Talk:List of Australia national rugby league team players

Change in format
Can we tabilise this information. It look messy and ugly as it is.   The Windler      talk   21:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna get around to it. Hold your horses.--Jeff79 (talk) 21:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Change in title
Shouldn't the official title of the article be "List of Australia national rugby league team players"?   The Windler      talk   21:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Already thought of it. I find that title too unwieldly and "ugly".--Jeff79 (talk) 21:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that the term 'Australian Kangaroos' is the best, not only are there five articles, albeit more recent creations, using a fuller page name (List of players for the England national rugby league team, List of players for the Ireland national rugby league team, List of players for the Wales national rugby league team, List of players for the Scotland national rugby league team, List of players for the Great Britain national rugby league team - the GB article is one of yours actually, Jim), but although everyone get called a Kangaroo now if they play for Australia, for decades wouldn't it only be players on tours who were part of a Kangaroos team?  LunarLander  //  talk  // 20:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been reconsidering as well. Perhaps "List of Australia national rugby league team players" or "Australia national rugby league team players register" would be best.--Jeff79 (talk) 11:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I like your first suggestion. I think 'list of' is the best way to start the title also.  LunarLander  //  talk  // 14:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Shall we switch all these articles to the "List of Australia national rugby league team players" format? there aren't too many links into the articles so it should be pretty quick to do.  LunarLander  //  talk  // 18:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, might as well.--Jeff79 (talk) 08:21, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done.  LunarLander  //  talk  // 19:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

2009 Kangaroos
Is there a source for their cap numbers? Or are we just guessing? They haven't appeared on the ARL site yet.--Jeff79 (talk) 04:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I don't have an online source. It's just I added them because it said there cap numbers in the 2009 Rugby League Annual. I will continue to look for online sources or wait until they appear on the ARL site. Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 08:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If there's a source that you're taking the numbers from then name it in the section at the bottom of the article.--Jeff79 (talk) 09:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Didn't you hear me? I said (Sorry I don't have an online source.) Next time read the full comment. I will type in a source if I find one. Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 03:56, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What is it with little kids and editing (or worse still, discussing) RL content on wikipedia? You mentioned some Rugby League Annual. Sounds like a source to me. A source does not have to be available online for you to cite it. Have a read of Referencing for beginners--Jeff79 (talk) 04:00, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Guess that took care of him !- Sticks  66  13:01, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

"International"
Not sure about the truth of the legend A. All the players who have zero next to their name didn't play in an International. The lead paragraph says the date represents "the first year they were called up for international duties". So I might change the legend to say that too. - Sticks  66  13:01, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorting by club
I'm using Template:sort so that when sorted by 'Club' alphabetically, teams' data isn't separated throughout the list because of name changes during their history. The most recent name the club has gone by will be the name by which they're sorted. The name the club used in the year appearing in the 'Selected' column will be the name that appears on the list.--Jeff79 (talk) 12:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

2009 & 2010 caps
Can't we do this ourselves? It's pretty obvious it's not gonna come up on the ARL site. Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't the cap rules say that they are capped in order of appearance and if they debuted in the same game then they are listed alphabetically. If that is true we can just research a bit and do it ourselves. Any opinions on this? Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 07:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No, we can't. Have a read of Truth.--Jeff79 (talk) 14:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes i know that, but for example, Brett Morris, Brett White & Ben Hannant all debuted in the same game. According to the cap rules they are supposed to be capped in alphabetical order if they debut in the same game. Therefore Hannant would be 761, Morris 762 & White 763. Do you see what i'm saying? There's no use waiting for a source when we already know it is true. Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 07:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You just said, "Yes I know that." By 'that' I presume you meant Verifiability. Perhaps a re-read?--Jeff79 (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Luke Lewis
How can Luke Lewis be capped twice? He's 715 & 765. Josh the newcastle fan (talk) 08:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Not sure if that was our error or theirs. This list is taken from the ARL website and they're not infallible. When they updated the list to include 2009 debuts they accidentally deleted 760 (Darius Boyd), but we've retained him in our list.--Jeff79 (talk) 09:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Anlezark
It's a shame that the rl1908.com site seems to have been converted into a one-page ad for Fagan's book as I'm sure that's where I got a lot of detail from for the article on Arthur Anlezark and it can't now be cross-checked there but it would seem that having been selected for Queensland on the strength of his rugby union credentials, effectively Anlezark made appearances for Queensland, an Australian touring side and an Australian Test side before he had ever played a club game.this seems to say that too. Should we call him "no Aust RL club career" in the club column ?- Sticks  66  12:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ditto for Doug McLean Snr and George Watson who didn't have any RL club careers at all. - Sticks  66  12:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Try the Internet Wayback machine? Good luck Mattlore (talk) 19:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The same must go for Mike Dore and others, as I understand there were no rugby league clubs in Queensland until 1909. I'm happy for rugby union clubs to appear as that most accurately reflects the situation. Do we know what their clubs were at the time?--Jeff79 (talk) 23:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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The url for Edward Buckley needs to be removed as it redirects to Edward Bulkley who had nothing to do with Rugby League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bulkley — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewRLP (talk • contribs) 13:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

The url for Fred Gilbert goes to someone completely different.AndrewRLP (talk) 04:14, 22 November 2022 (UTC) The url for Ron Griffiths goes to the RL coach, who is a different person. The Ron Griffiths on this list would be very close to 100 years old (he played in the 1940's)AndrewRLP (talk) 04:18, 22 November 2022 (UTC) The url for George Smith goes to the NZ athlete born in the 1800's. AndrewRLP (talk) 05:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Updating register
I see the register stopped in 2012. Here are the players since then (with their number and year the made their debut) 786	Andrew Fifita		2013 787	Boyd Cordner		2013 788	Josh Papalii		2013 789	Matt Gillett		2014 790	Josh Mansour		2014 791	Daniel Tupou		2014 792	Dylan Walker		2014 793	Aaron Woods		2014 794	Aidan Guerra		2014 795	Sione Mata'utia		2014 796	Ben Hunt		2014 797	Davfd Klemmer		2014 798	Josh Jackson		2014 799	Arthur Conlin		1909 800	Will Chambers		2015 801	Josh Dugan		2015 802	Alex Johnston		2015 803	Trent Merrin		2015 804	Blake Ferguson		2016 805	Semi Radradra		2016 806	Josh McGuire		2016 807	Michael Morgan		2016 808	Shannon Boyd		2016 809	Valentine Holmes		2016 810	Tyson Frizell		2016 811	James Maloney		2016 812	Matt Moylan		2016 813	Justin O'Neill		2016 814	Jake Trbojevic		2016 815	Jake Friend		2016 816	Dane Gagai		2017 817	Wade Graham		2017 818	Jordan McLean		2017 819	Reagan Campbell-Gillard		2017 820	Tom Trbojevic		2017 821	Felise Kaufusi		2017 822	Cameron Munster		2017 832    Cameron Murray           2019

Note: Arthur Conlin (799) was revealed to have had his Test appearances listed under Albert Conlon for well over 100 years. This oversight was rectified and he was given a number after the 2014 rep season had ended. Source: David Middleton's 2017 AnnualAndrewRLP (talk) 00:33, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thankyou Andrew. Certainly needs updating. Sorry to see it has been neglected - Sticks  66  09:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)