Talk:List of 2014 FIFA World Cup controversies

Luis Suárez
All the material after the first paragraph is well written and well supported with sources. I'm sure it should be included somewhere. But is it really relevant to the 2014 World Cup? or (especially) to this particular match? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:40, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I cut it down to the two prior biting incidents. His handball against Mansfield is irrelevant, especially as his handball against Ghana was more widely reported. Including all of Suarez's misdemeanours in various fields may well end with how he didn't take a book back to the library one time or the other &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 11:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Nice pic of teeth, btw. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh no! A possible hole, sorry loophole

Decisions
Some of these are just decisions which losing managers would have been angry with, and would happen at least in every week of league football due to human nature. The awarding of penalties is always controversial, due to the "did he get the ball, trailing foot, got more of the man, followed through" nature of them. These clearly aren't in the same bracket as mass protest of spending on the tournament or the firestorms towards Nishimura and Suarez &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 11:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed, if it were up to me it would be just those things, stadium breaches, worker protests and perhaps even streakers, but not "his foot stuck out". If a country wins the world cup through a "controversy" which was the referee's decision, nobody will care about it in four years anymore, they were the winners. KarstenO (talk) 06:26, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Safety
This article is severely lacking in this department. Eight deaths of workers and a fire during construction, and the makeshift bannister at the Maracana.  VEO one five 21:43, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Diving
For me diving in football weakens the game. I like the Dutch team but that was pathetic. The smallest of boot content, and then dive. Messi would have kept his feet and kicked the goal. I know that many people accept diving, but really its pathetic.

Thepigdog (talk) 09:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * This is not the place to discuss the actual events. KarstenO (talk) 23:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Robben incident
I think the Robben incident should be elaborated. While he did say as it says in the article, he wasn't referring to the foul inside of the box earlier on, which he stated should have also been a penalty, but he was talking about a dive he made outside of the box, which would not have had much of an impact on the game in his opinion. He states this in a Dutch interview here: http://nos.nl/wk2014/video/668681-robben-eerlijkheid-duurt-het-langst.html

I believe it's only view-able from Holland, and I can't find any different version internationally for it. It should be taken into consideration, nonetheless. KarstenO (talk) 23:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Nigeria vs France
Tried to add Nigeria vs France, but the filter on this site rejects my article. Posting it below and please let me know what errors I have made:

France vs Nigeria
After the Round of 16 match between Mexico and the Netherlands, the referee Mark Geiger was accused by a host of Nigerian players, most notably Ogenyi Onazi, John Obi Mikel and Peter Odemwingie, as well as by the Nigerian coach Stephen Keshi of bias towards the French. The referee was criticised for several calls throughout the game. This included a goal by striker Emmanuel Emenike being cancelled for offside (although television replays suggest this may have been the correct decision); no red card for an apparent attempt by Olivier Giroud to elbow Nigerian midfielder Mikel, no penalty being called against Patrice Evra for holding Odemwingie during a corner, a general lack of protection from the referee from persistent rough play and, most notably, only a yellow card being issued for a studs-in tackle by Blaise Matuidi, which resulted in a forced substitution of midfielder Ogenyi Onazi. Several commentators noted that the decisions significantly impacted the match, especially the forced substitution of Onazi, which changed the complexion of the game, depriving Nigeria of its most influential midfielder.

Jon Stakes (talk) 23:49, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Uruguay vs Italy
There should be a mention about Marchisio's red card.
 * [Unsigned comment, added by User:87.7.159.90 at 11:49, 4 July 2014]


 * This report describes is as "one of the more shocking moments of the 2014 World Cup thus far": . Martinevans123 (talk) 15:43, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Brazil vs Colombia
There should be a mention on what happened in this game with all the fouls Carlos Velasco Carballo allowed without carding people, the match is already mentioned on his wiki page, It has been quite an issue since it happened, especially since Neymar was knocked out of the tournament as a result of what was going on in the match. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reeves92 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Tim Krul intimidation
"Did Holland’s goalkeeper Tim Krul go too far with his intimidation tactics?":. But seems to be not a lot of coverage, apart from this Guardian report, across the net. Although this source describes the actual substitution as "controversial":  Martinevans123 (talk) 15:38, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Greece - Ivory Coast
This is what I don't like in wikipedia. It accepts and propagates any opinion, as long as it is written by someone somewhere, especially in the case of newspapers, magazines and their internet counterparts. The problem is, that a lot of times reporters can be intentionally or unintentionally very biased. But wikipedia accepts their 'expert' opinion. It means I could very well become a reporter myself (it's not that difficult), write whatever nonsense comes to mind, and then post it on wikipedia, which will accept it, since it has a valid reference. I think one should verify the bias especially of articles before updating anything in this encyclopaedia.

