Talk:Lise Meitner/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 04:43, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

This one's of decent length, I'll try to see if I can get through it in one chunk or not.


 * Lead
 * "She was praised by Albert Einstein as the "German Marie Curie" - Not in the body. It's cited in the lead, so it's not a major issue, but if it's important enough for the lead, it can get slung into the body somewhere as well.
 * ✅ Slotted it in down the bottom. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Link isotope, it's a touch technical.
 * ✅ Linked radioactive isotope. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Education
 * "Women were not allowed to attend public institutions of higher education in Vienna until 1897, and she completed her final year in 1892" - Her final year of what in 1892? Evidently not higher education, as that wasn't allowed until 5 years after she completed her last year.
 * ✅ added "of school". Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * " In July 1901 the girls sat and external examination at the Akademisches Gymnasium." - This just doesn't read right to me.
 * ✅ Deleted "d". Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Friedrich Wilhelm University
 * Rutherford was just linked at the very end of the previous section; I don't think it's really necessary to link him twice in three paragraphs.
 * ✅ Unlinked. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "Hahn the same age as herself " - Maybe this is an engvar thing, but I feel like there ought to be a "was" in there
 * ✅ There ought to be. Added. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * World War I
 * "Meanwhile, she completed the both work on the beta ray spectrum that she had begun before the war with Hahn and Baeyer, and her own study of the uranium decay chain" - Does the first "the" add anything to this? It doesn't in the variant of English I speak.
 * ✅ Should be "both the"  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "not only Hahn but most of the students, laboratory assistants and technicians had been called up, so Meitner had to" - Not everyone's gonna know that called up here means called to active military service
 * Suggestions welcome. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "In February, Meitner extracted 2 grams of silicon dioxide (SiO2) from 21 grams of pitchblende. She set 1.5 grams aside and added a tantalum pentafluoride (TaF5) carrier to the other 0.5 grams," - For this and the other weight measurements, use the convert template to provide conversions to ounces. I'm a reasonably well-educated American, and I have only a foggy idea of what an ounce generally amounts to
 * That's because there are multiple types of ounce. In this case, the conversion to US customary would be to drams. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "The export of uranium was forbidden due to wartime restrictions, but" - So by export, are you meaning export from Austria into Germany?
 * ✅ Yes. added "from Austria". Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Beta radiation
 * The caption of the image in this section names who all is in the front row, but there's one more person in the row than the sum of listed names + Meitner
 * Looks fine to me: Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "Women were granted the right of habilitation in Prussia in 1920" - Can we get a gloss for habilitation
 * Already linked above in the bit about Hahn. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "He physics section became larger," - Is this supposed to be "Her" or "The"?
 * ✅ Her. Corrected. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Escape from Germany
 * "He gave her a diamond ring he had inherited from his mother in case of emergency" - Is he Hahn or Rosbaud?
 * ✅ Hahn. Added. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Later life
 * "For her friends in Sweden, Siegbahn's obstruction of Meitner's Nobel Prize was the final straw" - it's mentioned that Swedish scientists stopped her from getting it, but not that Siegbahn specifically was involved


 * ✅ Added a bit more about this. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "The professorship fell through when the Ministry for Education, Tage Erlander, unexpectedly became the Prime Minister of Sweden, but Borelius and Klein ensured that she had the salary of a professor, if not the title" - it's unclear why Erlander becoming PM stopped her from getting the title
 * He was no longer the minister for Education. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * References
 * Ref 145 (book of members) isn't working for me, although it's a redirction error, not a 404, so it may just be on my end or a temporary outage
 * ✅ Restored from archive. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ref 151 (Hahn PDF) is dead
 * ✅ Updated the link. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rhodes appears to have something off in the subscription required parameter
 * ✅ The spam link should not be overriding the wiki-link. Removed. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Worldcat gives an OCLC for Yruma
 * ✅ Added. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Infobox
 * All three of her doctoral students are only mentioned there and need cited
 * Commented them out for the moment. Will have to look them up.
 * Ditto for the other students
 * You list Exner as her advisor, but wasn't Benndorf involved, too?
 * ✅ Yes, Added. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You say she was an Austrian citizen until 1949, but didn't she lose it in 1938?
 * She became a German citizen. But Meitner never claimed German citizenship, and travelled on her Austrian passport. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

That's it from me. Hog Farm Bacon 00:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I think this one meets the GA criteria as is. I also think it's pretty close to the A-Class requirements, although I'd have some additional comments at that level, mostly in the way of the commented-out students and a bit of prose polishing.  Good work.  Passing. Hog Farm Bacon 01:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)