Talk:Lin-Manuel Miranda/Archive 1

Untitled
Please add a link to the White House performance of the (awesome) "Alexander Hamilton rap". -- Mark S. Tuttle 71.141.244.204 (talk) 04:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

untitled
for awards add in that he won the hearts of teens all across america and around the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by P0ckh (talk • contribs) 05:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Wedding surprise song
Possibly relevant, but this is pretty cool: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KgZ4ZTTfKO8 Christopherlin (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

A question about this entry
It states that Mr. Miranda is now teaching history in St. Louis. I think somebody's making a joke -- I'd be very surprised if that were true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.161.56.192 (talk) 03:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Picture for infobox
Wouldn't it seriously improve this page if the picture in "Personal Life" were cropped and put in the infobox?-- Shibboleth ink (♔ ♕) 17:44, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

No other social media?
I suppose it's possible that this is a fake account, but he is active on the My Brother, My Brother, and Me podcast group. It appears to be legitimate, but not necessarily public.

Tony Award!
Please change Lin's Tony Award for best book from NOMINATED to WON.

Musicalmanifesto (talk) 01:54, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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 * Going to help you out. Here: www.tonyawards.com/en_US/nominees/winners.html &#123;&#123;SUBST:JackOfTrades1776&#125;&#125; (talk) 15:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2016
In the second paragraph of Early life, change Miranda worked on adding "freestyle rap ... bodegas, and salsa numbers."[6] to Miranda worked on adding "freestyle rap ... and salsa numbers."[6] The full quote from the reference is "I put in all the things I'd always wanted to see onstage: propulsive freestyle rap scenes outside of bodegas, salsa numbers that also revealed character and story." As it stands, the abridged quotation suggests that a bodega is a type of song, which it's not -- it's a small grocery store.

Jsbohannon (talk) 21:25, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you! --Neil N  talk to me 21:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Hamilton's America.
I watched Great Performances tonight on PBS. The episode is called Hamilton's America. It covers highlights of Hamilton's life, how Lin-Manuel Miranda found the biography by Ron Chernow, how it seized his imagination, and covers the 5-1/2 years it took for him to write and open the show. Insights by Miranda and other cast members are woven throughout. The thoughts of others are featured, including those of Chernow and Presidents Bush and Obama. Substantial segments from the major songs are included.

Since this documentary gives a lot of insight into Miranda's life and creative process, I think it will be useful for the authors here. Hamilton's America is available on PBS to view. The running time is 1:22:35; the webpage says that access expires 11/19/16. http://www.pbs.org/arts/pbs-arts-festival/2016/great-performances-hamiltons-america/ I'm sure that you will enjoy it.

Thank you for your attention, Wordreader (talk) 05:20, 22 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Just found another PBS page for Hamilton's America - http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/episodes/hamiltons-america/ This one doesn't mention an expiration date. Yours, Wordreader (talk) 06:12, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2016
Years active is incorrect, along with some grammar errors. BananaPeels1280 (talk) 16:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Edit request
Moana didn't win the golden globe so change from pending to nominated TheGamingR0BOT (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Edit request
Today (Jan 16th 2017) is Lin-Manuel Miranda's 37th birthday, so it should say '37' as his age instead of the currently appearing '36'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikisnice (talk • contribs) 08:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Content split proposal
An editor recently created List of awards and nominations received by Lin-Manuel Miranda, but it was poorly formatted and deleted. However, Miranda's list of awards is fairly significant; should it be split onto its own page? Primefac (talk) 14:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)


 * In answer to this proposal (although I did not see the mentioned previous awards article), I have created the article again with some awards that were not listed in this article and references to every award. I split them up into 'Film and television', 'Theatre' and 'Other awards' and sorted them in a way that I thought made sense; hopefully it is not considered "poorly formated". If you approve of the version I created, you can edit this page's awards section and link my article as a main article.  Felida97 (talk) 22:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks better than what I would have done. Nice job. I'll trim down this article appropriately. Primefac (talk) 22:15, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

