Talk:Lincolnshire, Illinois

Peer Review
Comment about the intro. It seems to place too large an emphasis on the major businesses in the area. Is Van Vlissingen so important to the town that it deserves to be in the second sentence. Maybe "Local Businesses" could be a separate sub-section down with "Education" and "Demographics". And, could the stuff in the intro about the high school go in the Education section, it reads a little too much like an advertisement. I would also like to see earlier mention of the fact that it is basically a suburb of Chicago. Generally a pretty good article though, definitely deserves better than start-class. maxsch (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Second look
As requested I took a second look at the article and have some more comments for improvement. While it is looking better, there is still room for improvement. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Article needs a copyedit to clean up language and polish prose - ask at WP:PRV for copyediting help. A few examples (not an exhaustive list):
 * Watch for unneeded words Lincolnshire is an affluent village in Lake County, Illinois, United States, and is considered to be a suburb of Chicago.
 * Multiple problems here - run on sentence to start Lincolnshire was incorporated on August 5, 1957 from land in the reputed Half Day area when land was purchased to build a residential subdivision, and gradually grew from conservative roots in the government to annex sizable portions of land in all directions, although it most notably lost a bid for the old Half Day area with neighboring Vernon Hills in 1994. "reputed" does not seem to be the proper word to use here, I think the township it was formed from should be mentioned, and the first use of Vernon Hills should be wikilinked.
 * Try for a more encyclopedic tone, for example A slew of people from Lincolnshire have made names for themselves. should probably be something more like "Lincolnshire has been the birthplace of or home to several notable residents."
 * Avoid short (one or two sentence) paragraphs, combine them or perhaps expand them - see especially Geography
 * Historical section - could there be some more information on Lake County history that could be used?
 * Many internet refs still need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. cite web and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V

Economy picture
I think that we could find a much better one. A fountain is not specific to Lincolnshire. We should have a picture of a office building, shopping center, or something like that. Tojo940 (talk) 03:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the fountain is located in a major Lincolnshire retail center, so I think it is sufficient. --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 16:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Reassessment and tips
I reassessed this as a C class for now, though with the suggested changes above it isn't far from B class IMHO. A couple tips follow:
 * I would put the history section first, before everything else.
 * I don't like notable people sections because they encourage random vandal additions. What I usually try to do is work the information into other sections. Often these work in the culture section, if you can manage sub sections such as "sports", "theater" etc. many of the notable people are famous for those reasons, the ones who aren't can be worked into other sections. Just my opinion, but we did it on Springfield, Illinois and it's worked out pretty well.

These are just a couple things, I can drop by again if you need it, Kranar hasn't been too active lately and I am just returning from a hiatus.--IvoShandor (talk) 04:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Copy edit

 * ✅ Copyedited by ukexpat (talk), a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 14:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Notes: Changes should be apparent from the diffs, but a couple of general comments. I removed some words and phrases that were either repetitious or unnecessary. I cleaned up some of the wording where it read as stilted, forced or unnatural. Added a lead in sentence to the table of office-holders and edited a couple of the headings to comply with MOS. In the Geography section there are some area units which should use the convert template - I have not made those changes. I also changed the References section to use the Reflist template in two columns. I realise that this change is only relevant to those viewing the article in Firefox, but it does shorten the References section for those readers. If you have any questions or comments, please leave them here or on my talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Copy edit comments
I've finally arrived. I will get to editing now, and I may make several comments here on this page. Much like a peer review. As I'm not familiar with the article, I will make some of my suggestions here. Editors who are more familiar may then follow up on my comments, and edit the article as such. Jor dan  Contribs  15:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Firstly, the lead section of the article is too long. I know that the lead section of the article needs to accurately summarize the article, but the lead of this article is too lengthly. Please follow guidelines at WP:LEAD. "The lead is for summarizing the rest of the article, and should not introduce new topics not discussed in the rest of the article."
 * Resolved...? I cut down on information, but the way I originally structured it, it is basically a compilation of a little bit of every single section. It remains structured in this manner. What are your thoughts? --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 20:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Secondly, this article may need to undergo summary style, where a series of appropriate subpages are used. Perhaps the article could be split into a number of subpages related to Lincolnshire?
 * Question What exactly do you mean by that? I don't follow. --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 20:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The sentence "The first non-Native Americans to arrive in Lake County were the French Jesuit explorers Father Jacques Marquette and Louis Jolliet, who sailed down the Des Plaines River and made contact with the local Potawatomi in the area; one of the Potawatomi villages that they encountered stretched along the west bank of the Des Plaines River from present-day Illinois Route 22 south to present-day Aptakisic Road, the first real settlement in the Lincolnshire and Half Day region." is too lengthly. It needs to be broken up into separate, yet understandable, sentences.
 * Update I put a period in to break up the sentence, which I think is sufficient. --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 16:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent. The sentence flows much better now. Jor  dan  Contribs  17:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You will need to remove some of the red links from the article, as per Wikipedia policy. There are just too many of them.
 * Update I removed several, and created stubs for WAES-FM and the Lincolnshire-Riverwoods Fire Protection District. However, I did not remove the links to the people mentioned in the History section as to encourage any positive additions to Wikipedia per WP:BOLD. --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 19:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Name
So how did it get the name Lincolnshire? It seems odd to name a village after an English county, rather than, say, a town or village. Or was a Mr Lincolnshire involved? 86.147.160.133 (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * To my knowledge, it seems like it was named after the English county, because if you look around, there's also Bannockburn, Illinois to the Bannockburn in Scotland and Millburn, Illinois (there is no link to the village yet, apparently, but it exists) to the Millburn in Scotland. The connection just seems so obvious, but it's only implied. --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 16:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah but Bannockburn and Milburn are only villages or small discrete areas in a city: Lincolnshire is a whole English county, so not comparable at all. I'll try to make an analogy -  in the scale of importance it'd be like naming a place after a US state.  Is there any history to say why it got the name? Usually settlers named places after cities, towns or villages 'back home' in the UK they were familiar with. 86.147.160.133 (talk) 00:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Famous People
Does Lincolnshire have any famous residents or former residents? 68.57.204.63 (talk) 04:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Economy section bias
I feel like the economy section of this article is written like it's a WikiVoyage page, not a Wikipedia article. It needs to sound much more neutral and include more sources. Meme Star27 (talk) 05:22, 8 September 2023 (UTC)