Talk:List of Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) episodes/Archive 1

Season Two/Three
I was under the impression that Resurrection Ship was the 11th episode of a 20-episode season two, albeit a season broken into two parts. -- Scjessey 11:52, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Then why does Sci-Fi channel say Pegasus was the season finale when they advertised it? I don't know what they are doing with it so in order to end an argument I'll reconnect those episodes to season 2. Cyberia23 03:08, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * A normal season for a show on Scifi (Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, etc) has 20 episodes. What they do is they take the first half of these and run them during summer, then run the second half during February-May. ***They've done this for like 4-5 years now. --->What may confuse you is that their advertisements in commercials refer to it as a "summer season finale". That's just a marketing ploy. One Scifi Channel fans are all used to. Season 1 only had 13 episodes so they didn't do that then, but it's going to be in this new format forever.--ViperDaim64.154.26.251 19:55, 28 September 2005 (UTC)


 * With season Two coming to DVD, like really soon, and it looks like some sites like Froogle already have it for sale - I guess it's time to ask again, was Season Two really over in September or does it still have 6 or so more episodes left? Is the DVD coming out while the season is being aired? Cyberia23 18:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * This has already been answered. Like most television shows of a science fiction nature, a season is split in two - often because of Christmas. Season Two of Battlestar Galactica continues in January. The DVD release contains only the first half of Season Two. -- Scjessey 18:38, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * This has already been answered. sorry i didn't see that answered anywhere. But thanks for indicating the DVD is only half a season so I shouldn't rush out an buy it. It's kind of lame they're doing that. So the next DVD will be season 2.5 or something? Cyberia23 01:51, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

DVD content
How are the episodes distributed on the DVDs? I'm trying to figure out which Blockbuster DVDs have which episodes (normally you'd have the entire season, but Blockbuster just mails you one at a time. Does Disc 1 have episodes other than 33 and Water?). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bevo (talk • contribs) January 5, 2006.
 * In the UK, (and i assume in the US too) the first disc has 4 episodes then the other three discs have 3 episodes on each, with the special features on the last one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.27.185.132 (talk) September 15, 2006.

Episode numbers
What is the point of the episode numbers, especially since they have been put in the wrong format? -- Scjessey 01:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Episode numbering
How about putting them in the right format then instead of simply reverting? And what about the Pilot information? You reverted that too.


 * I do not think the episode numbering is necessary; however, if a consensus feels they are, they should be numbered as "101" for Episode 1 of Season 1, etc. There wasn't a "pilot" - it was a Mini Series, and it has its own article. Since it is not part of the television series, it should not be listed among its episodes. -- Scjessey 14:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Episode numbering is useful. What makes the numbering format "101" instead of say "1-1" or "1 01" correct?  Personally I think a format like "S01 E01" would be better. But in this case where the different seasons are clearly delaminated I can't see the point of having any reference to the season included in the numbering.


 * Sure the "pilot" may have not technically have been a pilot and therefore should technically not be included here, however the story is a continuation of the miniseries, it therefore seems more complete to have the miniseries included.
 * My aim is simply to improve the wikipedia and nothing more.


 * The episode numbering is determined by a longstanding convention for science fiction shows. You can see an example of this numbering system on the official site. -- Scjessey 01:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Speaking of the numbering system on the official site, SciFi and Universal appear to consider the two hours of Razor as episodes 401 and 402, not 400 as indicated on this page. It seems to be something that's gone either way at various sites.Cvalin (talk) 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * My understanding was that Razor was meant to be episodes 1 and 2 of season 4. I'm easy though, since I really don't care. As long as I can keep my files in order it doesn't matter to me how others count Razor. I suppose we'll see when the season 4 DVDs arrive.Bwanderson (talk) 20:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * This is correct. Ron Moore has repeatedly stated the episode numbers on his podcasts, which are by all means official since he's the creator of the new series. Changing the numbering in the article. Distribulax (talk) 05:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
The article looks great overall (very informative), but I've noticed some grammatical and style issues here and there that I've tried to cleanup. I'm already at 2 edits for today on this one; does any one want to run a spell check or give it a once-over? I know I saw "separately" misspelled at least once... ka1iban 19:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * In season 2 under the episode 'Sacrifice' it has the characters reasons for being on Cloud 9 in parenthesis, with Tigh's wife listed as 'there to party'. I know it's pedantic, but party as a verb? I've killed for less than that. I haven't changed it because I reckon it's too pedantic and/or that she might have actually said that herself, but still, if there's anybody else out there that feels my pain... Coldy 03:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I changed "Party" to "Socialize"... better?Cyberia23 18:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Socialize is an understatement. She is there to get drunk and frak with whoever looks at her even with a bit of lust. Did you see Apollo? Sith Penguin Lord 16:08, 21 March 2007