This evaluation is for my class
Not every fact is referenced with a reference, but those that are have reliable sources such as news articles, government documents and Playbills. There are also plenty of links to other Wikipedia articles.While everything is mostly relevant, the story about Lin-Manuel’s ancestors being an interracial couple and running away from slave laws was a little distracting. I also think that the section labeled Personal Life contains very little information about Miranda’s personal life, and focuses a lot on his Professional song-writing and appearances. The article is very neutral and does not praise nor demean Miranda, it merely states facts. From the citations I skimmed, there is no plagiarism or close paraphrasing. The citations are written in more dramatic language while the wikiarticle is very too the point. The information is all up to date since Miranda is a relatively recent phenomenon. I would have liked to see more about his social activism in issues relating to Puerto Rico and feminism.Whitlesj3134 (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Discography updates
Please add the following recordings to Mr. Miranda's discography section:

2009 - West Side Story, revival cast recording (new Spanish-translated lyrics); 2012 - Bring It On: The Musical, original cast recording (as co-writer); 2012 - Merrily We Roll Along, Encores cast recording (as Charley Kringas)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2017
In the "Personal" section, please change "Fugure for Tinhorns" to "Fugue for Tinhorns" because "Fugure" is a misspelling. Thank you. 71.185.178.222 (talk) 02:39, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2017
Ayush412 (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: From what I can tell, you're requesting to add his child's name to the infobox in place of simple the number "1" as the article stands. Generally, this is only done if the offspring are independently notable, which his 2-3 y/o is not Cannolis (talk) 10:58, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2017
Add DuckTales (2017 TV series) as Fenton Crackshell-Cabrera / Gizmoduck to his television filmography, per the man himself. Maybe add it in prose form to "2016-Present" as well. 136.181.195.25 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✔️ Altamel (talk) 19:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Lead sentence
Following the guidelines at WP:BLPLEAD, a person should be described as reliable sources commonly describes him. Please show what reliable sources commonly describe Mirada as before reverting. Also, will the person who keeps on reverting, please at least edit so that the lead sentence and the info box are consistent. Thank you. LK (talk) 08:10, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

The Tony's have described him as an actor when they nominated him twice for the Tony Award for Best Actor in a Musical. A single Tony nomination is enough to prove notability for an actor. Also, his own website describes him as an actor. If that's not enough for you, just Google it and I'm sure that you'll find dozens of sources referring to him as an actor. JDDJS (talk) 10:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)



Do you have a source that calls him a playwright? JDDJS (talk) 14:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Another problem is that the version you keep reverting to calls him a "rapper". Did he win 2 tonys for being a rapper as well? And, the version you revert to is inconsistent between the lead sentence and the info box. At the least, you should edit that to fix it, not just keep reverting. The rule for BLPs is that contentious material should be not included unless it is supported by a reliable course. I find it highly unlikely that reliable sources regularly call him a rapper. Please support your contention that Miranda is commonly called a 'rapper' before reverting. Please also note that there is a brightline policy against reverting called the 3-revert rule. I believe you have already broken this rule. Please read WP:3RR.  I suggest you do not revert again. LK (talk) 15:15, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't claim to be innocent of edit warring, but you're just as guilty as me.

I know of no rule that the infobox and lead must be identical. Plenty of articles have different things listed in lead and infobox. JDDJS (talk) 15:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Very clearly, Miranda is an "actor", having acted in major works and having won major acting awards. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:58, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 100% support the notion that Miranda is an actor. Twice Tony nominated, and also about to star in a leading role in disneys new Mary Poppins.Mark E (talk) 19:00, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

We really should also say "singer", as he has numerous singing and recording credits for the shows and cast albums, Encores! concerts, Disney movie, Star Wars movie, TV appearances and others. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:18, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm not at all against including singer. Feel free to add it. JDDJS (talk) 10:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I think w may have to call for a RFC on this. Before we go further, I'd like to point out some things from the policy for the lead, WP:BLPLEAD.

The lead sentence should describe the person as he or she is commonly described in reliable sources. ... avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable ... In general, a position, activity, or role should not be included the lead paragraph if: a) the role is not otherwise discussed in the lead (per MOS:LEAD, don't tease the reader), b) the role is not significantly covered in the body of the article, or, c) the role is auxiliary to a main profession of the person (e.g. do not add "textbook writer", if the person is an academic).

If, after considering this, there is still support for adding singer to the lead sentence, let's call for an RFC. LK (talk) 19:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * From MOS:BLPLEAD: "The lead sentence should describe the person as he or she is commonly described in reliable sources. The notable position(s) or role(s) the person held should usually be stated in the opening paragraph. However, avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable". It does not say that it should only include roles described in reliable sources. It says include notable roles. Lin's singing career is notable on its own. Two albums he has sung extensively on have won Grammys (Hamilton and In the Heights) and three albums he has sung on have appeared in the top five of Billboard 200 (Mixtappe at #1, Hamilton at #3 and Moana at #2). And since you're so concerned with the wording that sources use to describe him, here's one that calls him a singer: . You can never have too many editors involved in a discussion, so feel free to start a RFC, but you're opposition to it being in the lead is ridiculous and not based in policy. JDDJS (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Do we have any reliable sources (not copied from Wikipedia) calling him a singer? As far as I can tell, he is credited as songwriter, and doesn't have a major role as a singer himself, on those albums that you speak of. If no source can be produced that refers to him as a singer, I'm removing the designation. LK (talk) 03:59, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's pretty clear that the cite used to support "singer" is to a not very reliable source that copied from Wikipedia itself. Again, if no reliable source is offered, I will remove "singer" soon, as it is unsupported by reliable sources. LK (talk) 05:04, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

What do reliable sources say?
I just did a search for "Lin-Manuel Miranda MacArthur Foundation" to see how reliable sources refer to him when covering the announcement of the MacArthur Foundation fellowship. Here are the top 10 results:
 * https://www.macfound.org/fellows/941/
 * http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-macarthur-genius-grants-2015-lin-manuel-miranda-20150928-story.html
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/arts/macarthur-genius-grant-winners-for-2015-are-announced.html
 * http://time.com/4053672/macarthur-genius-grant-2015-ta-nehisi-coates-lin-manuel-miranda/
 * http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6714440/hamilton-creator-lin-manuel-miranda-macarthur-genius-grant
 * http://deadline.com/2015/09/lin-manuel-miranda-macarthur-genius-grant-1201556646/
 * http://ew.com/article/2015/09/29/hamilton-lin-manuel-miranda-macarthur-genius-grant/
 * http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/lin-manuel-miranda-named-genius-grant-winner-n435611
 * http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/theater/ct-hamilton-kennedy-prize-for-drama-20160222-story.html
 * http://www.broadway.com/buzz/182236/hamiltons-lin-manuel-miranda-more-win-625000-macarthur-foundation-genius-grants/

The following are the terms used to refer to Miranda: Playwright, Writer, Creator, Author, Performer, Actor, Star, Composer, Lyricist. Note that none of the sources refers to him as "singer" or "rapper". LK (talk) 05:28, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Right now, you are the only editor who has ever had any problem with singer in the lead. If you have such an extreme problem with it in the lead, then you can go ahead and start an RFC. However, currently there is no consensus whatsoever to remove it from the lead, so until/unless a new consensus is formed to remove it, singer should remain in the lead. JDDJS (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I disagree with using "singer" to be honest. The curent version - "American composer, lyricist, playwright, and actor" covers the singing roles as his main notability for actually singing would be in his acting roles for hamilton and in the heights. Mark E (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to disagree, but that's not true: There is his singing on major soundtracks (Moana, Star Wars), two Encores! concerts, his singing for Sesame Street, singing on awards shows, and his single recordings, including "Love Make the World Go Round", in addition to his Broadway cast albums.  The MacArthur Foundation sources above are not relevant: they pre-date most of these singing credits. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I have to reluctantly concur with LK on this one. Under WP:NOR, WP never leads, it follows. Which means there is always going to be an annoying delay between a person's accomplishments and when they show up in reliable sources and in turn can be put on Wikipedia.  --Coolcaesar (talk) 15:21, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2017
Pleas remove the "Filming" note on Mary Poppins as filming has now been completed.

