Talk:Lilo & Stitch

Copyright
I really, really, really think this is copyrighted material. -- Zoe

Thinly reworded of.

I added that link as an external reference. With that, plus the rewording, I suspect we're ok. However, I'll try checking with the copyright owners to see if they want to raise an objection. Martin

I edited the page to remove the "Dean DuBlois said that ..." stuff -- it would be nice to have attributed quotes, but since the stuff they said is fairly generic and not direct quotes, I don't see a need to attribute it. I also removed some things which to me sounded questionable or didn't make much sense. I believe the article now is not just a copy of the copyrighted page linked above. Brian Kendig 05:07, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Some of the items listed as evidence of a Phantom Menace influence (like a Galactic Federation and hyperspace) long predate 1999 (and 1977 for that matter). George Lucas didn't invent science fiction. MK 06:21, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I fully agree. On the other hand Wikipedia does not have enough good articles on science fiction to make links to support these things and dropping names like Damon Knight, Poul Anderson and Harry Harrison is not enough. I was planning to start to "balance" that section by adding another one on parallels with Star Trek and then graduate to more classic written things, but it fell by the wayside. What were you thinking of doing? AlainV 22:43, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Ummm, writing that last note? Seriously, while I know enough science fiction history to recognize some errors in the article, I don't know enough to post the correct facts. I'd be more likely to just substitute my errors for the existing ones. I figured I'd call attention to the problem and hope someone better informed on the subject would come along and make the revisions. MK 03:56, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Parodies and references
Someone deleted the entire "Parodies and references" section without comment, which is being a bit overly bold. However, that section did have a lot of questionable info - notably the supposed Star Wars/Star Trek connections, which as as mentioned above involve elements that were well established in science fiction before Lucas and Roddenberry used them, or that are common dramatic conceits. I've deleted those sections and added the Miyazaki reference (admitted by Dean DeBlois). Ergative rlt 21:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

1985
Could someone fill in info about the whole '1985' thing? There's the "1985 concept sketch" of Stitch, but not a single shred of information on how it came to take 17 years to produce. Did it sit in an idea vault? Were there any scrapped official tries? Anything? I'd love to know =) --76.213.168.86 07:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Live Action Movie?
I read something in this article about a live action version that even named actors, but it had no referances. As far as I know, this isn't going to happen. If it is, a referance is greatly appreciated. Until then, I think it better that the unsourced information be removed sooner than later, so that in the likely chance it's wrong, people won't be misinformed. Ovni 18:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Parodies, References & Trivia
I moved this section further down the page because it was disrupting the flow of the article. It is also way too long, and Wikipedia clearly states that trivia sections are discouraged. If someone has time, I suggest reading Wikipedia's suggestions on how to trim down this section, or even remove it entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluffyblue (talk • contribs) 04:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * While I agree that the trivia section needs to be trimmed, I don't agree with removing it. At the very least the 4 trailers that parodies previous Disney films should be kept.   3:14, 25 June 2008 ( ~ )(UTC)


 * If I have time, I'll start taking the noteworthy trivia and integrating it into other parts of the article. 青い(Aoi) (talk) 00:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Box office
Perhaps a section on movie's profitability? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275847/business —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petzl (talk • contribs) 23:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Herbie
The Parodies and References section stated this:


 * In a scene when Stitch attacks Jumba with a car, the car is actually Herbie from the The Love Bug.