 * At least in American English, party can be, and commonly is used as a verb. I think "to party" is more precise than "socialize", also at least in the way American English uses both words. -- Jon (talk) 20:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Spoilers
I don't think there should be spoilers for unaired episodes in this list, and so I've removed them. The Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia of what is, rather than what might be. I've looked at other examples for TV shows, and there seems to be a consensus in this regard. There are plenty of fansites for speculation about forthcoming episodes. Please do not attempt to restore spoilers until a consensus agree, rather than the other way around. -- Scjessey 18:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * KEEP But lame to delete them completely until after the fact. Cyberia23 18:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * AGAINST The spoilers have no business in the list of episodes. At best, spoilers usually represent uncorroborated speculation, and are therefore unsuitable for an encyclopedia. Furthermore, it is not lame to remove spoilers. It makes sense, because spoilers (by their very nature) spoil; therefore, it makes sense to have a vote for their inclusion, rather than their removal. -- Scjessey 19:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well see what happens at least, they were compiled from a few sources and they been up here all week and no one complained until now. If it makes you feel better then take them down. I just think doing so is lame until we get a few other opinions. Cyberia23 19:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't look like anyone cares about the spoilers - but since the season is almost over I'll leave them out. Besides, the source was wrong about the Pegasus' captain names, so I guess they weren't very reliable. Oh well. Cyberia23 07:01, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * KEEP I've been adding episode summaries as I get them. These have been ahead of the air time and thus spoliers. Someone keeps deleting them. If you care to go back and review them you will see that the summaries I've added have been CORRECT and not just speculation (not just might be). While they could be edited better for length etc I don't understand why they can't be kept. For the record, two episodes that I added summaries for have now aired in the US. There is no summary for them as of now. Had my summaries been left this page would be up to date. I'd happily provide references where possible on info for unaired episodes (and not to rumor/fan sites). Unless there is any major objection I'd like to keep this page as current as possible. --Nycmstar 02:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not the one that removed the summaries, but I doubt there was anything personal. Why not just add back the ones for the episodes that have aired? I don't think, though, that summaries belong here for episodes that haven't aired -- speculation, inside source, or otherwise. It's not about whether or not they're ultimately proven correct. It's about verifiability. Until an episode has aired, nobody knows for sure if the information is correct or not, and if there's no citeable source to verify it with, it doesn't belong. --Fru1tbat 04:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I take your point. While I didn't take the removals personally it was a little disheartening (especially when you're dealing with wiki tables) --Nycmstar 01:07, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Survivor Count
I've taken it upon myself to add the survivor count told to us at the beginning of each episode but I need help filling in the blanks as I could only add the ones for the episodes that are one my computer. Let's see if we can get a complete list; think it would be a cool thing to have. --David Youngberg 01:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm against adding because these synopsis will start becoming cluttered. I haven't really noticed the survivor count changing much anyway. It didn't seem to increase after the Pegasus showed up either. It's still like 147000-something last I checked. Cyberia23 06:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd like to suggest that the survivor count be removed. It really isn't crucial to the synopsis of an episode, and it is definitely getting into the realm of what should be on a fan site, rather than a general encyclopedia. -- Scjessey 13:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the running total of the survivor count is important to the flavor and style of the series for the simple reason that the creators make sure to keep it current and to show it in the same place every episode. If it wasn't in the musical overture, then I'd agree with you that it could lead to cluttering. But the fact that it is where it is fulfills a precedent that other "cosmetic" information could not achieve. --David Youngberg 20:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

In episode 103: Act of contriction, 13 pilots die because of an accident. I can't see this in the survivor count?

In episode 106: Litmus, 3 die when a Cylon suicide bomber explodes. This is missing from the count, too. --Jewlofthelotus 22:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't effect the count until the next episode. Msotly I assume so there are no spoilers.