JoshMacleod (talk) 16:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have been unable to find any reliable sources that have updated the filming schedule. The most recent sources seem to be from this February announcing the beginning of principal photography.  If that process is complete, the project status should be changed to "In Production" or similar. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:59, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Name
Hi, I am doing a report on Lin-Manuel Miranda and this article is very,VERY helpful. But, for my paper I need to know the authors name to complete it, So I would appreciate it if you could tell me, but if you are uncomfortable telling that's fine I understand thank you though for reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.46.16 (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read Citing Wikipedia. Reach Out to the Truth 22:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 Sept 2017
Change second paragraph sentence "He hosted Saturday Night Live for the first time in 2016 and earned a his first Emmy award nomination for acting." in order to correct grammar structure and link to the correct page. It should read "He hosted Saturday Night Live for the first time in 2016 and earned his first Emmy award nomination for acting."

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2018
Please change: Lin-Manuel Miranda (/lɪn mænˈwɛl məˈrændə/; born January 16, 1980)[1] is a Puerto Rican composer, lyricist, playwright, rapper, and actor best known for creating and starring in the Broadway musicals In the Heights and Hamilton.

To: Lin-Manuel Miranda (/lɪn mænˈwɛl məˈrændə/; born January 16, 1980)[1] is an American composer, lyricist, playwright, rapper, and actor best known for creating and starring in the Broadway musicals In the Heights and Hamilton.

Tishagrana (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Baby miss fortune 16:26, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I've made this edit. The edit request simply reverts a recent change, and restores the consensus version of the lead. The change from "American" to "Puerto Rican" on December 3 (diff) was unsupported and unsourced. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

He is puerto rican CarlosPR5 (talk) 22:08, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * He was born in New York, and he is of about 3/4 Puerto Rican descent (with which he strongly identifies), and about 1/4 Mexican descent. The best brief description of that background is: American. It is completely accurate to say so in the lead, and to leave the more complex details for the body of the article. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 16:41, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Why not change it to Puerto Rican - American ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.72.30.1 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Why is editing unavailable?
I wanted to change "where the performances will run from January 11 through 27th"

to "where the performances were to run from January 11 through 27th"

since these performance are now past rather than future.

Simple tense correction.

Why is editing unavailable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.243.182.59 (talk) 06:19, 11 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi. This article is semi-protected, meaning that unregistered users cannot edit this page. Best regards, Lafayette  Baguette   talk   16:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2019
Add his appearance in Brooklynn 99 to the Film and TV section Kidupumpkin (talk) 23:47, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2019
In Early Life, cut "Miranda co-founded a hip hop comedy troupe called Freestyle Love Supreme." He did not form the group until 2003, the year after he graduated from Wesleyan. In Career 2002–10: In the Heights, add "In 2003, Mr. Miranda co-founded Freestyle Love Supreme, a hip-hop improv group that has toured the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, as well as the Aspen, Melbourne and Montreal Comedy Festivals. The group created a limited television series for Pivot in 2014 and will make its Broadway debut in a self-titled show in the fall of 2019." 38.88.9.70 (talk) 21:30, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 08:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Further evidence that Freestyle Love Supreme was founded in 2003. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1483:c4e1:88e8:e05:61:4f90 (talk)
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Request for this article to be semi-protected again.
Since Lin-Manuel Miranda has only become bigger as a celebrity, I think we should put it under semi-protection to promote compliance on the biography of living persons.

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Add “In the Heights: Finding Home” to Book section
“In the Heights: Finding Home” by Lin-Manuel Miranda, Quiara Alegría Hudes, and Jeremy Carter. Published June 2021 by Random House New York.

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2021
voice actor 2603:9001:1B08:EB73:B9B2:6430:B8C4:AEDB (talk) 02:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Page Preview
The Page Preview for Lin-Manuel-Miranda calls him "Captain Underpants" (when you hover over his name on a page that links to this one, e.g. Hamilton, or Bluey). While I did find it funny, I still wanted to correct it. But I can't figure out how to modify the page previews. Can someone please help with this? --HungryBison (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Adding hyperlink
Consider adding a hyperlink on Encanto in paragraph 3, so the reader can be re-direct to the Encanto Wikipedia page.Hyin28 (talk) 02:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Encanto is already hyperlinked in the first paragraph. We do not link something twice in the lead. Only the first mention gets the blue link.  ℛonherry  ☘  05:45, 18 February 2022 (UTC)