Talk:List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones/Archive 5

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2017
"Starboy" is listed under songs with the most weeks at number two without hitting number one, but it actually did hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100 issue dated January 7th, 2017, so it should be removed from that table. Mark.g 1994 (talk) 00:00, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅ How that got past me, I don't know. A sneaky edit that preceded one I made a few minutes later. MPFitz1968 (talk) 00:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Inclusion of Beyoncé in section "Most number-one singles" (Artist achievements)—goes against consensus
This edit attempted to add Beyoncé to the list of artists with the most number-one singles. As of the December 23, 2017 Hot 100 chart, she now has 6 number-one songs apart from Destiny's Child and 4 with the group (for the total of 10 all-time). However, the tallies she has by herself and with DC are considered separate, and the hidden note in the section—Note to any future editors: We rely on Billboard's computational criteria here. Because of this, there is no need to footnote the previous or subsequent number ones by each of the solo Beatles, Diana Ross, or the Jackson Five. Neither should those separate totals be added to the above performers, to "boost" their standing. Thanks, everyone.—expresses we shouldn't be combining tallies between an artist's solo career and their memberships in groups. Otherwise, Michael Jackson would be reported as having 17 ... the 13 shown as a solo artist, and 4 with the Jackson 5. Paul McCartney would be close to 30 I think if we include his hits with The Beatles, Wings, and other projects (namely, duets with Jackson and Stevie Wonder). Diana Ross would show 18, including the 12 mentioned by The Supremes. Consensus has decided to keep the tallies between solo and group achievements separate, and we need to respect that consensus. That includes how we handle Beyoncé here. MPFitz1968 (talk) 04:21, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2018
Havana should be typed like this: Camila Cabello featuring Young Thug – "Havana" (2018). Please! SergioHolt369 (talk) 17:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ I have reverted the edit in question, as it is not confirmed yet whether "Havana" is at #1 on the Hot 100. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:28, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Well NOW it is confirmed that it reached #1!!! SergioHolt369 (talk) 19:22, 22 January 2018 (UTC) https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8095345/camila-cabello-havana-young-thug-hot-100-number-1

WHY CAN I NOT EDIT ANY PAGE (INCLUDING THIS ONE)??????????????????????
Hello guys, I don't know why I am not able to edit any page, could somebody help me please? Thank you SergioHolt369 (talk) 19:17, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Read Protection policy#Semi-protection. Only accounts over 4 days old having more than 10 edits can edit the article. Excelse (talk) 06:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Paula Abdul / Most consecutive number-one singles
I noticed that Paula Abdul would technically have 6 consecutive number-one singles aside from some remix song "1990 Medley Mix" from her remix album in 1990 that didn't chart anywhere aside from 33 in Australia. Not sure if this is considered an official single or promotional. I think it's kind of unfair that some obscure song from a little-known remix album can interrupt this streak, but I'm not sure. Should she be added to this table? Heartfox (talk) 21:05, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This is further clouded by the re-release of "The Way That You Love Me", first peaking at #88 in 1988 (released before "Straight Up"), and then reaching #3 in late 1989, between her #1 singles "Cold Hearted" and "Opposites Attract". I'd rather see a source from Billboard to confirm this streak before we add. MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:47, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Regarding the "1990 Medley Mix", it didn't chart on the Hot 100, so it wouldn't affect the streak. But the re-release of "The Way That You Love Me" (in my last post) likely would. MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah it would be interesting to see how they credit the re-release. Heartfox (talk) 23:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Mariah Carey's achievements
She should be the highlight when having most #1 debut songs, also most #1 songs as a solo artist, having all her first 5 songs to #1, songwriter, producer, having 13 #1 songs from 1990-1999, hit #1 every year in a decade, and also Elvis Presley's facts are literally wrong when he actually having only 17 #1 songs and 75 weeks at #1.. Asrafnordin (talk) 15:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

J. Cole’s debuts
Being announced just half an hour ago I didn’t except it to be on the page, but J. Cole now has the record for the most top 10 debuts in one week with 3 debuts, ATM at No. 6, Kevin’s Heart at No. 8, and KOD at No. 10, higher than Ed Sheeran & Drake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike weber13 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Selena Gomez Top 40 record
I feel like this should be added to the “Select additional Hot 100 achievements” section:

As of June 2018, Selena Gomez has a streak of 15 consecutive top 40 hits on the Billboard Hot 100, which is the longest active run of any artist.

