Talk:List of 11th-century religious leaders



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The result was to merge.

Merger proposal
I propose that these lists be be merged.
 * Merge List of religious leaders in 1072 into List of 11th-century religious leaders
 * All of the content in these can be (and already is) contained in the destination with much less total text. In fact the destination is barely any longer than the longest sub-page; yet the destination has all the years of the sub-page. This has already been done with the 20th- and 21st-century lists of religious leaders. There are three important reasons to do this.
 * 1. This page can be better maintained with less work. Since religious leaders typically change infrequently (less often than political leaders) it is very difficult to maintain each sub-page, and they are not maintained. (At best) when a leader dies the death date is put in a succeeding leader is added. Editors should go back and change the 10 or 20 year pages since the leader came to office from "Pope Joe, Bishop of Klingon (1995–present)" to "1995–2013", but no one ever does this.
 * 2. More content can be maintained with more completeness and with less or the same amount of work. Even in this last 12 year period (it is typically worse for 20th-century religious leaders) the list get longer over time as more religions and sub-groups are added from year to year. Again, no one wants to go back and add leaders for every year since the groups started. Groups are added to the current year and that is it. I personal might have done all the back creation that have ever been done for these 13 pages.
 * 3 A system of religious leaders by century allows finding leaders even when only the century (but not the years) that the leader served. If I want to find the name of Pope John Paul I I can find it much faster on List of 20th-century religious leaders than on List of religious leaders in 1978. tahc chat 02:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I might hesitantly support this as this is a very early era. Although List of state leaders in 1072 exists and isn't merged to anything.--T. Anthony (talk) 10:28, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Support unhesitatingly. A century list is more natural than a list for a single year with no reason indicated why that year is more important than all the other years of the century.  Esoglou (talk) 17:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


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