Talk:Lila Tretikov

Stevie award
Removed this temporarily as this link gives only a Bronze award. Is it the right award? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Video / Spelling of name
I put in the video of the Wikimedia Metrics May 2014 as external link to youtube even though I know that there must be a Wikicommons version somewhere - but couldn't find it. I'm not too upset by that, as everybody can view the youtube version, but many people can't see our own versions of videos. If somebody finds our version, they should substitute it for the external video, but I'll ask that they also include the following link as part of the caption "YouTube version".

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 13:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * She pronounced her first name as "Ляля" there, and that word occurs more often than "Третиков(а)" (for which search engines suggest "Третьяков(а)"). --AVRS (talk) 16:56, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, her Russian name is a bit confusing. My guess is that she changed her name slightly when she arrived in America (this happens very often). Probably she understood that the horrible French transliteration in her Russian passport just didn't make any sense in America, and gave it her own simplified transliteration. I took "Ляля" (Lyalya) as a nickname - perfectly fine for the informal setting on the video, but inappropriate in a formal biography. Is Lyalya "short" for Olga or for Lila?  Lila, of course seems like a non-Russian name, but lots of Russians have non-Russian names even in Russia (just like many Americans have "non-American" names like Tanya or Andre). Tretikov rather than Tretyakov, seems more puzzling - but it is likely a simplified transliteration. I do believe she said Tretikova in the video.  Well, everybody has the right to be called by the name they choose (at least in America) - see World B. Free - and we shouldn't have any problem finding out the name she prefers, and can correct it then. BTW, my guess is that her middle initial is P. but that she doesn't use it professionally.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 21:53, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, as a Russian-speaking person, I find it very bizzare that she's changed her name and spelling so much from her original Russian name. Why does she use the male form of her last name in her American spelling? Ляля Третьякова should be properly transliterated as "Lyalya Tret'yakova". Anyhow, I made some research, and on this site, it says that her American name is pronounced as Laila Tretikov (Лайла Третиков), but that her birth name is Лилия — "Lilia". --Shandristhe azylean 10:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * site Vedomosti is a good representative source, but it is said in the article "As we can believe to a Wikipedia article, she was born in...". Though this article should not be treated as reliable. The-city-not-present (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Lead image
It could be my imagination, but I'm picking up what appears to be a distortion of her features in this image at 135 mm. I've replaced it with the portrait produced at 50 mm, which I think makes her look much better, more natural, and shows off her eyes. Viriditas (talk) 00:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I’ve restored this image for a second time. It is obviously superior, as the lens distortions are absent. Viriditas (talk) 03:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

RS required to verify Moscow university attendance
University attendance by a 13, 14, or 15 year-old is, to say the least, extremely unusual and surely requires a source stronger and more reliable than a PR puff piece from Ms. Tretikov's employer, whose information could easily have come from Ms.Tretikov herself. I can't find her in the WP List of Moscow State University people, and if she is indeed absent from the list perhaps it's because of the difficulty of finding reliable independent corroboration. Is she listed by the university itself as one of their alumni? If not, some other reliable source must be found for this extraordinary claim to remain in the BLP. My own brief search has found no such RS—and the information in the sources I did find appears to have been lifted from the BLP—but maybe someone else can find one. Writegeist (talk) 23:43, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Graduation is unusual at that age but attendance at classes may be less unusual as Universities often run short or non-degree courses or people can sit-in on courses even if of a young age. The article doesn't say she graduated. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And if that's the case the BLP should say "sat in on non-degree courses at..." or "attended, but did not graduate from,...", and RS is still required. Perhaps Ms. Tretikov can direct us to one or two. Writegeist (talk) 00:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll suggest deleting it unless we find a better source. I do believe the plain reading of our text must be a bit misleading. At about that time when the Soviet Union had just collapsed, there was a lot of confusion on who was doing what in the main MSU building, (was the university being run by the rector or by the faculties?  So there may have been some "attending" going on that didn't have much to do with the University - come to think of it I took a Russian Language course at a university building in 1994 and have no idea if "I attended MSU.")
 * But I'd guess that's not what was happening. Her father was a faculty member.  She may have informally attended some lectures. But the "real students" at MSU at that time were all in lock-step programs. So entering students would be assigned a specific group and they would be in all the same classes with the other members of this group for the next 3 years.  It just was not the usual way to take a few individual classes, or even to take a year off. I'd guess a short statement by Lila might have been mangled by a PR person who didn't understand the Russian higher ed system. No I can't give you references.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 01:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed it. If anybody has a better source, please put it back. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 01:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

listing all patents?
Would it not be simpler to say "a number of patents" and not list them all -- I can not find anyone else with such a list - and I fear most readers will find the list to be bafflegab at best. Collect (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Quite agree. (Great to see you taking an interest in the Tretikov article, incidentally.) And I note you swiftly made the edit. Noting also: it appears Tretikov is a co-patentee; in other words, a co-author of the applications. I think The Guardian made this distinction. Writegeist (talk) 23:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I think I got here by rather roundabout means - you will find me doing that sometimes. Just thought listing patents is peculiar here. Collect (talk) 00:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Voice sample promoted?
Not needed IMHO. Let us remove it. Zezen (talk) 08:42, 17 November 2019 (UTC)