Talk:Lisbon Metro

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Network diagram
The subway network diagram image on this article is rather unfamiliar. I was thinking of asking permission to the Metropolitano de Lisboa to place their official diagram on the article. Any opposition?--Húsönd 18:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Unfamiliar or not, I think it would be wise to adjust it so that São Sebastião, Saldanha and Alameda are horizontally aligned, to allow for easily adding the connection that is on the works. -Rotring 11:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to get more pictures of stations and the exterior of the trains onto this article? It would make it slightly better. Paris456 20:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * i could take some pictures with my cellphone --AnYoNe! 15:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Network Diagram again
It shows the Oriente - Aeroporto expansion as being under construction, which is clearly not the case. --Jcmo (talk) 12:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Javitomad (...tell me...) 15:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I could try to change it.

It is actually under construction. At least half way in the districts of Olivais-Norte and Encarnação. There are metro construction sites there.

Joao (living in Lisbon) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.250.103.215 (talk) 13:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Language
I've tried to turn the first few paragraphs into proper English, but could anyone else help? Some sections have clearly been translated using an automated service; for instance, the continual use of 'seasons' for 'lines'. I got some out, but a whole lot more work needs to be done. --Ilja.nieuwland (talk) 09:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Some station names were translated into english, others were not. I disagree with the usage of automated translation systems, as it frequently introduces a lot of errors that remain hidden for more time than it would take to make a proper translation. In the "2000s" section, a station named "Maynooth" is mentioned, but I have no idea what station it refers to. Acarion (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The problem is bigger than just spelling mistakes, it's very complicated to make any sense of much of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaosampaio (talk • contribs) 15:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * As I read a paragraph and found some stuff that could easily be fixed (station names), I ended up rewriting some parts of the article, in the 1990s section.


 * At least part of this appears to have been automatically translated from the portuguese wikipedia article on Lisbon Metro. I say this because that's the only place where I've read about the claimed possibility of removing the trailer from the newest EMUs. But of course to be sure of this I'd have to do a deeper check between the english and portuguese articles (which I don't have time to do right now).


 * I guess if this is really the case, then we should add a translation template here, right? Nuno J. Silva (talk) 19:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just some notes on the rewriting:
 * The text already said Olivais and Cabo Ruivo (whose names were "automatically translated") opened later than the rest of the Red Line, so I changed the part that said the line was opened "with seven stations" and made that five. It still lacks a reference, but as the text already mentioned it, I think this way it's clearer. (If anyone is curious, I think there was an incident in the works and they had to postpone the opening, which was scheduled to happen along with the rest of the Red Line; but this is what I read, I don't think I've even travelled in the Red Line during 1998.)
 * The part about "replaced the tire" (wrt. ML95), although weird, was more or less easy to guess, and after checking with translate.google.com (the portuguese for "pneumatic" gets translated into "tire") it was obvious for me – ML90s are the oldest cars still in service today, and the most notorious difference between these and newer cars (other than the beige/orangeish inside (newer cars are blue)) is the loud sound that is heard when doors close (unlike newer cars where doors close in a much quieter way).Nuno J. Silva (talk) 19:54, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * After comparing both (portuguese and english) articles, and tracing some (all?) of the text to edits made by User:85.139.114.213 on 9th April 2010, I'm tagging this as a translation from the portuguese article as of that date. This does not solve the automatic translation issue, but should solve the copyright issue. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've edited the less clear / most MT-affected sections of the article, it should be more readable now. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 16:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Fantasy Map
The current map in the article seems to be a railfan fantasy map. The expansions go way beyond what is shown on the official site: http://www.metrolisboa.pt/default.aspx?tabid=95. Any refs? --Nricardo (talk) 05:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Both maps that were in the article on 15 November 2010,
 * Metro Lisboa with suburban railway lines.png, and Metro Lisboa Route Map.png
 * are largely based on the expansion plan announced on 2009. The only difference from that plan is the Rato-Alcântara expansion.
 * IIRC, the page you linked previously had a list of small expansion projects, and I think it included the Rato-Alcântara expansion on the yellow line, maybe that's why the author of the map chose to put that in the Yellow line instead of branching the Red line.
 * Now that page has a map based on the 2009 expansion plan. The only difference is that there is no Moscavide-Sacavém branch. It was included in the 2009 plan, and IIRC it was part of previous plans for the Red line.
 * The 2009 expansion plan:
 * page explaining the expansion plan
 * PDF with the expansion plan map
 * Some people see the official 2009 plan as a joke, because it introduces several branches and has several issues with Campo Grande (will require lots of rework (the current design does not allow the looping green line, and can only accomodate two lines) and will overload that station). (Also, see the 16th question at (in Portuguese))
 * But it's still an official plan. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 09:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * page explaining the expansion plan
 * PDF with the expansion plan map
 * Some people see the official 2009 plan as a joke, because it introduces several branches and has several issues with Campo Grande (will require lots of rework (the current design does not allow the looping green line, and can only accomodate two lines) and will overload that station). (Also, see the 16th question at (in Portuguese))
 * But it's still an official plan. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 09:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Some people see the official 2009 plan as a joke, because it introduces several branches and has several issues with Campo Grande (will require lots of rework (the current design does not allow the looping green line, and can only accomodate two lines) and will overload that station). (Also, see the 16th question at (in Portuguese))
 * But it's still an official plan. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 09:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But it's still an official plan. Nuno J. Silva (talk) 09:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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