page you're linking to, which is much more generally about the process/project of updating subject headings for indigenous peoples. If I'm mistaken, can you point me more specifically to the relevant text? I know that the change you're describing (and the many changes to related headings it would entail) have long been discussed in the library community, and I believe it's on the table at the Library of Congress, but I'm unable at the moment to provide you with a reliable source for that.
 * Hope this helps, and thanks for YOUR help.
 * Monkeysoap (talk) 18:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)