Talk:Linux Documentation Project

wiki
Glad to see this. As of September 2088, LDP is still alive a doing well, even building a wiki

Jdd (talk) 20:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikifying the Linux Documentation Project
I've seen some wikis for Linux. It got me wondering if anyone had considered turning the Linux Documenation Project into one big wiki ... use the HOWTOs as the foundation and let the masses do their additions and corrections. Any thoughts?

Yes. I have a thought: that's exactly why I looked up Linux and the LDP here. Perhaps the issue is quality? That said, it would seem to be an ideal wiki application particularly if 'static' versions checked for factual errors were also available. If the LDP don't want to host a wiki, a wikibook in Wikipedia might be a very useful thing. Wikipedia could port LDP documents into wiki format if they were able to get the permission of their principal authors (see here). This is their boilerplate licence (although variations will exist):

Copyright (c) 2000 by John Doe (change to your name)

''Please freely copy and distribute (sell or give away) this document in any format. It's requested that corrections and/or comments be fowarded to the document maintainer. You may create a derivative work and distribute it provided that you:'' ''1. Send your derivative work (in the most suitable format such as sgml) to the LDP (Linux Documentation Project) or the like for posting on the Internet. If not the LDP, then let the LDP know where it is available.''

''2. License the derivative work with this same license or use GPL. Include a copyright notice and at least a pointer to the license used.''

3. Give due credit to previous authors and major contributors.

If you're considering making a derived work other than a translation, it's requested that you discuss your plans with the current maintainer.

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State of wiki-discussions at TLDP
Wififying documents have been discussed for a while. One editable and commentable demo is now (2005) available. Also the Wikipedia was reviwed as an example for use at TLDP. The conclusion was negative.

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Is the project still active anywhere?
It appears like TLDP has gone silent.

Should this wiki page should be updated to reflect that?

It's April 2018, but the most recent update on the site appears to be Jan 2015.

The TLDP wiki page is only slightly better with the most recent changes being Jan 2016, but they were almost all SPAM fixes.

Trying to figure out what is going on, I searched around, and found that there were concerns about TLDP having grown stale years before all activity on the project seemed to halt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmkit (talk • contribs) 20:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * tldp.org/sorted_howtos_full.html indicates that these are the three most recent updates:
 * https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html on 2015-01-05 to v2.14
 * https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/index.html on 2014-05-15 to v0.66
 * https://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/index.html on 2013-09-22 to v6.6
 * So only two HowTos have been updated in the last ten years, and none have been updated in the last 8½ years.
 * Martin Kealey (talk) 12:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Completely gone
The domain tldp.org has gone completely offline now. The tldp.net one still exists but is a very old outdated one containing only a handful of pages. Interestingly though it has also disappeared from the mirrors. Aethalides (talk) 10:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Replying to my own note, tldp.org has long since come back online
 * Aethalides (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * https://wiki.tldp.org/ currently shows



Surge protection
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You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time.

Please make a short break reading the stuff you already got.

When you restart doing requests AFTER that, slow down or you might get locked out for a longer time!
 * }
 * Note that this is the first time I've hit the page in many months, so there's definitely a server-side problem.
 * Meanwhile https://wiki.tldp.net/ simply redirects to https://tldp.org/. From there are several links into the wiki, which fail of course.
 * Martin Kealey (talk) 11:55, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, now it's working again...
 * Martin Kealey (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, it's "working", but in read-only mode.
 * It's impossible to create an account because the CAPTCHA rejects both "P∙∙l" and "P∙∙l J∙∙∙s". (A confounding factor is that the ibiblio people page has changed since that CAPTCHA was created, but archive.org shows that the answer hasn't changed.) If nobody can edit the Wiki, then there's not much point. Martin Kealey (talk) 02:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

How-To redirect
The How-To redirect should reasonably point to Owner's manual or to a more appropriate page (maybe a new one needs to be created?) instead of this very specific Linux project.

An example is The Complete Manual of Suicide, in which the "How-To" genre redirects to the "Content" section of this page. MatMasIt (talk) 14:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Since How To is now a separate page, I've updated HOWTO to redirect there instead. Martin Kealey (talk) 01:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

"How to" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect How to and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. סשס Grimmchild.  He/him, probably  13:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)