In the case of this match, it is very easily verifiable by anyone who watched the match that the article is biased. No controversy arised from this penalty. To justify this, I cite two passages from this article that anyone can easily see that they are not true, just by watching the game: "However, Greece, who offered little as an attacking threat in the second half, were given an opportunity to grab the winner when referee Christian Lescano pointed to the spot, despite Ivorian protests."

Greece had at least one shot that hit the bar (I think it was two, but I might be mistaken) in the second half, so they didn't offer little as an attacking threat; but this can be debatable. The bolded part above though certainly isn't. There were no Ivorian protests after the call. Everyone knew it was correct.

"They were unhappy that Samaras, who kicked the turf, had fallen to the ground, [...]"

There are plenty of videos online that show that Samaras didn't kick the turf, he was clumsily tripped by the Ivorian defender.

These two simple examples show the bias of the article, and as such, its ineligibilty to be referenced in a serious encyclopaedia like wikipedia. I propose the removal of this section, since it is only based on that article.

That a controversy exists inside a certain individual's mind and nowhere else doesn't mean that everyone should know about this. This propagates wrong facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.43.181.57 (talk) 01:01, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Cameroon - Croatia
This match should be listed as well, especially with Wilson Raj Perumal predicting the red card and the 4:0 scoreline. The red card was given after a ridiculous foul from the back, an obvious attempt to get a red card. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/01/fifa-cameroon-match-fixing-claims-world-cup-2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.218.186 (talk) 17:34, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Schumacher-Battiston Volumen 2
Nothing, the title say everything, and the FIFA do it again--186.62.152.183 (talk) 22:11, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you intend here? But the foul by Sergio Agüero on Bastian Schwiensteiger, surely a red-card offence, went wholly unnoticed: Was that a punch or a gouge? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Brazil vs. Netherlands
In addition to what is in the current section, it is worth noting that the penalty awarded to Netherlands was not such since a slow-motion replay revealed that the foul had been committed outside the penalty area and that Robben managed to carry on and fall into it obtaining the penalty for NED. Still, considering the red card that was not given, these two things balance each out somewhat. T.W. (talk) 19:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Argentina
There are a pair of controversies in Argentina about the World Cup, but I'm not sure if they should be included.

The first one, as all the other soccer associations, the authorities of the AFA received a number of free tickets for the players' families, the authorities themselves and such. They were filmed reselling some of those tickets at the hotel. And, far from denying it, they confirmed it, but claimed that there was no crime because they sold the tickets at the official price. Problem is, we only have their word for it: there are no records of the sale (it was made with cash), and it was not done inside a regular and supervised system, nor the tickets announced as being on sale in some public manner, as in a webpage (if they were not filmed, nobody would have ever known about this). Still, it is a bit "political" and does not involve the players or matches themselves.

The second one was when the people in Buenos Aires gathered around the Obelisco to welcome the players when they returned to the country. Although they lost the final, Argentina had not got that far in a World Cup since 1990; so people was happy with the players anyway. But then, a number of vandals began to loot the place and the nearby shops; the players refused to show up there because they felt it was not secure. The police intervened too late, and then there was a conflict between the national government and the Buenos Aires government, each one blaming the other for the disaster. There were almost 120 detained vandals... and they were all freed in a matter of hours, because of the relaxed laws, which also proved controversial. Still, it is not something taking place in Brazil, so I'm not sure if it counts as a World Cup controversy. Cambalachero (talk) 16:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Nigeria vs Bosnia
I deleted a paragraph about Enyeama's celebration with the referee. As far as the controversy about the dissallowed goal is sound the entire Enyeama-referee incident is purely fan fiction.

Enyeama is known to be a very amicable person and is known to be friendly towards referees outside of footballing situations. At the same World Cup he was filmed joking with referees that they must stop giving Messi freekicks, so that Nigeria has a chance to win. After winning the African Cup of Nations he attempted to piggy back the referee. And so on.

The fact that someone decides to chit chat and have a laugh with the referee after a game is not controversial. Maybe unique, but not controversial, especially given Enyeama's track record. I can understand if someone wanted to note that Bosnia fans made an internet protest based on this, but equally it should be noted that Enyeama is renowned for being friendly towards referees. Jon Stakes (talk) 12:38, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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