Caprica City/Delphi confusion
This will probably becomes a debate, but according to the Battlestar Wiki (which has way more info about the BSG series than Wikipedia), the Cylons are occupying the city of Delphi, and not Caprica City (the main capital of the Twelve Colonies), although both cities are on the same planet. Delphi is where the museum is located thet held the Arrow of Apollo, and where Helo and Caprica-Boomer were hiding until found by Starbuck and the human resistance. The resistance were hiding out near Delphi and not Caprica City, so it's probably safe to assume in the episode "Downloaded" the Cylons were seen rebuilding Delphi (as mentioned in Battlestar Wiki). I'm leaving it as Delphi for now, as per the other Wiki, but can anyone confirm it. I may have missed it in the show - possibly a subtitle mentioned exactly where they were? Cyberia23 22:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This could be info confirmed in the episode podcast. --Dogbreathcanada 00:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Pegasus vs. Galactica
Is the Pegasus militarily superior to the Galactica, or are they evenly matched? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.40.249.122 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 5 March 2006  (UTC)

I think the Pegasus is a newer ship than the Galactica so there is probably some improvement to the design. It does look like Pegasus is a bit smaller than Gallactica however, so I don;t know if it has the same ammount of armament and fighters. When Admiral Caine threatened to attack Adama during the mediation scene on Colonial One, she said her ship would have no problem in taking Galactica out, but Adama said he doubted that very much. Cyberia23 21:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I can't believe I'm getting involved with this discussion but... as I remember in the scene mentioned above the Pres says that the Pegasus outguns the Galactica. Isn't the whole premise of the series that the Galactica is obsolete and thus slipped the Cylon attack? As far as I can see the Pegasus is meant to be the top of the range ship while the Galactica is a clapped out old banger, making it the underdog. Its advantage is in having such a good commander and crew so when Ardama says 'I doubt that very much' is only because his team would have the edge. ThePeg 2006

Also remember that the miniseries start with the ceremony retiring the Galactica, and it was to become a "museum." Nodekeeper 08:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The expanded version of the episode 'Pegasus' states that Pegasus is twice the size of Galactica but only has half the crew due to superior technology. I assume they mean Pegasus has twice the volume of Galactica (it's bulker and seems wider and taller, but not much longer). The episode 'The Captain's Hand' also reveals that Pegasus is much more heavily armoured (able to take three nukes and still function well, whilst Galactica was badly damaged by just one in the mini-series) and has what appears to railguns capable of inflicting very heavy damage on basestars, which the Galactica does not have. In summary, Pegasus, whilst it was around, was a much more powerful warship than Galactica.--Werthead 10:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope, you're wrong. Gal is larger and more heavily armourd (because it had to be). The Peg was less in quantity, but quality? Probably better.

-G


 * I agree with Wertheads assesment. Pegasus was both directly explained and indirectly hinted at to be superior to Galactica in terms of direct firepower and armor. If you disagree -G then please list your source as Wert did. As a side note to it all though, fighter capacity may not matter since starting capacity is vastly differant then current capacity in a protracted war with no access to replacements. It was set down that Galactica had the better deck crew and had access to all the supplies the fleet had been making for it, which may be why when the squared off they had about equal Vipers despite any difference that may have existed pre-war. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.132.156.26 (talk) 08:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

The Pegasus is much more powerful than the Galactica being a Mercury-class type. It can also jump without retracting the hanger bays and land ships both regular and upside-down. The only thing Pegasus has that Galactica doesnt is a weak top-side where the heat-exchangers are. (see Captain's Hand.) Sith Penguin Lord 14:24, 21 March 2007


 * Agreed, Pegasus is a more powerful ship all around. Adama is saying his command team is much better than Cain's. Jon 17:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Brother Cavill questions
I have some questions regarding this character, and this affects the write-up of the season 2 finale.

1. When the chief sees a copy of Brother Cavil amongst the survivors from Caprica, doesn't the chief realize that the Brother Cavil who counseled him must also be a Cylon? That was my interpretation, and whoever contributed to Cylon (Battlestar Galactica) seems to agree. The current text in the episode summaries makes this point somewhat ambiguous.

