Talk:List of American superhero films/Archive 1

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Started article about a list of American Superhero films. Will need some clean-up, as well as references, more conyrent and maybe an image or two. Please help me by doing this. Thanks.--Snowman Guy (talk) 22:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

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IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Box office grosses, make sure worldwide(not domestic), need to be added from www.boxofficemojo.com
 * Fill in gaps in the tables (not including notes)
 * Add all released Marvel Animation films to the animation section.
 * Add all released films from Warner_Bros._Animation
 * Make the 1992-present bit the same headings and stuff as the top two tables.

Upcoming
Can this section possibly be merged in to the two other sections, I see no reason to sperate it. TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

IS this even needed?
This is largely just a list, not complete, and in some cases not even substantiated, of films that two editors think are superhero films. What purpose does this non-specific list serve that multiple existing articles do not? I've removed a large number of arbitrary decisions about this article, but it's still just an indiscriminate lump of facts, which Wikipedia is not about. ThuranX (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Not sure, its the same information that can be found on the superhero film page but this page is easier to read due to the format.TriiipleThreat (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is.67.250.20.248 (talk) 21:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

V for Vendetta
Is this technically a superhero film, or just a film created from a comic book? Miyagawa (talk) 13:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.250.20.248 (talk) 21:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Megamind?
i dont think ultraviolet or darkman blade thecrow league of ex gents shoud be on that list. it is against the basic superheros standarts. i also dont think kickass and push are pure superhero moves. a superhero movie fan from athens greece. sakis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.38.93 (talk) 11:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

i dont think ultraviolet or darkman blade thecrow league of ex gents shoud be on that list. it is against the basic superheros standarts. i also dont think kickass and push are pure superhero moves. a superhero movie fan from athens greece. sakis.````--79.166.38.93 (talk) 11:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Dick Tracy
Dick Tracy isn't a superhero movie, is it? 68.48.245.53 (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Defendor?
Defendor is a superhero movie.... it should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurassickid97 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Defendor is Canadian. FitzJD (talk) 01:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Chronicle 2012 (film)
I believe that the movie 'Chronicle' should be mentioned in the list of Superhero films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kekekekatie (talk • contribs) 04:36, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

- Chronicle has now been added. You're welcome! :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.1.133 (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd is missing from this list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.169.134.41 (talk) 02:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

- Both "Judge Dredd" (1995) and "Dredd" (2012) have now been added! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.1.133 (talk) 17:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Tables Broken
The tables on this page are broken, but I have no idea how to fix them. All the live action stuff is listed under "Animated" now and all the animated it listed after that under nothing. Kaiserthegreat (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

What about I Am Number Four and Jumper?
I think the should be added as well if movies like Chronicle are on the list as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Number_Four_%28film%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumper_%28film%29

As a side note, perhaps the list should be renamed to reflect that all the movies share the common theme of superpowers, not necessarily superheroes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.135.112.130 (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

What about 'My super ex girlfriend'?
I didn't see it listed. Would that be a good addition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.55.157 (talk) 02:25, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Flash Gordon overlooked?
Was Flash Gordon overlooked? There is a featured film of him which I think should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.173.60 (talk) 05:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Toy Story
Could you count the Toy Story trilogy as superhero movies because of buzz lightyear? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurassickid97 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Buzz wasn't shown as a superhero character for the movie. Yes, he is a hero toy to this movie universe. but that doesn't count. and this movie doesn't have a super villain that support the hero in this particular movie. so this movie doesn't count as a hero movie. P.S: This movie is about toys that come to life, not about a hero fight a villain to defend the city and save the day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.25.191 (talk) 09:44, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

RIPD
RIPD is not a superhero movie ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.49.43.187 (talk) 15:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

