Talk:Linear castle

Conwy Castle
I don't understand how anybody could mistake Conwy for a concentric castle. Is it really "often cited" as such? Lordjim13 16:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, there are quite a few linear Crusader castles that are better examples than Krak (which is an almost perfect concentric castle). Margat, for example. Lordjim13 16:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Should have said Saone. Really only has one approach and they cut that huge ditch there to defend it.  The Crusaders really used geographical features well... Lordjim13 10:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think Krak began life as a linear. --Dweller 16:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I understand that point, but I don't think it's a particularly good example. And really, Caernarfon is an even worse example, because even though it's an elongated shape, there is no concentration of defenses along one front, and attackers would actually be able to assault a long stretch of the landward side (after they take the town defenses).  True linear castles (of which I can't think of that many) should really need to defend one approach.  I think Chateau Gaillard is a good example of this, with all its defenses pointed in one direction... Lordjim13 01:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Tagged as Inaccurate
What more needs to be said? The definition is completely wrong and has little utility therefore, as a encyclopedic article. As a bonus there are no citations in the article. CJ DUB 13:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Why do you think the definition is wrong? I am not familiar with the English terms, but from reading the article, the linear castle seems to be what is called Abschnittsburg in German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschnittsburg --83.236.209.216 20:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not rework it, cite it and get it accurate and factual?? Jeremy Bolwell (talk) 14:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The editor, CJ DUB, is a troll who does nothing but denigrate the works of others, while never contributing anything of note themselves. They are deletist in manner and thought. I have found this out attempting to improve the various castle articles in an honest and open manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.218.238 (talk) 13:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Spur castle?
There are no references, so the term "linear castle" looks dubious. Perhaps a better article would be "spur castle", as that is a widely used term with many examples.

The only author who uses the term "linear castle is Alan Titchmarsh in some tourism book. Perspicaris (talk) 13:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I couldn't agree more, so I've started a discussion concerning the deletion of this article at Articles for deletion/Linear castle. Nev1 (talk) 14:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, well. Once the WP:OR is removed, the article is no more than a WP:DICDEF of a poorly attested usage. But it got "rescued". Perspicaris (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

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