2. Is it Cavil, Cavell, Cavill, or what? You can find different spellings throughout the various BG pages.--Tachikoma 18:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


 * To answer your first point, I think he immediately recognizes that Brother Cavil must be a Cylon. And I've already answered your second question (the spelling is confirmed on the BSG website). -- Scjessey 18:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

The second "Brother Cavil" (and I believe it's spelled with one "l" not two), was found on Caprica amongst Ander's survivors - although he never gave his name. When Tyrol met with the priest in the first part that Cylon said he was "Brother Cavil", which doesn't necessarily mean the Caprica version goes by that same name. I know it's confusing with all the copies, but I've been trying to keep track of them between episodes. Here is a rough guide:


 * Cylon #3: D'anna Beers - she was the reporter who came to Galactica during "Final Cut". He number was revealed in "Downloaded".


 * Cylon #5: Aaron Doral - his name was revealed when he appeared in the Mini-Series aboard Galactica as a civilian worker and though #6's advisement, Giaus Baltar fingered him as a Cylon spy. Not taking a chance, Adama abandons him on Ragnar Anchorage, and in the end we find that Baltar was correct, since more copies of Doral appear. I don;t remember when or where his "number" was mentioned, but several sites refer to him as "Number Five".


 * Cylon #6: the blonde woman who remains nameless, but has appeared as Gina (The Pegasus prisoner), and Shelley Godfrey (who appeared to set up Baltar in "Six Degrees of Separation). Although it was never mentioned in the show's canon, the novelized miniseries book reveals Number Six's name as "Natasi", (a Polish name). Interestingly, readers pointed out that spelled backwards it's "I Satan", however the author went on the record stating that this was purely unintentional.


 * Cylon #8: a.k.a Boomer. Both are refered as "Boomer", but I separate them as "Galactica-Boomer" (who was in love with Tyrol and killed by Cally), and "Caprica-Boomer" (who was pregnant with Helo's baby). Her "number" was revealed recently in "Downloaded".


 * Leoben Conoy: (number unknown) was found by Adama aboard Ragnar Anchorage. He later appears in the fleet and is captured. He is the one who tells Roslin that Adama is a Cylon agent. Leoben appears again in the final episode of 2nd season looking for Starbuck (probably for revenge of what he did to him during interrogation).


 * Simon: (number unknown) is the black male Cylon who appeared in "The Farm" as a doctor. Starbuck discovers he's a Cylon and kills him. We see copies of Simon living in Delphi during "Downloaded".


 * Brother Cavil: (number unknown) is the sarcastic older male who appears in "Lay Down Your Burdens" Part 1 and 2, as a priest aboard Galactica and among the Caprica survivors led by Anders.

We still have the crypitic message Adama recieves in the Miniseries: "There are 12 Cylon models" The list is debated as to what models are being refered to, although Ronald Moore stated in an interview that the list includes only humanoid models. Th other machines are not counted, yet some fan lists include the ships and robots as well. Here is a rundown:


 * 1) . The original Centurion Model? (If they're counted) - from the original series and seen for on display for a moment in the Miniseries and mentioned in dialog by Six as too "still being around - and they have their purpose". She may have been refering to the New Centurions.
 * 2) . The New Centurions
 * 3) . The Raiders
 * 4) . The Basestars
 * 5) . Resurrection Ship or Cylon Transport?
 * 6) . Number Three (D'anna)
 * 7) . Number Five (Aaron Doral)
 * 8) . Number Six
 * 9) . Number Eight (Boomer)
 * 10) . Simon
 * 11) . Leoben
 * 12) . Brother Cavil

Now this is just my speculation: but I'm assuming there may be one more female Cylon humanoid. To "keep the balance of sexes", and It's my guess we'll see the other one revealed in 3rd season. My guess is will be Ellen Tigh - for two reasons: she just "appears" and ignores questions about it, and Baltar tells Six he may have lied when he told the others she wasn't a Cylon. Only Baltar knows for sure, but I'm willing to bet one of the main or secondary characters has yet to realize they are a Cylon. I doubt it's Roslin since she has cancer (now in remission). I doubt it's Starbuck since she was being experimented on at "The Farm" (why would the Cylons experiment with themselves), and I doubt Adama is a Cylon like Leoben stated - that would mean Apollo is a Cylon too (since he's his son). I wouldn't be surprised if Baltar himself is found to be a Cylon - that would be interesting. I almost shit my pants when he was at Six's side during her ressurection scene in "Downloaded", I though "holy crap - he is a Cylon!" but we find Six has a mental vision of him too. Others consider the Resurrection Ship and Cylon Transports are Cylons as well. Maybe, but it didn't appear to be "alive" like the other ships. I recall when Boomer destroyed the Basestar at Kobol using the Cylon transponder, it appeared that other Cylon ships that looked like support ships or cargo freighters were flying nearby. I wonder about those as well. Are they autonomous and "living" like the other ships, or are they just vehicles?