The car Stitch throws to Jumba is blue (Stitch actually says so), and everyone knows Herbie is yellow. I deleted it therefore. --Midasminus (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * ..."everyone" except those of us who know Herbie is white. Have you seen any of the movies? PacificBoy  08:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

41st or 42nd?
The introductory paragraph says it's both. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.53.107 (talk) 21:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Originally, it was the 41st. But, for some unknown reason, Disney decided Dinosaur should be in its canon, and all the films after it but before Chicken Little were pushed up by one. Georgia guy (talk) 23:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

introduction paragraph
"which ultimately went to another Daviegh Chase film Spirited Away." that sounds like he made or directed spirited away but i'm sure he was just in charge for the US adaption because japanese animation studio ghibli made the film. maybe someone can change that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.228.74.102 (talk) 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Daveigh Chase is the little girl who was the voice of Lilo. PacificBoy  08:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Info That Should Be Relocated or Removed

 * The song Disney used to advertise the film was Suspicious Minds, performed by Gareth Gates, who became famous on the UK TV program Pop Idol. Interesting information, but specific information like this probably should be removed from article's introduction. It's already mentioned under the advertising section, so removal from introduction is not too significant.


 * Coincidentally, Stitch can be said to vaguely resemble the spined aliens of the Critters series, which took place in Kansas, and also had a hunter dispatched to stop them. Speculative and probably not worth mentioning unless someone can provide a source that shows that this fact somehow influenced Stitch's character design.

Trivia
''I've removed the entire trivia section here. Trivia sections are discouraged by Wikipedia guidelines, see WP:TRIVIA.


 * Social worker Cobra Bubbles, formerly of the CIA, is modeled on the mysterious "Men in Black" (of urban legends and several hit movies) who work to prevent an alien takeover of Earth and to persuade humans that aliens do not exist.


 * The end of the movie features snapshots of the future "family" life of Stitch with Lilo and the others, each of them variations of classic images like famous Norman Rockwell illustrations.


 * Chris Sanders, one of the directors of the film, also served as co-screenwriter, co-character designer, and provided the voice of Stitch, a character he actually first created in 1985.


 * Earth is referred as being in Quadrant 17, Section 005, Area "51" in the Galactic charts, one of several references to Area 51.


 * During the introduction of Stitch to Lilo's room, he finds a book of "road maps of Iowa" which pokes fun at the idea that Iowa has enough road maps to fill a large book but when he pulls a page from it, it shows a global map with two islands and a large body of water.


 * The alien text that the Galactic Federation uses is known as "Tantalog" text and was designed for the film. The text can be downloaded and used in word processing programs.


 * When Lilo and Stitch walk past the store selling calendars with images from around the world, the "Orlando" calendar has a picture of the Magic Kingdom.


 * There are several "hidden Mickeys" in the film: one is visible on Jumba's platform in the Grand Council scene, another is a clothing logo on one of Lilo's photo subjects on her bedroom wall, and another is one of the gauges on the control panel of Gantu's ship.


 * Near the beginning of the film, during the trial, Stitch is asked by the Grand Councilwoman to provide some sign that he understands what's going on. He responds by licking the inside of his glass cage. The saliva trail is in the famous "D" shape in the Walt Disney logo.


 * After the trial as Jumba is taken into prison, you can hear the sound of a Probe Droid from The Empire Strikes Back.


 * The sign on Lilo's door is the Hawaiian word "kapu" that loosely translates as "keep out" and is also the Hawaiian version of the Tahitian word "Tabu"; more commonly known as "taboo."


 * All of the license plates in the film (VW, Nani's car, the gas tanker, the fire engine, and Cobra Bubbles' car) are A113, the same as the number on Mrs. Davis's license plate in Toy Story and Mater's plate number in Cars; it's also used in many other Disney and Pixar films. It refers to a room number at California Institute of the Arts where many of the animators at those two companies received their education.


 * The A113 license can also be seen during Stitch's reign of terror on his model of San Francisco.


 * When Stitch is attacking the city of San Francisco he made out of blocks, he parodies Godzilla.


 * The two hover car presents given to Lilo and Stitch make the same sounds as the flying cars in "The Jetsons".


 * According to Stitch's dog license at the shelter, the adoption official is "Susan Hegarty", the name of the actress who voiced the character. Also per the license, Lilo and Nani's last name is "Pelekai".


