Talk:List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters/Archive 2

Performers
This has been brought up before, but if this is a book-centric list, why are we noting actors from the TV series (which has its own character list)? I also feel as though converting each section to table format would be a better use of space. The only issue would be how to best present the coats of arms.— TAnthonyTalk 15:01, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Below is how I envision the sections as tables (the color is only for clarity on this talk page). I've removed the TV series performers on purpose, per my comment above. Note that characters unique to this list (like Benjen and Lyanna) can still be anchored as redirect destinations.— TAnthonyTalk 04:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

House Stark is one of the Great Houses of the Seven Kingdoms and the principal house of the North. Its seat is at Winterfell, one of the oldest castles in the Seven Kingdoms. Its coat of arms displays a grey direwolf running on a white field, and its words are Winter is Coming. Bastards born to North men are given the surname "Snow". House Stark had ruled as the Kings in the North for thousands of years until House Targaryen conquered Westeros, whereafter the Starks are the Lords of Winterfell and Wardens of the North. For prizing honor and devotion to duty, House Stark is the closest of the noble houses to heroism. Over the course of the novels, the Starks are scattered by the War of the Five Kings, and the fate of the House remains uncertain, as most characters believe that all the legitimate Stark sons are dead.
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Aegon Targaryen
The article says

"Tyrion meets Aegon, who intends to marry Daenerys and unite their claims, and persuades him to attack Westeros now rather than going to Daenerys in Slaver's Bay. In A Dance with Dragons, he and his army land in the Stormlands and capture several castles, and plans to lay siege to the Baratheon seat of Storm's End."

The character described here is Young Griff, who claims to be Aegon. But is it established in the books that this is in fact the case? Seems to me it’s still ambiguous whether he is truly Aegon or just a pretender. Should this be clarified in the article? — Dodiad (talk) 07:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

House Mormont
I've recently come across a page dedicated to House Mormont, the family on Bear Island and one of the noble families in the North. It seems to be disconnected from the other Song of Ice and Fire pages and doesn't seems to be disassociated from other pages in the series. Rather than leaving the House Mormont page disconnected and orphaned, would it be better to merge it with this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark knight 2013 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm just going to redirect that to here. There's no attempt at establishing notability, and the page is unwarranted. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  18:23, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Shae and the Kettlebacks
I was thinking of adding Shae, as she serves as part of Tyrion's arch in the first three books, particularly A Storm of Swords. Additionally, I was thinking of adding the Kettlebacks, who serve as henchmen to Cersei and are later responsible for her downfall in A Feast for Crows. The section could be written in the same vein as the Sand Snakes', only adjusted for the brothers. Any objections? Dark knight 2013 (talk) 00:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Family trees are not visible in mobile version
Hi, does anybody knows why the family trees of the Houses are not visible in the mobile version? And is it wanted like this? --W like wiki good to know 21:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

"I'd fuck her" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Move discussion in progress
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Dunk and egg are part of a song of ice and fire now?
When did this character appear in A Song of Ice and Fire? I see you added this character back in. I think you have mistaken anything by GRRM for A Song of Ice and Fire Bear skello (talk) 06:43, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have gone ahead and removed this. I haven't read the books in several months, but have never encountered this character in this series. I know they have their own non song of ice and fire series where they feature as a main character, and this information is probably better off there A song of ice and fire should have been a trilogy (talk) 14:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The character still originated from the ASOIAF novels, though only by mentions instead of appearances, but that still makes him an ASOIAF character. And I don't understand why you're saying that we're "mixing" franchises. The Hedge Knight is still the same franchise. There's also a couple of other characters from The Tales of Dunk and Egg, so Duncan isn't the only one. I don't see any reason to remove him. IronMaximus (talk) 06:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Could you add some sources? I'm pretty sure those other editors are correct. He isn't a character, there may be a passing mention, but an unsourced paragraph seems... Undue. 73.6.77.46 (talk) 04:35, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * In fact, I'm going to be bold and just remove this like the other editors have done. Please don't add this back without a reference from a reliable source. He doesn't have a line in the books, doesn't interact with the plot in the books, and none of the characters in the book are more than vaguely aware of the name existing. He isn't a character in the book anymore than Tyrions dead ex fiance, who was important (but not a character either) Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of facts. 73.6.77.46 (talk) 04:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

"Viserys" listed at Redirects for discussion
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