Talk:Limenitis arthemis

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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jenniferra. Peer reviewers: Krecto176, CR.Tracy, J.Prakash2344.

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Article name
Before proposing a name change, I'd like to hear an expert opinion. Since the Red-spotted Purple is a sub-species of the White Admiral, should this article have the name White Admiral (North America)? There is already an article for White Admiral (Limenitis camilla), so a disambiguation page will be needed. Also, is there enough information to warrant separate articles for Red-spotted Purple and White Admiral (North America)? Don't want to have two stubs floating around out there! :) BTW, I am most familiar with the Arizona variety (arizonensis)  Notary137 22:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Taxobox image
Would it not make more sense to have the typical form illustrated in the taxobox, and the Red-spotted Purple in a section on variation/diversity/subspecies?—GRM (talk) 18:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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Range required
A referenced description of its range is required. AshLin (talk) 03:19, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

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Section headings
Just a note that on Wikipedia the standard way of writing section headings is in sentence case. That is, the first word is capitalized and subsequent words are not capitalized unless they include a proper noun. That's explained at MOS:HEADINGS in our Manual of Style. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨  03:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

thank you for pointing that out; I will fix it as soon as possible! I'm still a bit new to the wikipedia website.

Editing page
For this page, I had added some additional information about this butterfly. I have added, mating behaviors, genetic information, food, life history, taxonomy, and more. I have also edited some of the description portion that was already written. If there are any questions or conflicting opinions please comment Jenniferra (talk) 20:53, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Peer-Edit for Behavioral Ecology Class
I made a few edits on the section headings and subheadings so that they followed the sentence case format for Wikipedia. Additionally, there are several sentences in the entry that are missing citations. I was able to add references for those that had MLA in-text citations noted, but I am not sure where the information that lacked these parenthetical citations came from (“Overview,” “Description and identification,” “Distribution and habitat,” “Food Resources: Adults,” “Egg,” “Caterpillar,” “Pupa,” “Adult,” “Subspecies,” “Male-male behavior,” “Female-male behavior,” “Ecology”). I also added a complete reference list and a new "Literature" section to match the edits that were made. Upon collaborating the references, I noted that several sources are present in the "Literature" subsection that were not cited in the body of the article (Darby, Handfield, and Savela). Lastly, this species appears to be territorial, and it might be beneficial to note specific behaviors (perching, patrolling...) that might be applied in mating.

J.Prakash2344 (talk) 01:25, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Peer Review for Behavioral Ecology Class
Overall, the page has a lot of interesting information! There are a few mentions of territoriality, so it might be beneficial to add information on that subject. Additionally, the oviposition section states that females lay eggs on a certain area of the leaf. It could therefore be interesting to do more research and add a section on female host plant selection. I noticed the citations were changed from in text to footnotes, but there are a few instances where citations are missing. It is important to cite more, so readers can know where to look for more information.

I made a few changes to the page. I corrected a few grammatical errors in the article. I moved the In the popular culture section to be before the Image gallery in order to make it more visible. I also moved the information that adults were diurnal from the Ecology section to the Adult Life cycle section as I thought that was a better fit. Under the caterpillar section, there was text that looked to be a link to an image file that was repeated in the gallery section, so I removed that text. Because there were no hyperlinks on the page, I added a few links for some words. CR.Tracy (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Peer-Review for Behavioral Ecology Class
Overall, I really enjoyed the article! Most of all, I appreciated the wide variety of topics discussed; it was great to see a wide range of ideas discussed for this particular species of butterfly. As for my edits, I added several hyperlinks throughout the article, especially for words that I did not think an average reader would immediately recognize and know the meaning of (e.g. nominal species, dorsal/ventral, hybridization, deciduous, hibernaculum, etc). Towards the later half of the article, there were several consecutive paragraphs lacking hyperlinks so I added some here and there for ease of reading. Also, the standard way of writing section headings is in sentence case on Wikipedia (the first word is capitalized and subsequent words are not capitalized unless they include a proper noun). I edited your section and subsection headings to reflect these guidelines.