 * The words on Stitch's dog license at the shelter are part of a resolution thanking people for their support during the making of the film. The words are difficult to make out, but the last part reads, "as well as our partners at Disney MGM Studios for their participation and support during the making of Lilo and Stitch." The viewer can see a close-up of them during the last few lines in the scene where "Susan" stamps the Seal of the State of Hawaii on the cetificate of adoption.


 * In one scene, a pink jeep car can briefly be seen in the lower-left corner of the screen. This is a reference to the Elvis movie Blue Hawaii, in which he drove such a car.


 * Near the end, the tracking screen Captain Gantu uses to locate Stitch on Hawaii shows the icon for the Disney theme park in Florida, Epcot - Spaceship Earth.


 * Running gag: Every time Pleakley looks at or tries to show someone information about Earth, the device used is a "ViewMaster". ViewMasters create the illusion that the viewer is looking at a three-dimensional image, but it's actually created by each eye looking at slightly different pictures. The basic premise is that the person looking in it has two eyes to create the effect, but Pleakley is a one-eyed creature and therefore wouldn't see the 3-D effect. Adding to the gag is when he hands the ViewMaster to Dr. Jumba, a one-eyed alien handing a four-eyed alien a viewing device intended for two-eyed humans.


 * The grocery store where Nani tries to get a job is owned by a "Mrs. Hasegawa", a reference to the famous "Hasegawa's General Store" in the town of Hana on Maui.


 * After Stitch breaks the water gun apart, Cobra is shown looking disappointed, as a crowd of people run by in terror. The last two people to run by are cartoon versions of Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois- Chris is the one with blond hair and sunglasses, Dean is the big man with a beard.


 * In the subtitles for the Chinese version, a line spoken by Stitch in his alien language is translated into Chinese despite it having no corresponding English meaning. The reason for this is thought to be because Stitch's line sounded a lot like Ni Qu De (Go to your place), an offensive Chinese phrase used to tell somebody to go away. The actual Chinese translation was a lot more family-friendly. This line is placed at an earlier point than the first understandable dialog spoken by Stitch in the English version of the film.


 * The voice of Stitch was a difficult one to dub for other languages and that's why Dutch voice artist Bob van der Houven does the voice of Stitch in the Dutch, German, Flemish and Italian versions of the film.


 * When Jumba is ripping up the newspaper, some of the pictures look like past experiments: one next to the bed resembles Sprout (509), another Woops (600) and one looks like a white Loch Ness Monster.
 * After the scene where Lilo's house explodes and Stitch flies out of it, he comes out of the rubble with his spines and extra two arms protruding, but when Nani's legs rushes past him, his spines disappear and he has two arms instead of four. This could be because he quickly retracted them before she could see, and exploit him.


 * At the beginning of the film, the Grand Councilwoman seems not to know the Planet Earth (since she doesn't recognise it and doesn't know it's almost completely covered in water). However, in the end of the film, she claims she has already been on Earth in the Roswell incident, and she has met Cobra Bubbles.


 * The truck that Stitch steals to save Lilo from Gantu resembles the vehicle mode of the Transformers: Armada character Optimus Prime.


 * When Stitch throws Nani's VW Beetle at Jumba the horn goes on and it sounds like Herbie's horn as seen in The Love Bug.


 * In the scene just after Lilo has bought Stitch, Stitch is watching a part from the film Earth vs. The Spider (1958), shown on the televisions in an electronics shop. Deltasim (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Comparisons to Classic Disney
''I have removed this section from the article. Once again, there is a lot of interesting information in here, but much of it is speculative, not NPOV, or unverified. If citations can be provided, it would be an interesting addition to the article.


