Talk:Lien Chan

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I reworked the discussion of Lien Chan's sub ethnic identity. Until the ousting of Lee Tenghui from the KMT, people generally did not considered Lien Chan waishengren. Certainly until 2001, most waishenren didn't consider Lien Chan a waishengren and I don't think any of them now do.

I'm sure that people will raise the issue in 2004.--RR

As far as I know, Lien has been considered a "Waishengren" by birth and ideology, but hoped to change his image under the Lee administration to conform to the localization policies of Lee. Lien had always identified as a "mainlander" growing up and used this to his advantage in the KMT party while playing off his connections to Taiwan for political gain.

I feel uncomfortable about the term "sub-ethnic group" The ethnicity issue is sticky in Taiwan for reasons stated in the Taiwan History and Taiwan Aborigines section. When the KMT arrived in 1945, a Major was quoted as saying, " The Taiwanese are less than Chinese". Much of the perception of ethnicity on Taiwan has been distorted to reflect a single party's ideology. Are Taiwanese Chinese? I don't know and I think it is too early to tell. It may be that Taiwanese are as Chinese as Mexicans are Spanish. The facts are still being collected. The term "Waishengren is also going through a change as the citizens in Taiwan born in China are dying out and their children are mixing and gaining a Taiwanese identity. The term is now being used to demark one's ideology combined with ethnicity. The actual term "sheng" is being debated as Taiwan's legal status remains in limbo go back to the Treaty of Peace, 1951in which the ROC and PRC both lost their claims. If you go to the dop of the document you will see it is in accordance with the United Nations Charter.--218.170.8.72

Wasn't Lien's mother from the mainland? The makes him half-mainlander.--Jiang 07:04, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Confucius Peace Prize
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/12/china-challenges-nobel-with-confucius-peace-prize/1 the Confucius winner, Taiwanese politician Lien Chan, did not show in Beijing today.

Notable for Chan? Hcobb (talk) 04:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In my opinion no, but opinions may differ. --Nlu (talk) 08:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I added a section of the Confucius Peace Prize, since it's now been reported everywhere from The New York Times to the Taipei Times and Al Jazeera. == Pumpkin888 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pumpkin888 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's worth a whole section. A brief mention in the text would be more than adequate. It's not a major aspect of Lien's biography.87.231.185.157 (talk) 10:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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