Source: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8459439/selena-gomez-maroon-5-hot-100-chart-moves Cmatgal (talk) 02:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The article should focus on records pertinent to the entire duration of the chart, not just on a recent streak. While Gomez's streak is remarkable - and the source says the streak started with "Love You Like a Love Song", from more than six years ago - this is documenting a streak that is happening now (WP:RECENTISM) rather than one that has stood the test of time (or at least that covered by the Hot 100's existence). I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of artists that have had way more than 15 consecutive top 40 songs/singles over the course of the Hot 100's history. MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

"Albums that every track from it charted on the Hot 100"
This added section (diff) looks WP:INDISCRIMINATE, and I have decided to remove it on those grounds. This has been only a recently occurring phenomenon because of streaming's impact on the Hot 100 in recent years, and perhaps to a lesser degree, digital downloads. (Note that the earliest album shown in this addition is from 2015, Bieber's Purpose.) The relevance of this section needs to be further discussed before inclusion - though with the bulk of content in this article, we may need to discuss the relevance of many sections, and/or restructuring them so that they are presented with a fair amount of space (the sections which show artists hitting the top 10 with three or more songs simulatenously or occupying the top two positions simulatenously are good examples - wouldn't this be better presented without all the songs, or at least presented in some way that it doesn't require several scrolls?). MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2018
Big Hawk is now credited on Sicko Mode. Posthumous number one Desiraesblade (talk) 20:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please provide a reliable source which supports this claim. Billboard currently has just Travis Scott credited on that song, on their most recent charts, including the sole week that it was at #1 on the Hot 100. If Big Hawk were to be credited on "Sicko Mode" as of now, the song would have to return to #1, with him receiving (featured) credit the week it returns to the top, to be considered a posthumous #1 for him. MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2019
"Januray" = "January" 2605:E000:9149:8300:693B:CD7E:41B2:8D1B (talk) 02:41, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done DannyS712 (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2019
Janet Jackson has not earned 28 top ten hits. She has earned 27. The link that is provided looks like the writer in the article wrote a typo. This is the link where it shows Janet's chart history. https://www.billboard.com/music/janet-jackson 69.112.162.107 (talk) 16:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This is just to set the record straight. Janet Jackson has appeared on 29 songs that have hit the Billboard Top 10. Billboard credits her with 27, as seen on https://www.billboard.com/music/janet-jackson. The other two are 1987's "Diamonds", by Herb Alpert featuring Janet Jackson and Lisa Keith, which Billboard credits solely to Alpert, and 2010's promotional single "We Are the World 25 for Haiti", credited jointly to Artists for Haiti. I think the most likely answer is that the 2001 Billboard writer considered "Diamonds" as a Janet Jackson top 10, and in the 17+ years since, Billboard has reclassified it and does not count her appearance anymore. Sound good? Sbb618 (talk) 16:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * On the Billboard Hot 100 charts back in 1987, Janet Jackson was never given any artist credit (featured or otherwise) on "Diamonds". (Thoroughly checked the print editions of the charts at, but appears that this is also shown as such at the online charts.) Joel Whitburn, on the other hand, does give Jackson a featured credit on it (well a "with" credit, from his Top Pop Singles and Pop Annual books, at least - no mention of Lisa Keith, however). Not sure about the "We Are the World 25" one - generally a large get-together like that doesn't credit any of the individual artists; Lionel Richie and Michael Jackson, who wrote the original "We Are the World", while given songwriting credits, are not credited individually as artists on the song, and neither are the bunch of other artists on it (Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, Huey Lewis, Bruce Springsteen, Tina Turner, Cyndi Lauper, Willie Nelson, Paul Simon, Ray Charles ... just to name a few). Anyway, best to stick with how Billboard tallied Janet's top 10s, even though I personally would give her credit on "Diamonds" (she definitely is a primary vocalist on it). MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:32, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. —  Newslinger   talk   11:06, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

R. Kelly mysteriously absent from Billboard's list of #1 debuts.
R. Kelly debuted at #1 on December 5, 1998 with "I'm Your Angel". Much like "Harlem Shake" and the other 1990s #1 debuts, he only managed to debut at #1 on a technicality. I've added it, even though it doesn't appear in the source.