 * The Fox and the Hound, the beauty of nature and realities of life are present in both films, and both films don't really have a true villain. Case in point: Gantu was just doing his job, Amos Slade was just hunting for a fox. With Stitch leaving, you think, "Have a Seen This Before?" Answer: Yes, you have. It brings back true Disney because remember: Goodbye Seem Forever, Farwell is Like the End, But in my Heart's a Memory, and There You'll Always Be! (cry is now being heard all around the world)


 * Dumbo and The Ugly Duckling: As meantoned before, Stitch walking down the path with the ugly ducking book is from Disney's version of the famous wonderful Hans Christian Anderson story. This tone, along with the storyline of Stitch being an ugly ducking, equal great comparison. Also, items in the background of both Lilo and Nani's rooms reference other Disney films. Lilo has a stuffed Dumbo doll on her art easel, while Nani has a movie poster for Mulan on her wall. Additionally, a restaurant called "Mulan Wok" is visible during the scene where Stitch sees "Earth vs. the Spider" in a shop-window television. The directors had worked on Mulan.

The character of Lilo is obviously inspired by Dumbo. She is cute, like Dumbo, and is shunned upon because of her difference. When Lilo shows her doll to the other kids, this is similar how they react in fear to how the other elephants reacted in fear to Dumbo, and gasped as they heard about Dumbo's mother being locked up. Seeing Lilo be alone is just like Dumbo and Tod, and the Fox and the Hound may be one of the very most underrated films of ALL time.


 * Lady and the Tramp: When Stitch awakes at the dog pound, there are a number of dogs shaking in fear in the corner of his cell. They're the same dog breeds that Lady encounters in her trip to the dog pound in Lady and the Tramp (1955). Here, they don't know that Stitch is an alien, but they know he's not a dog. It could also be a reference to John Carpenter's "The Thing".

Once again, classic value is shown.


 * Not Disney, but still notable: Famous Japanese animator Hayao Miyazaki's film Kiki's Delivery Service is given a nod by the appearance of "Kiki's Coffee House". Another reference to Miyazaki's work is the scene following Stitch's crash-landing on Earth, reminiscent of the bus stop scene from My Neighbor Totoro.

When Nani pleeds that Lilo can stay with her, and Stitch watches silently, and hands Lilo her photo back, this is reminiscent of in Tototo, Satsuki is crying thinking their mom is dying, or already dead, Mei watches silently, and heads on to bring the corn to their mom.


 * Bambi: As previously meantined, silent scenes, and also childood innocence, life joy, danger, heart, comedy, ect.

Lilo & Stitch is an excellent Disney film, just like all of these mentioned films, and like The Fox and the Hound, is definitely underrated.

Spelling correction from "repectively" to "respectively" in paragraph 4, "Prodution" to "Production"

Done Celestra (talk) 13:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hang on are you calling Lilo & Stitch, Bambi, The Fox and the Hound, Lady and the Tramp, Dumbo

Lilo & Sdtitch 86% Bambi           91% The fox & the hound 69% Lady & the tramp 89% Dumbo 97%

What fool has or will underestimate that.

Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 13:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk)

Lilo & Stitch 3
Lilo & Stitch 3 is an upcoming computer-animated feature film presented by 20th Century Fox Feature Animation.


 * I would really love to see your source. BOVINEBOY 2008 21:30, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Who or what does “andie butlet” in the infobox refer to?
I’ve just fixed two minor errors in the infobox (a tag that hadn’t been closed properly, and correcting the name of David Ogden Stiers in the cast list; before it listed Ogden Stiers). Next to Tia Carrere is the phrase “andie butlet”. I don’t want to remove it in case it’s something useful, but consulting various cast lists, I can’t find a cast member who this name obviously corresponds to.

Is it a legitimate typo, and if so, what should it be, and if not, should we get rid of it?

Alexwlchan (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done It was a test edit by an anon IP, if we were to assume good faith. It's been taken care of now. -- McDoob  AU93  19:27, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Lilo & Stitch - Circle of Life
The song "Circle of Life" is not featured in Lilo & Stitch (2002), it was seen in The Lion King (1994). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 (talk) 00:32, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

UK 2-Disc DVD
A 2-disc special edition DVD of the film was released in the United Kingdom on August 22, 2005. --TheLennyGriffinFan1994 (talk) 01:39, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , it's unclear if you're proposing this information as an addition, or what. If so, you'll need to provide a reference. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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