40's Captain america film missing
should be added

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Captain_America_(serial)&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.13.126.21 (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Addition to this list
I think "Ultraviolet" should be added to this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.197.79.18 (talk) 12:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I think Aeon Flux should be added... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.187.168.170 (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Comicbook character not necessarily Superhero
The following movies should not appear on this list: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB88:5181:5300:18E6:61AB:57EA:80B4 (talk) 23:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Condorman is a spy-movie, where the spy is partially inspired by a superhero-character at the gadgets, but never actually becomes said character.
 * 2) The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension is a scifi, there is no superhero.
 * 3) Howard theDuck is a scifi, not superhero.
 * 4) Doctor Morbid is a movie with a mage. After loosing the Doctor Strange franchise it lost any element relating superheroes.
 * 5) Tank Girl is an action scifi. No superhero.
 * 6) Judge Dredd (all versions) is just a cop, one of many. Not superhero.
 * 7) Barb Wire is a simple spy/resistance movie placed in scifi environment. She isn't superhero.
 * 8) Casper (all movies) are farfrom including any superhero. They are ghost-stories pure and simple.
 * 9) Star Kid is just sci-fi.
 * 10) Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD is just about NickFury, who is a spy/soldier/maybe action hero - but himself was never a superhero.
 * 11) The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3-D is a story about some people native ina different world/dimension. They are not special amongst their world.
 * 12) Push is just about an anti-government person. Anti-government doesn't automatically puts you on the right side and make you a hero. Face it, the guy is a terrorist.
 * 13) Guardians of the Galaxy are pirates. They're as mush superheroes as Jack Sparrow from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.

Sorting problem
I tried sorting the top table by gross, but it doesn't sort the grosses in numerical order. Is there a way to correct this? Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 01:21, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze
Could the above film be classed as superhero material?Halbared (talk) 23:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I have no idea why one of my favorite cult films "Buckaroo Banzai" is included, but if it's not gonna be removed, and the rules for what qualifies allows Buckaroo, then Doc Savage certainly needs to be added.134.114.212.109 (talk) 04:48, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen 2003
what about this 'Sean Connery's Movie?

89.237.99.122 (talk) 07:17, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

what is up with the stupid
why isn't this, y'know a list? It's not like there's no more room at the bottom of the notebook page or something. This is as stupid as instructions on a box of toothpicks. What Einstein thought cross referencing and collaborating 3 separate tabs to compare release dates was a clever idea. the page title ought to be changed to Some American Super Hero Movies since it's 3 separate pages none of which are in any way comprehensive. Not donating any more — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.29.175.239 (talk) 13:26, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

The Losers
why the movie "The Losers" is not on this list?

It should be Xenohydra (talk) 07:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Superhero ?
Zorro, Conan, Red Sonja, Flash Gordon, The Lone Ranger are not superheroes. Zorro and The Lone Ranger have masks but that's all. Conan has no superpowers nor Red Sonja or Flash Gordon... This list should be more limited. --Olivier Tanguy (talk) 20:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

You don't seem to realize what a Superhero is do you?--please read a Punisher or Batman comic and come back to us. --2601:645:C380:4CB0:C009:A1C2:F887:D619 (talk) 01:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Braven
Why is Braven on this list? This film doesn't have any superpowers or superheroes in it - it's just an action movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.33.103 (talk) 23:55, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

---I have no idea. I decided to start at the bottom of the list and work my way too the top, watching every single superhero film on this list. Me and my girlfriend started month ago and just now finished. There is nothing superhero about this movie at all. It's just a regular old Adventure film, and if we are going to start counting protogonists of every action/adventure film a superhero then this list will become very flawed very quickly. I could see the inclusion of Indiana Jones or Han Solo (I think they both fit, as they have outfits, sidekicks, codenames, alter egos, etc) - but this film, nothing at all. Superherohype doesn't even cover it. I think the producers of Aquaman were trying to create buzz by adding the film here to build up Jason Momoa as their star. I deleted just now. --2601:645:C380:4CB0:C993:DE5:9E9:BF5F (talk) 07:49, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Marvel and DC
I disagree with separating the two major comic book publishers from this list. From what I understand Marvel and DC were segregated due to their having numerous entries and were composing a substantial portion of this list. The benefit of not having a complete and compiled research tool escapes me but is there an old copy of the American Superhero films list archived anywhere that doesn't require prior knowledge of the industry and genre? Are there other publishers who have similarly been removed due to in-group categorization like Marvel and DC have been, I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with publishers other than those two and wouldn't know what additional publishers to search for in order to correlate the separate lists. This is really making my paper on genre trends in film a whole lot harder than I thought it would be when I first came across this resource. There have been very few years where a super hero movie hasn't been released and to a generally profitable result belying the conception that the trend in making super hero movies is new when rather it is just mainstreamed but it seems when you divided up the list into separate niches a lot of that data failed to become transcribed and it's hard to correlate it all back together with all the missing gaps.