The week that Kelly debuted #1 is here: https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1998-12-05

Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 05:44, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That's because Billboard doesn't consider that song a #1 debut. This is one of those times when the online edition of the Hot 100 fails to take into account the overall picture. The December 5, 1998 chart had a major overhaul with Billboard allowing airplay-only songs (those without a commercial single) to chart on the Hot 100 for the first time, with about 60 total songs making their first appearance on the chart that week, including "I'm Your Angel" (and the Goo Goo Dolls' song "Iris", which was completing a record-setting 18 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 Airplay chart, known today as Radio Songs, and made its first appearance on the Hot 100 proper at #9). In the print edition of that Hot 100, the "Last Week" and "2 Wks Ago" columns for "I'm Your Angel" were filled with positions (did not show the word "NEW" as is the case with all debuts on the chart); these positions were coming from unpublished test charts Billboard used ahead of the launch of these major changes in methodology. Also read this talk page entry: Talk:List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones/Archive 2. And these articles: (note the chart at the top of that one) and  ("Chart Beat"). Interestingly, that week of December 5, 1998, "I'm Your Angel" debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 Singles Sales chart (see  - of note, the page before that will show the entire Hot 100 for December 5, 1998). Hot 100 Airplay was showing that song at #38, with 7 weeks accumulated, and likely the reason Billboard doesn't consider the song a debut at #1 on the main chart, thanks to the big changes occurring that week to the Hot 100, along with those "test chart" positions. MPFitz1968 (talk) 08:00, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Non-English language number-ones
Joe Dowell's "Wooden Heart" ("Muss i denn"), in English/German, reached the summit of the Hot 100 on 28 August 1961. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.185.97.165 (talk) 04:48, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Selected additional Hot 100 achievements
The record "Cardi B is the record-holder among female artists for the most simultaneous entries in the Hot 100, with 13 on the April 21, 2018 chart" has recently been surpassed. Instead, it should be "Billie Eilish is the record-holder among female artists for the most simultaneous entries in the Hot 100, with 14 on the April 13, 2019 chart" Lord Gurno (talk) 21:15, 30 April 2019 (UTC)Lord Gurno

New record for most songs on the chart by a female artist
Page is edit-locked, but Cardi B is currently listed as the female artist with the most songs on the chart at once, with 13. Billie Eilish passed her with 14 songs on the April 13 chart. Jfarbzz (talk) 11:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ Do you have a reliable source, preferably from Billboard (which should definitely be on top of that statistic), stating this? When that's presented, per WP:V, the statement in the "Selected additional Hot 100 achievements" section can be updated. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:37, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Found source from Billboard to update the achievement here. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2019
Change 91 to 92 in Chris Brown's Hot 100 tally. Miladvedaie (talk) 05:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done NiciVampireHeart 07:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Madonna
Madonna's album Madame X dropped this week from #1 to #77. Does anybody happen to know if this is the biggest fall from the top of the album charts ever?--Hippocastanum (talk) 23:25, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As this is something that happened on the Billboard 200, not the Hot 100 (note that it says "Hot 100 chart achievements" on the top of this talk page and the accompanying article), this shouldn't be addressed here. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay! Thanks for that information! Maybe someone should add a referral to the top of the article.--Hippocastanum (talk) 23:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Even though irrelevant here, decided to check that Billboard 200 stat myself. It's already mentioned at Billboard 200 - 4th biggest drop from #1, from what I see there. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:47, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I already saw it, though Bon Jovi's chart performance isn't really comparable with Madonna's album performance, as their album was just a re-release. 😋--Hippocastanum (talk) 23:52, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2019
Old Town Road has blocked a record 7 songs from reaching #1 on the Hot 100. Nice little addition to "Selected additional Hot 100 achievements" 73.96.106.191 (talk) 17:30, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ Do you have a source to support this? I somewhat agree with inclusion if a source can be provided, but as none was, the addition can't be made at this time. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Most weeks at #1
Under the chart, it mentions solo artists combined with their groups (eg., the members of the Beatles). Diana Ross solo and with the Supremes totals 42 weeks at #1. This, too, would place her on this chart. It should be mentioned. Squad51 (talk) 03:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2019
This is the only source I could find for Old Town Road preventing a record-breaking 7 songs from reaching #1 on the Hot 100 (https://www.goldderby.com/article/2019/lil-nas-x-old-town-road-billboard-history-record-news/) The list of songs in order: Wow by Post Malone ME! by Taylor Swift and Brendon Urie If I Can't Have You by Shawn Mendes I Don't Care by Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber Bad Guy by Billie Eilish You Need To Calm Down by Taylor Swift Señorita by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello

Also, based on early predictions, Post Malone's latest single featuring Young Thug, Goodbyes, could be the 8th song to be blocked by the monster that is Old Town Road, but of course that isn't promised. 73.96.107.77 (talk) 22:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.. It's a cool story, but that doesn't look like a Reliable Source to me, sorry. --kingboyk (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Old Town Road blocking songs from reaching #1 record
Old Town Road has blocked a RECORD seven songs from reaching #1 on the Hot 100

Sources: Primary source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2019/07/08/lil-nas-x-has-set-another-record-by-beating-shawn-mendes-camila-cabello-and-taylor-swift-to-no-1/#5af46fdb6b45

Secondary sources: https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1145755195109826561 https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1145754416978583552 https://coed.com/2019/06/24/lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-blocks-taylor-swift-from-no-1-spot/ https://knue.com/old-town-road-longest-running-no-1/ 2601:1C2:1400:8DE1:68F5:74EC:6FD:6F5 (talk) 01:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌ ... for the time being. While the sources are appreciated, the problem with this statistic is that there's no guarantee that the songs that have been blocked, so far, from reaching #1 because of "Old Town Road" will never reach the top later on, whether or not any of them directly replaces "Road" at the top. "Bad Guy" is not completely out of the running in reaching #1 ... and for that matter, neither is "I Don't Care", with the rebound to #3 on the July 27, 2019 chart. Any of the songs that have been stopped at #2 because of "Road" conceivably could reach #1 up until they are completely off the chart, and if any of them do reach #1, it subtracts from the statistic already compiled ... i.e., the 7 total songs that "Road" has blocked would be reduced. I would wait until it's a bit more certain that this count will not be reduced. MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

It's not about the songs going #1 later. It's about the songs being blocked initially. Add a flag or something saying that the song eventually reached #1 (if that even happens. I Don't Care is expected to fall to #5 next week and it's only leg is radio.) Sources: Primary source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2019/07/08/lil-nas-x-has-set-another-record-by-beating-shawn-mendes-camila-cabello-and-taylor-swift-to-no-1/#5af46fdb6b45

Secondary sources: https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1145755195109826561 https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1145754416978583552 https://coed.com/2019/06/24/lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-blocks-taylor-swift-from-no-1-spot/ https://knue.com/old-town-road-longest-running-no-1/ 2601:1C2:1400:8DE1:68F5:74EC:6FD:6F5 (talk) 03:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * In the context of this statistic, when a song hits #1, even if it had been blocked from getting there by another #1, it is not considered blocked from the top spot. But for any particular week, a song that is at #1 is blocking all other songs on the Hot 100 from that position, though any that had reached #1 previously are not considered blocked. The statistic is also focused squarely on the songs that peaked at #2 (peak in this case meaning their entire chart run, not just up to the point where it was being kept from reaching the top by a specific song or set of songs). Take a look at this source, which lists the runners-up in this statistic. (This came out before "Old Town Road" had broken the record for keeping the most #2 songs out of the top position.) Every song listed that is not in bold is a song that ended up peaking at #2, failing to reach the top at any point in their chart run, and specifically kept out of the top spot (in the weeks that it was #2) by the #1 song identified in bold. It is important to point out that some of these #2 peaking songs were kept out of the top spot by other #1s not listed, but if at any time, the song were to have reached #1, whether directly replacing the song blocking it or much later in its run, it no longer would have a peak position of #2 and thus is no longer blocked from the top spot. What this statistic is really portraying is a tally of #2-peaking songs that came so close to the top and would've been #1 had it not been for this song or that song. "Old Town Road" just managed to put this kind of frustration on seven of these songs so far, but this doesn't mean that none of these seven will ever hit #1. And if any of these seven make it to the top, whether they succeed "Old Town Road" or hit the top later this year, or in 2020, 2021, 2022, etc., it will be deducted from the tally of songs "Old Town Road" blocked from the top, period. No need to waste an asterisk or a cross, or some other symbol, to indicate this, and further confuse readers. MPFitz1968 (talk) 10:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