Anyway, thats my theory, hope it helps avoid confusion Cyberia23 21:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I believe that Cylons take the name of their alias to be their own and use their numbber as their surname to appear more human. (ex. Caprica Six). It is also been proven that there are multibles of each model and they go by different names and that calling all sixes Caprica or Gina or all fives Aaron Doral cannot be justified.-- Sith Penguin Lord-- 14:35 21 March 2007

Spoiler Warning
With the thoughtful changes made to make the growing article less clunky, should we keep the spoiler warning? I really don't think it has a point now.--David Youngberg 19:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I got rid of it. Cyberia23 20:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

UK preferential?
It appears that this article favors the UK, with UK primacy. Dates are given in UK then US. Considering it is a US TV series, based on a previous US TV series, US information should be given first. And if UK information is given, then a non-US/UK airdate for international broadcast in English, and another for non-English should also be given. 132.205.44.134 04:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Change it if it upsets you so much. --Dogbreathcanada 05:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The show was originally aired in the UK, with much of the funding coming from the UK, despite it being a US-led and inspired concept. -- Scjessey 11:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a bit more complex than that, actually. As I understand it, Sky One gave extensive up-front funding for the first season, and so the first season aired in the UK first.  For subsequent seasons, they didn't provide funding beforehand, but simply bought the programme like any other show purchased from an overseas broadcaster, so the Sci-Fi Channel (US) broadcast it first. I suppose that the two columns could be reversed, since more episodes have now premiered in the US than in the UK. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Standardization
I have converted this list into the standard form of TV show lists (see South Park list, a featured list). If anyone would like to add the missing episode summaries or revise the current ones, please do. Helmandsare 17:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * whats considered the standard form for TV show lists? -Xornok 02:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what the exact format for TV show lists are, but most at least include the title, original airdate, a brief summary, and a picture from the episode. If I get the time soon, I will add the pictures. Helmandsare 19:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, there was a WikiProject for it, WikiProject List of Television Episodes, and it's getting back off the ground once more. You guys might be interested in the new template, which might not be needed for the episodes already listed, but makes it nice and easy for new episodes Template talk:Episode list.  If you have any input on the way you would like the custom columns to be displayed be sure to make a note of on the discussion page.  We currently have it set up to have two generic "aux" columns that display before the airdate and episode number, but we might be able to come up with something if you guys want to use the current order. -- Ned Scott 04:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, and here are some examples of articles already using the template Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Episode list, Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Japanese episode list -- Ned Scott 04:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Pre-emptive disambiguation
I've noticed that every episode here has been disambiguated with "(Battlestar Galactica)", regardless of whether or not the episode name exists already as a Wikipedia article. It seems as though it's generally contrary to Wikipedia guidelines to disambiguate when no ambiguity (yet) exists. Given the large number of episodes, is it worth the effort to change this convention? How stringent is the guideline? -- Fru1tbat 19:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer to keep the current system, it's neat and tidy. If we started un-disambiguating we'd have titles all over.. but if we have a heiarchy ts nice and tidy. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Out-of-place content
The entire current webisodes section doesn't seem to belong here. It has very little to do with the list of episodes itself (i.e. the point of this article), and merely duplicates content from the main TV series article. I'm a little dubious of the DVD release and online availability sections as well, but at least they're not just providing background on the series. Until the webisode list is actually populated, I'm tempted to delete the section's content and just provide a "see also" link to the main article's Webside section. Any objections? -- Fru1tbat 18:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's been stated that the webisodes provide continuity. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I misspoke. When I said "current", I should have specified that at the time I made that comment, no actual episodes had been listed. I'm all for including the webisodes themselves. It's the background information that I object to. It duplicates the main article, and is off-topic in an episode list. The labor dispute issues and availability/fan disappointment (which, incidentally, appear to be unsourced) belong in the main article only, or a separate article for the webisode series itself, not here. -- Fru1tbat 18:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahh yes, that info belongs on main page. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