I totally agree with the above, this is no longer a list of superhero films and should be renamed "Action Hero Films" instead. The page was great and useful before but now is near useless for most people. I guess I'll find another resource which is more related to its title 86.150.233.87 (talk) 20:19, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Taking out Marvel and DC has made this page so much less useful. I'm not big on superhero movies but I knew this page existed and came to check some things. Unlike before, now if I want to see a full list of superhero movies in order I need to have three windows open at the same time (this page, Marvel page, DC page) and look back and forth and do the ordering in my mind instead of having it in a nice, easy-to-read list. What a bizarre editorial choice. RatMusic (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Recent influx of non-superhero films
Recently, there have been a large number of titles added to this page in the last month which do not seem to fit within the superhero genre, instead fitting within the martial arts or action genres. For example, The Matrix, the Underworld films, and Kung-Fu Panda seem to have little to no connection to superheroes, despite those characters having supernatural or superhuman powers. In addition, there are a lot of "sword and sorcery" films on the list now, like Conan the Barbarian, and the Beastmaster. While these films have a lot of ties to the pulp fiction trappings of early superhero comics, I don't believe this qualifies them to be on this list. I would propose that these entries, along with others that fall outside the guidelines of the genre, should be removed. Camelkong (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The boundaries of superhero fiction are not clear-cut. The main article on the topic cites the following characters as prototypes of the genre:


 * 1) Hanuman.
 * 2) Gilgamesh.
 * 3) Perseus.
 * 4) Odysseus.
 * 5) David.
 * 6) Heracles.
 * 7) Spring-heeled Jack.
 * 8) Robin Hood.
 * 9) King Arthur.
 * 10) The Scarlet Pimpernel
 * 11) Green Hornet.
 * 12) Doctor Syn.
 * 13) John Carter of Mars.
 * 14) Buck Rogers.
 * 15) Flash Gordon.
 * 16) Tarzan.
 * 17) Conan the Barbarian.
 * 18) Hugo Danner.
 * 19) Zorro.
 * 20) The Shadow.
 * 21) Doc Savage.
 * 22) Spider (pulp fiction).
 * 23) Hugo Hercules.
 * 24) Popeye.
 * 25) Phantom (character).
 * 26) Olga Mesmer.
 * 27) Clock (character).
 * 28) Superman.
 * 29) Ōgon Bat.
 * 30) Sarutobi Sasuke. Dimadick (talk) 03:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

List of superhero films
Why is this restricted to American movies? There aren't that many superhero movies made outside the US, so they should be incorporated and the article renamed. Jmj713 (talk) 15:01, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps because this article is titled "American" superhero films 85.220.41.207 (talk) 01:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars?
Why are the Star Wars films included? I've been a Star Wars fan since 1977 and this is the first and only place I have ever seen it referred to as a superhero concept 2604:3D09:1F74:1C00:14AB:6674:2130:BD2A (talk) 04:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The Star Wars entries are cited with an independent reliable source verifying that Jedis are superheroes. Did you read the section above?  As I have tried to explain before, everyone has a different opinion about what is and want isn't a superhero film/franchise.  Some would argue that Luke Skywalker is a superhero because he has powers and uses them to defend the galaxy; while others would argue that he's not a superhero because he doesn't wear a costume.  Such a debate could last for centuries.  However, the personal opinions of editors are immaterial.  That's why independent reliable sources are important.  I hope this helps.  God bless!!!Sparkles32 (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)