Talk:Life imprisonment in England and Wales

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Who is the prisoner that is "thought to have been released on compassionate grounds"? Is it Al-Megrahi? If it is, we should make reference to him. H7dders (talk) 16:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It can't be: Al-Megrahi was subject to Scots law. Chuggsymalone 00:23, 10 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardhearnden (talk • contribs)

Life licence
I'd love to know what a life licence is and what it means, since life licence redirects here. ~  Pony  Toast ... §  03:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm planning a revision of this article, including adding detail about such concepts. I will post comments here once I have a draft. Muriosity (talk) 17:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Recent edits to this article
An anonymous editor keeps adding incorrect information to this article. Please be aware that the Home Secretary's proposal to have mandatory whole life orders for those who murder police officers is just a proposal, it has not been enacted into law. Also there is an absolute prohibition on imposing whole life terms on defendants under the age of 21, there is no exception based on maturity or anything else. Any further such edits will be treated as vandalism. Richard75 (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Homophobic and racist offences don't have a starting point of a whole life order either. Please see Schedule 21 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Richard75 (talk) 09:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Offenders under 21
The article states that instead of life imprisonment, an offender but fails to distinguish these terms from each other and from life imprisonment (except HM pleasure which is defined via a link to the article on the topic). What's the difference? "Imprisonment", "custody" and "detention" don't have obviously different meanings. Hairy Dude (talk) 03:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * between 18 and 21 gets custody for life
 * under 18 whose offence was murder gets detention during Her Majesty's pleasure
 * under 18 otherwise gets detention for life

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Related to USA
Is a whole life tariff the same as life without parole in the USA? If so, perhaps that could be added? Jhurley85 (talk) 12:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Effects of Brexit
The reference in the article to the possibility of the appeal of a Whole Life Order to the European Court of Human Rights would now seem to be obsolete, since the ECHR would no longer have any jurisdiction in regard to England and Wales, would it?2600:1004:B161:9AEA:0:45:5360:1601 (talk) 16:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This is incorrect, ECHR jurisdiction is independent from membership of the EU. The UK is one of the founders of the ECHR, and the only reason why it's considering withdrawal is to avoid being easily prosecuted for submissions relating to the Rwanda scheme.  Full article here: Mitsilegas, V., and Guild, E. (2024). The UK and the ECHR After Brexit: The Challenge of Immigration Control. European Convention on Human Rights Law Review (published online ahead of print 2024), Available From: Brill https://doi.org/10.1163/26663236-bja10079 92.18.4.188 (talk) 16:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)