UK season 2 DVD question
Can anyone who actually owns the UK release of season 2 confirm that it does in fact contain the exended version of episode 10, 'Pegasus' 82.27.185.132 12:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It does. The version of the episode on the Region 2 is approximately 56 minutes long, or 12-odd minutes longer than the original version, and has several extended and new scenes. The Region 1 DVD release, which was in two halves, I believe has the original version on the 2.0 box set and the extended version on the 2.5 box set. The UK set only has the extended version. The confusion stems from the fact that this isn't mentioned anywhere on the DVD box.--Werthead 10:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Using previews for unaired episodes
I'm commenting out the ep summary for 3x03 for now. Unless someone has access to the full episode in advance of its premiere broadcast, considering how misleading preview trailers can be (and how cut-up the dialogue and video is), it should be left as "this episode has not yet aired" until the preview hints can be verified when it actually airs. -- Fru1tbat 16:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Misleading? How is a promo for the episode misleading? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's well-established in TV circles that the promos don't necessarily accurately represent the episode plot... Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The scene in the preview, for example, where Adama says "I started it" and appears to be referring to the Cylon attack, is pretty well cut-up, with clips of dialogue and clips of video somewhat incoherently strewn together. I rewound and replayed it several times to try to figure out how it all fit together, and it's extremely muddled. I feel strongly that it's better to leave the summary alone until the actual episode is seen in full. "This episode has not yet aired" is simply more dependable, and possibly more accurate, than information from the promo right now. In the context of Wikipedia, accuracy and dependability are extremely important. Since there's already an article for the episode, I think it's best to leave the preview summary there, but indicate it as such, rather than list it as the episode summary in the table. -- Fru1tbat 17:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'd be willing to sacrifice the summary on here until it airs, but the image is accurate and so should stay. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I don't have a problem with the image. I just commented it along with the summary more or less for consistency. I'm ok with leaving it there. -- Fru1tbat 17:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Webisode Shortening?
Since "The Resistance" webisodes are technically a bunch of small parts making up a single episode, I think the table for it should shortened to one entry instead of links all the individual parts. The episode synopsis itself could have them separated and detailed individualally. It takes a big chunk of the page and each part only expanded upon the plot and story of the previous one, so do they deserve to be detailed singly like this? Cyberia23 21:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


 * where have you read/heard that they make up a single episode? -Xornok 19:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't "read/hear" it anywhere. The webisodes do SHARE a common name do they not? "The Resistance", and each is like 5 minutes long, so if gather all ten together you sort of get like an hour-long episode. I'm just trying to be efficient here. Cyberia23 00:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I can see your prdent and it would likely be more prudent and more comprehensive to do what you say. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 07:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd go ahead and change it myself, but I think it should be by consensus so no one gets upset. Cyberia23 22:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So what's the concensus? Or does anybody care? Cyberia23 19:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you can confine the synopsis to a couple lines like the other episodes, I for one have no problem with it. Just combining all of the existing synopses will result in a fairly bulky and unwieldy table cell... A lot of the details can be left to the webisode article. -- Fru1tbat 19:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I saw that no one objected to shortening the webisodes to one episode, so I took the liberty of doing it. If anyone can find a screenshot, that would be great. -- Helmandsare 21:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Each webisode is a different download, so the list of the webisodes should be kept at least somewhere. Now it was removed and the information is lost. I suggest reintegrating this list or listing it somewhere else (like in the resistance article). --84.178.123.190 15:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Why was it erased?  They count as episodes and thus should be listed just as any other episodes were.  Things happened that affected the show as a whole.  I'm glad it was at least preserved in the talk page, I having read through it all with interest since I didn't see those episodes and was curious about them. Dream Focus (talk) 06:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Screen captures
A slight FYI here, I will be replacing all the season 1 and 2 4:3 HR.HQ images with 16:9 web resolution screen captures from the DVDs, which will also be correctly sourced and FURd. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Started on first 3 episodes, will do mini-series as well, shall do more of season 1 tomorrow. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:34, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work so far. :) – ARC GrittTALK 08:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)