Talk:Lion dance

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This article needs some pictures of the northern lion dance.

This article is mixing two topics into one. One sentence applies to the Northern lions and the next applies to the southern lions. The result is an article that is accurate for neither the northern nor southern variety. Some heavy copy editing and restructuring is needed. Kowloonese 23:16, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

OK, without adding or deleting or making major changes to the content, I restructured the article to use logical sections and grouped the information accordingly. I also activated links as available. 198.168.250.127 15:05, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I restored anon deletion of one and two dancer costumes, deleted without justification - can someone please justify this? Leonard G. 20:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

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OK WHO is spreading this stupid doctrine around? I found this when I clicked "edit" on references to OTHER Wiki articles. WHY was it in there? WHO put it there?

But most of all, who is spreading the ridiculous idea that "WikiPedia is not a collection of links?" I agree that WikiPedia shoud not be used for advertising, but WikiPedia is MOST DEFINITELY a "collection of links." The whole point of WikiPedia is that it's easy to cross-reference and link to relevant information. Linking to other Wiki articles should be a no-brainer, but placing external links to relevast sources is called CITING. If the link is relevant and it's not linking to some business, what the heck is wrong with putting links on Wiki articles?

I resent this stupid idea, and if I'm not going to be allowed to cite my sources, then I'd have to say WikiPedia is useless as a reference, and I'm through with it. How absolutely stupid. "Not a collection of links." Well what is it then? I'm sure it's full of "original research." What are we, a peer-reviewed journal now? We really should get rid of this idea. It's ridiculous and outrageous.KogeJoe (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

help please
hi, Can someone please let me know why the Lion dance is done Thank You in advance

Vietnam
Since other countries like Korea were mentioned, that Vietnam should be included in the article too.

The history of Vietnamese lion dance is almost as long as the Chinese one, nearly a millenium.. While it's obviously Chinese influenced it's also an important part of Vietnamese culture.

It was even chosen as one of the arts to represent Vietnam at the recent APEC held in Vietnam. I added a video link to this in the notes section of the article which you can also see here: viet lion dance.

Theyeahyeahyeahs 02:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

What I want to know is why a list of liondance troupes were totally deleted. Grrrrrrr(chaoji.org)

I can understand why the list of lion dance troupes were deleted; is this an article about the lion dance, or is this a plugging page for your favorite groups?

On Vietnam, Theyeahyeahyeahs, why don't you write something, post it and link to a relevant source? The beauty of WikiPedia is that anyone can edit it.KogeJoe (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

References needed
This article could really use some inline citations, especially for potentially controversial claims like "Nowadays, the businesses do not demand much from the performers, and it is easy money for the martial art schools" or "During the 1950s-60's, people who joined lion dance troupes were “gangster-like”" (both particularly odd with no reference to specific geographical location). - Jmabel | Talk 07:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Where does the Lion come from in ancient Chinese culture?: Celebrating with the Lion Dance
Copyrighted text removed. The link to the copyrighted newspaper article is here.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021006/spectrum/art.htm

[http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021006/spectrum/art.htm Where does the Lion come from in ancient Chinese culture? Celebrating with the Lion Dance by B. N. Goswamy, October 6, 2002, The Tribune Newspaper, Chandigarh, India]

Atulsnischal 10:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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how about the eye-opening ceremony of Lion dance?
Would like to know why do the lions need someone poking the eyes to start dancing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.55.63.2 (talk) 05:37, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Indonesian
The Indonesian Lion Dance is of a different tradition, and usually called by different names, so it should not be in this page. It is completely out of place in this page. Either they should be deleted, moved to another page, or a new page should be created for it. The text however can mention that in a line or two that they have a lion dance and then link to that page, alternatively it can be mentioned in a hatnote. Hzh (talk) 17:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree, based on the text of the current article, the Indonesian Lion Dance is a different thing that happens to have the same name. Therefore it should be split into another article and disambiguated accordingly. Rincewind42 (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm keeping it for the time being, if only to give the distinction between barongsai and barong. Hzh (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Qilin dance
Will the IP editor please stop adding Qilin dance to the history section? There is a complete absence of sources for its significance in the history of lion dance, what reference given has no relevance to lion dance. It is in any case a very minor form of dance, and does not merit any mention in the history section, let alone a whole paragraph, without proper academic sources that can link it to the development of lion dance. It is mentioned in the Regional Types section, and does not warrant much more unless there are good sources for it. This is not a Qilin dance page. Hzh (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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To add to article
To add to this article: explanation of what the character with the oversized boy's head symbolizes in the Chinese southern-style lion dance. Is it a monk? I can't believe this isn't already mentioned in this article, if this project aims to be encyclopedic. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's "Big Head Buddha", and it's mentioned under Vietnamese Lion in their version of lion dance which is largely the same as the Chinese one, although they use different names. It can also be added in the Chinese one, maybe under the Chinese New Years and festivals section where you can see the character in one of the photos. Strictly speaking "Big Head Buddha" is not specific to Lion Dance, it is a separate traditional character/dancer known from at least the Song dynasty that has become incorporated into some forms of Lion dance, and is not always present in all Southern Lion dances. Hzh (talk) 00:29, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Unsourced edits
Please note that verifiability is a policy of Wikipedia per WP:V, and edits that are unsourced can be removed. There is no source that indicates that Yutien Lion is the same as Taiwanese Lion or called Ming Shi, nor that it is particularly popular with the Taiwanese people apart from being a local lion dance. Please source the information, or they will be removed. Hzh (talk) 01:39, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Same issue with the Hakka lion, and various claim about Diting and Denglong, citation needed have been there for months, still no citation added. If anyone wants to add that information, please find a source first. Hzh (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Again, IP editor, please note that sources are required for content added. I can see no sources that say those mythical creatures are linked to lion dance, but provide sources if you have them, otherwise it is just original research. Hzh (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Lion Dance in popular culture
I would like to add a reference to the "In popular culture" section. How can I do this since the page is partially protected, I believe? MikeJanus.````
 * You can just leave the reference here, and if the source is fine, then someone else can add it in the article. Hzh (talk) 08:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to learn how to add it to the article myself. I've made edits to one or two other pages in the past, but it's been a while But anyhow, here is the addition to In popular culture under Lion Dance:

[New paragraph] In the 1976 musical, Pacific Overtures by Stephen Sondheim, the first act ends with a Japanese version of a lion dance by the Commodore Perry character, here used to express his feelings of success at having met with Japanese officials and opened Japan to trade for the first time in 250 years.

[Notes} Listed online in "The Sondheim Guide" under the musical numbers for "Pacific Overtures" The lion dance begins at 1 minute into this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daOHnwt-a4o MikeJanusMikeJanus (talk) 21:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You should be able to edit a semi-protected page after you have made a certain number of edits (ten I think, so you are almost there). I have added the info because it needed some adjustments - for example, the lion dance is specifically a kabuki version of the lion dance, not just a Japanese one, and the performance is a mixture. Also note that I have not used the YouTube link, the reason being that the copyright of the video is uncertain and should not be used per RSPYT. I used a book source instead. You should be able to make adjustment to the paragraph soon if you so wish. Hzh (talk) 21:20, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Lion dancing
Can you join lion dance for free as a 11 year old??? 2601:2C2:500:9420:B8FD:B140:E4E0:A31C (talk) 23:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC)