Talk:List of Adventure Time episodes/Archive 2

Vandal
I think the new user User:iluvzune is another clone of Ruin Cireela. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZUNeLova (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, the above comment was left by a sock puppet of Ruin Cireela. Iluvzune is also a sock of said user. nhjm449 (talk) 06:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Desciption
Do you think we should have a new desciption for What is Life? Maybe mention something about the ice king. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.105.234 (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, the above comment was left by Ruin Cireela. nhjm449 (talk) 06:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Birthday!
When Wedding Bells Thaw came out on my birthday! Happy birthday to me! - FinnTime! —Preceding unsigned comment added by FinnTime! (talk • contribs) 14:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Again
Ruin Cireela is back with a new account someone stop him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.198.152 (talk) 01:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's clear that Sites2Sea and Not cool man WINOX are both sockpuppets of Ruin Cireela. Both accounts were created within three minutes of each other, have only edited this page, and exhibit the same, immature behavior characteristic of the banned account. With this said, I'd prefer to focus on the content of the page rather than the issues with the people working on it. As long as people make constructive edits, I don't care who's responsible. Nicklegends (talk) 03:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I am not Ruin Cireela. Please trust me. I don't vandalize. Ban Not cool man WINOS (RUIN CIREELA) NOT ME

See ya clown. Banned 4ever. BUT DON'T BAN ME PLAEASE. :)

How about the NEW EPISODE way.
Do you think we should have the lines spaced out? Not Cool Man WINOX (Talk) 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, Ruin Cireela. As I've stated before in the talk page as well as a recent edit summary, having the lines spaced out visually groups the two halves of each episode together. Nicklegends (talk) 02:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But no other episode guide on wikipedia spaces out the lines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Not cool man WINOX (talk • contribs) 14:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

List in Production Order
This is a list of Adventure Time episodes in Production order. I put the list on the Article, but the article would be changed. Please don't delete this talk heading. I worked all the time to do this.

- Sincerely, Mario324 (talk)


 * I appreciate the effort, but what are the benefits of this new format? To me, the order seems the least intuitive out of the options (original premiere, official pairings, etc.). 129.65.227.168 (talk) 11:18, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, please check it again. I set it in production order. You can change the article in to the half hour parings. I don't care. Mario324 (talk) 08:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Season 2

 * The episodes are wrong they go like this


 * Episode 1: Slumber Party Panic/Trouble in Lumpy Space
 * Episode 2: Prisoners of Love/Tree Trunks
 * Episode 3: The Enchiridion!/The Jiggler
 * Episode 4: Ricardio the Heart Guy/Business Time
 * Episode 5: My Two Favorite People/Memories of Boom Boom Mountain
 * Episode 6: Wizard/Evicted!
 * Episode 7: City of Thieves/The Witch's Garden
 * Episode 8: What is Life?/Ocean of Fear
 * Episode 9: When Wedding Bells Thaw/Dungeon
 * Episode 10: The Duke/Freak City
 * Episode 11: Donny/Henchman


 * the rest are correct. - 98.165.140.193 (talk) 03:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh Look a Fanboy. o_o


 * You were right that is the parring of the episodes but it is just in production order. Thanks anyways - Mario324 (talk) 16:54, 14 April 2011

This article has problems
As the page stands now, there are major errors. Seasons 1 and 2 seem to have been merged together, and the viewership numbers for most of the season 2 episodes seem to be completely incorrect. --Cornprone (talk) 21:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Why oh why...
... are the episodes listed as #xa and #xb? Since the "parts" are aired separately and each "half" has its own plot, it woul make sense to count them as separate episodes. If there is a reason why it's as it is, please give it in the epilogue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.177.94.224 (talk) 20:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The reason is that each segment is always paired with another particular segment when the show airs in half-hour reruns. The episodes were never intended to be split up into two, but Cartoon Network wanted to capitalize on the show's success. The problem with the current page presentation is that the a and b episodes don't correspond to the repeat episode pairings. They had been that way way back when I was editing the article regularly, but I no longer have enough patience to correct people twenty-four hours a day. 129.65.227.168 (talk) 18:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Airing schedule
Do we have any proof that the current order is what is going to be for season 3? 16:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Note in EP 26b
"26b 	"Mortal Recoil" 	May 2, 2011 (2011-05-02) 	1002-052 	—

Part 2 of the season finale. The spirit of the Lich King possesses Princess Bubblegum and it is up to Finn and Jake to stop him. NOTE: It is NOT Known Whether Bubblegum’s Youth is Temporary OR If it’s Permanant"

Why is this note here? It is just a misspelled spoiler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.71.139 (talk) 01:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Season 3 listings gone!
Whoever removed the Season 3 episode list, please put it back! It's currently airing.--BNSF1995 (talk) 19:19, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Some summaries are too long
I feel that the summaries should not be more than a few lines long and they should certainly not be reveal every plot point or the ending. The tone of the last two episodes sounds more like a fanfic than Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishhook (talk • contribs) 17:57, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to agree. Someone had a tag to expand all episode descriptions to 6-7 lines which I removed. The reason being, these are 11 minute episodes. Anything more than a sentence or two is too much detail for an episode of that length (unless it was particularly notable). 6-7 sentence descriptions are more suitable for episode summaries of shows that are 44+ minutes in length (and even there you'll find most good wiki articles of this type rarely have descriptions that long).207.237.208.153 (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they're too long. But if you appear to be deleting because you think Wikipedia shouldn't have spoilers you will be reverted. Ratemonth (talk) 00:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Good job, Ratemonth. Well, you might think some description I wrote are too long. But I think an article is too much for every 11-minute episode, unlike those for an hour-long episodes or those on fan-wiki sites. So I think it's better keep it longer, containing spoilers, but not containing too much details. Read WP:SPOILER and related articles for more.
 * Also, I see most of shorter descriptions are copied from the TV Guide website, which I believe is a copyright violation. We have to do something with this.
 * And if you ask me, I did't add guest voices to the list. I think someone needs to take care of those notes and list of guest voices.


 * (By the way, I can't decide whether to split the 8-minute Random! Cartoons short from the main Adventure Time article or not. I believe the splited article should contain more than just plot description by having some section dedicated to the development process and internet reactions respectively. But that conflicts my belief expressed above. What should I do?) JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 06:57, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

One week past and no response. OK. I'm bringing the longer description back. JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 13:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

In reference to a comment a few lines above, why are spoiler deletions reverted? I am one of the spoiler deleters, and I don't appreciate my changes being reverted. They were done for a very good reason. Am I to understand that Wikipedia has a policy in favor of spoilers? What if I want to watch the show and get the effect the writer intended, which is to be surprised? Is this one of those "Information wants to be free" rants? I guess I don't understand the Wikipedia ethic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.209.78 (talk) 03:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia is fine with spoilers. This is an encyclopedia, which is about providing information. If you delete something just because it's a spoiler, you will be reverted. Ratemonth (talk) 13:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I can understand why a page on an episode will have spoilers, but not why a short summary of less than 5 sentences should have 1 of those sentences being pure spoilers (e.g. the answer to the murder mystery of Adventure Time's Ghost Princess ep). I imagine most people will be using the page just to find out what episode comes next and will most likely NOT want to know what happens at the end! Perhaps Wikipedia needs hidden spoiler text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.96.71 (talk) 19:56, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Please see my answer from August 7. Ratemonth (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Me-Mow vs. An Assassin
Adam Muto's Formspring says "Jake vs. Me-Mow" is the new title of "An Assassin in Jake's Nose". Should we accept this source? JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 04:19, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, certainly.Ratemonth (talk) 13:11, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

5-minute preview
Okay, what should I do when Cartoon Network has released a 5-minute preview on their website? JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 17:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Put a link to the preview as your source. A video can be a source.Ratemonth (talk) 18:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Somebody has been messing around
As of 11/22/11. I have noticed that for the Episodes list, names of different TV show characters that are not in Adventure time are put there for heaven-knows-why. This just leads to misconception and confusion. Please whosoever did this, change it back. OR Can anyone fix it please? I presume the original state of the article will return immediatly now that i have made this complaint and pleading for the fixation of this article. [F.Y.I. i'm a big fan of Adventure Time and I rely on the information of the said article] : \ 728riptide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.88.91.213 (talk) 07:26, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

We do revert any vandalism like that. I don't think there's any there at this moment, but let me know if you see some.Ratemonth (talk) 13:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

15-minutes or 30-minutes
Well, I was wondering if we should change the page to make the 15-minute episodes individual episodes, rather than pairing them. I think this because the production codes are each different and not A or B. Also because the 100th episode "Prince Huge" is called the 100th episode and not 50b. I know it would be odd that it originally aired two 15-minute episodes though. Another reason is that when releasing the DVD they said 12 episodes, not 6 episodes or even 12 segments. Also sometimes the episodes aren't aired the "correct" order. For example "The Duke" could be paired with "Henchman". Today, I saw "The Jiggler" air with "Her Parents". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.137.96 (talk) 16:39, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. If you follow the show's cast and production company online, they always refer to each 15-minute (11-minute) segment as an "episode." When the network shows episodes in half hour chunks, the arrangement of those episodes is very fluid; seemingly any episode can be paired up with any other episode. I assume that new episodes are still released in pairs on iTunes, but that's he only place at this point where they are released together. However, I don't even know if the recent season episodes (on the article, they are listed in order of airdate) are even in the same order they're paired on iTunes. --Cornprone (talk) 22:18, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree as well (unless someone comes with a reliable source supporting the current system).Ratemonth (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Another reason is that the credits aren't merged together like they usually are for 30-minute shows. When the 30-minute episode ends, Cartoon Network shows the title card then the end credits as they do with MAD and Regular Show, which are both 15-minute series. Unlike, The Amazing World of Gumball, which has credits that are merged. That of course wouldn't be a source though and all the sources state that they are 30-minute episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.10.110 (talk) 05:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, so you're just waiting for someone to come up with a reliable source that each season is 13 half-hour episodes. So...should we just change it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.10.110 (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. The episodes are intended to be 30 minutes long. The credits contain information (ie. voices/character names) for both segments. The titlecard-in-the-credits method is only used when the segments came from two separate episodes. Various sources (ie. CN Video) list the episodes in a/b format. They didn't start having 15-minute episodes until Regular Show. Oh, and you've inspired me to update my personal list of Adventure Time episodes. (Note the "intended order" column.) nhjm449 (talk) 03:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nhjm449, can you provide a link to the official sources that provide episode numbering in a/b format? I'd like to check it out, and it would help answer our questions on this article. --Cornprone (talk) 08:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The source for the CN Video-sourced a/b info is from video filenames, so I'm not about to post those. Uncitable Tribune Media Services' xmltv schedule data contains episode numbers for two-segment episodes. Random example comparing Adventure Time and Regular Show is here (look for "onscreen"). (Single/mixed-segment airings do not have episode numbers listed, since they don't seem to have support for numbers like "11b" and "19a+12b".) In addition, the ToonZone forums have an officially-sourced schedule that lists episodes in a/b format. Etc, etc. Oh, and here's a random example of credits containing voices for both segments (Power Animal/Crystals Have Power). nhjm449 (talk) 04:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Another final reason, is that the storyboard pictures that are on Frederator.com read "Episode" and then the episode number for example "Thank You" read "Episode: 63" er-I knew the number was something like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.10.110 (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's just from the production code. (They don't select the a/b pairings until later.) Also, lookie what I found: "&#91;...&#93;sorted by their half-hour pairings." The ordering of the list even matches the "intended order" I used on my personal list. nhjm449 (talk) 01:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if this is the case then Regular Show's episode page should sort Season 1 as 6 half-hours and Season 2 as 14 half-hours because Regular Show's production codes are the same way. For example "In the House" is 1009-045 because it is one single episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LocalSents447 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Regular Show has, from day one, premiered in a 15-minute timeslot. Adventure Time started off in a 30-minute timeslot. Regular Show's end credits do not include two segments' worth of information, whereas Adventure Time's do. Whatever sources I listed above (CN Video, TMS, ToonZone, etc.) show that Adventure Time is 30 minutes, while Regular Show is 15 minutes. Etc, etc.
 * Oh, and "In the House" should be #43 in "intended" order. (I recall seeing a storyboard with an actual production number on it once, but I have no idea where to find it now. Actually, did just find a character design sheet saying "Death Metal Crash Pit" is 1009-044. (It's #45 in "intended" order, though.)) I am of the opinion that "Terror Tales" should count as two episodes. (And it's been rerun split apart before, btw.) nhjm449 (talk) 05:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, "Terror Tales of the Park" IS two episodes let's just clear that up between us. Some people might think it's not but it is. A storyboard art with Mordo and Riggs said 1009-045. I'm guessing 1009-045 are the numbers who storyboards are made and if "In the House" was #43 it would be #303 so I'm guessing the way it was animated was the production codes #303 came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.246.9 (talk) 02:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And you all have been arguing that for ages and yet not come up with a single reliable source that says it's true.Ratemonth (talk) 13:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here, have a reliable source showing "Creepy Doll / Death Metal Crash Pit" being paired up with another episode, which shows that it is clearly not glued to "In the House", nor is the name "Terror Tales of the Park" always used. In addition, "In the House" aired separately on Nov. 8 and Dec. 4, and Creepy/Pit also aired separately on Nov. 9. Tribune Media Services xmltv data confirms this and also clearly shows their separate episode numbers. CN.com's Video section also has the episodes listed with separate numbers (again, 43/45). I'll also mention again that House and Creepy/Pit were listed as separate episodes in CN's schedule up until 6 days prior to airing. And, of course, if you want the season's total episode count to add up to 40, "Terror Tales" needs to be considered as two episodes. Etc, etc. nhjm449 (talk) 03:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That looks fine to me. I won't argue over that one any more.Ratemonth (talk) 14:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Even though the production studio may have treated the show like it is half-hour. It's clear the think of it as a quarter-hour show now. http://adventuretimeart.frederator.com/post/17612591814/your-comments-criticisms-and-compliments

Notice how the author writes "26" instead of "13". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.180.136.24 (talk) 23:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Episode List
Hey guys. I think an episode list should be made for season four. Prince Huge has already been confirmed with its production code, 100. And I think New Frontier, Incendium, and Paper Wars should have a Note saying that they were originally named "The Croak List", ""Heart of the Fire Kingdom", and "Word War II" in that order. Just wandering. Haroldfan4eva (talk) 21:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Add it with a reliable source cited.Ratemonth (talk) 21:06, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused about this
Are any of those allegations about “What Was Missing” true, or is that just something someone made up? I’m asking in the name of accuracy because I clicked on the link used as a source and the web page didn’t really give solid evidence, just someone’s interpretation. One person’s interpretation is not equal to indisputable evidence. The site alleged a wrongdoing, claimed that it was obvious to anyone that the wrongdoing had actually occurred, and suggested a cover-up while not offering any concrete evidence or acknowledging that there could be any other interpretation. It also claimed that Gonzo of The Muppets had sex with chickens. The fact that the producer addressed a controversy doesn’t mean that there was a solid basis for the controversy; just that there was one. Remember the |the Mighty Mouse flower controversy? One side claimed that the show openly depicted Mighty Mouse using cocaine, corrupting young minds. Meanwhile, I’ve seen people claim that holier-than-thou pundits had complained before the episode in question could air and got it banned, preventing it from ever being seen. Neither claim is true. Search Snopes.com and you’ll find numerous false claims of inappropriate content and inappropriate censorship, everything from the claim that a tea label showing black people advocated slavery to the claim that Ted Turner had banned The Dukes of Hazzard from the air. For the record, this page currently claims that Finn once used a homosexual slur, so one could also go the other way and claim that the show advocates using homosexual slurs. I just want to know the truth of the matter, not someone's unfounded allegations about the matter. Evernut (talk) 00:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

All the article needs to say is that some people think it's true. Wikipedia doesn't need to agree or disagree with them. Unless the episode's writer says if it's true, then it's just a matter of opinion.Ratemonth (talk) 01:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough and well-written. Thank you. Evernut (talk) 03:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Lack of references for "Number of U.S. Viewers in Millions".
I've noticed that the information listed under "Number of U.S. Viewers in Millions" for almost all of the episodes in season three lack any references. Where did these numbers come from? Are they accurate? How could we be sure of their validity without references? JesseChan23 (talk) 16:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

The viewers are creditable. They all come from TV By the Numbers, Futon Critic, Son of the Bronx, etc.

All of which, are creditable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.248.19 (talk) 20:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Then they need to be cited in the article, for each number in question. A specific url is needed.Ratemonth (talk) 00:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

whats TBA?89.154.114.156 (talk) 11:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

It means To Be Announced.Ratemonth (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Season 6
I found out on some AT worker's Formspring page that there will be a Season 6. Here is the link: http://www.formspring.me/jessemoynihan/q/343528115428933648 --User:Knowitall659 (talk to me!) 01:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm adding that it in. Ratemonth (talk) 01:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

What happened to His Hero / Gut Grinder?
These episodes are part of Season 1 and they don't appear in the list. What happened? --GLaDOS996 (talk) 00:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)