My suggestions for how to improve this article also include being more specific and intentional in the placement of citations (sometimes there would be one or two long paragraphs with all the citations listed at the very end; it would be nice to see how specific sentences or ideas correspond to a specific citation rather than a conglomeration of citations at the end. Lastly, the minor things I also changed included changing "group" to "ground" in an early paragraph in regards to how high up in altitude butterflies fly; in the future, I would also consider perhaps inserting a section on predation, both in terms of what the common predators are for this butterfly as well as any defense mechanisms this butterfly employs as protection, such as wing morphology or something of that sort. Overall, a really good article and I enjoyed reading and reviewing it! Krecto176 (talk) 02:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello again! Just an update about a few more edits that would make this an even better article. 1) the standard way of writing section headings is in sentence case on Wikipedia so I edited one section heading (Protective Coloration) to reflect these guidelines, 2) there could be better in-text citations after the sentence the sources correspond to as that will make it clearer to the reader what information came from which source, 3) there are still a few subsections lacking citations such as in the Mating and Life History sections so it would be great if those were added, 4) the subsections on male-male behavior and female-male behavior are very brief so it may be beneficial for the reader if these sections are expanded on, 5) the Batesian mimicry section is very detailed (which is great!) but it is a very large section so it may be useful to subdivide this section even further into different categories if possible. Overall, this was a really good article, and I hope my comments help to improve it! Krecto176 (talk) 04:32, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Peer Edits
I think that this article was very well cited and covered a great deal of information on the butterfly! I did make a few edits and wanted to put forth a few suggestions to help improve its scope. I corrected a few awkward sentences and edited punctuation (in the "Mate searching behavior," "Life cycle," and "Caterpillar" sections). In addition, I added a picture on the Limenitis arthemis larvae in order to illustrate that section of the "Life Cycle" material. As for suggestions, the last paragraph in the Lead Section may need to be cited as does the first paragraph in the "Description and identification" section. Also, there are many headings that add to the broad coverage of the article but don't have very much content to support them ("Food resources: Adults," "Life cycle: Pupa," "Male-male behavior," and "Male-female behavior"). J.Prakash2344 (talk) 00:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Comments for improvement
A section on the sensory biology of Limenitis could be added. What kind of visual system do they have? Adbriscoe (talk) 17:27, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Peer Review and Suggestions for Improvement
I really enjoy reading this article about Limenitis arthemis. The article is very informative in terms of knowledge wise and visualization wise. The third picture of L.a.astyanax on a pink flower is missing a figure legend; therefore, I do not quietly grasp what contribution the picture has to the overall article. When clicking on the picture, the legend states "L.arthemis Mississauga Ontario Canada". The picture can be relocated in the Distribution and Habitat section to show possible variation in appearance due to geography. One suggestion I have for the article is to include the ecological contribution(s) of this species. What roles do they play in the ecosystem? Are their roles similar or different from other butterfly species? Also, I think further clarification should be made regarding the "Male territoriality display" because this portion and the "Male-male behavior" in the Mating section both share the same information about fighting for 1-5 minutes. Does the defensive behavior only manifest during mating or at all times? If it is only during mating period, the two aforementioned sections can be combined. --Itsphuong (talk) 19:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Response to "Comments for improvement" and "Peer Review and Suggestions for Improvement"
Thank you for your suggestion! I have added a section on vision under a new section of sensory biology. Future edits can be made to add other sensory modules i.e. taste or smell under the same section. I have written a brief summary on vision, although it can definitely be expanded in the future to include more details, this is a preliminary addition.

Thank you for your comments, it was rather difficult to find the exact role of L.arthemis in their ecosystem specifically. I believe more research is needed in this area. However, the ecological contributions of L.arthemis have been studies their hybridization and mimicry, which I feel the article has done a good job of explaining. I have corrected the picture placement, it seems that the caption was misplaced. I also went into full detail about male-male behavior during mating where before there was only the sentence about have fighting lasts for 1-5 minutes. I feel that will make the section more comprehensive and less confusing. Thank you so much for your questions and suggestions.

Ssarnthi (talk) 10:14, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Needs Checking
Edits in 2017 by User:Jenniferra improved some things, but seriously scrambled the section on subspecies so that three out of the four subspecies had the wrong common name. I made a minimal fix for that, but I suspect there are more such errors that I won't have time to look for. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:05, 22 April 2022 (UTC)