It's just a minor statistic.. why is it being looked over like a murder trial 2601:1C2:1400:8DE1:CA8:41D:AF3F:CDDD (talk) 20:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

The record of Old Town Road blocking songs from reaching #1
In it's (however long the song lasts at #1) weeks at #1, Old Town Road blocked 7 songs from reaching #1 Note I didn't say it blocked these songs overall. 2601:1C2:1400:8DE1:F1F5:E448:56A1:2E5A (talk) 22:17, 29 July 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌. It's not clear what change(s) you want to make, or what "blocking" songs means, how it's measured, etc. Please make a precise request.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2019
Old Town Road blocked 7 songs from reaching #1 during it's 17 week run (so far). Key words are "blocked" and "during", because my previous requests for this statistic to be added was denied because of the thought of the songs eventually reaching #1?. I'm not focusing on that. In my opinion, this should be added to the selected additional Hot 100 achievements section of the article. Source 2601:1C2:1400:8DE1:FDC8:5E5E:7FEA:AB6E (talk) 16:32, 30 July 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌ As before. The intent of the statistic is to identify how many songs "Old Town Road" blocked from hitting #1 altogether, whether at the time "Road" was on top or anytime after that. Note I didn't say it blocked these songs overall. (from IP's previous request) That changes the intent of what the source is conveying. I will reiterate this source, and look at all the other #1 songs that blocked #2s; none of the #2s listed ever hit #1 because of the song holding the top spot, in whole or in part (some of those #2s ended up blocked by other songs as well). Again, I would wait until the dust settles on this before reporting the final statistic on this. Certainly, the 7 songs that have been blocked so far may never reach the top, or any of them (continue to keep an eye on "Bad Guy") may somehow make it to #1, even succeeding "Road" at the top. The point is, this is too incomplete a statistic to state clearly that "Road" has set the record ... it may hold up in the end, even if 6 of the 7 it has blocked from #1 so far would still be a record, but then again, more could happen in the weeks ahead. And may I make a note here: Continuing to request this isn't going to change my mind about inclusion. Another editor is free to override what I've said and allow its inclusion (as long as they make their reasons clear on the talk page). I would say be patient about this statistic, there is WP:NOHURRY to add it. Again, I'm not 100% against this statistic being mentioned, it's just too dynamic right now in this era of the chart (with songs bouncing all over the place on the chart as opposed to the predictable up-down pattern from the early days of the Hot 100, before 1992), but if you continuously make more requests, about this same thing, it will be seen as disruptive and could result in admin intervention/action. At the very least continue to respond in the threads already set up. MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Another case in point: I will also mention regarding one of the songs that blocked several songs from making it to #1, the source (that is linked above) states Kesha's "Tik Tok" blocked 4 songs ... "Replay" by Iyaz, "Bad Romance" by Lady Gaga, "Today Was a Fairytale" by Taylor Swift, and "We Are The World 25: For Haiti" by Artists for Haiti. It doesn't mention "Imma Be" by the Black Eyed Peas, which looked like it was gonna peak at #2 (February 20, 2010) when "We Are The World 25" moved in (February 27, 2010), knocking the Black Eyed Peas song down to #3. The following week (March 6, 2010), "Imma Be" replaced "Tik Tok" at #1. If "Imma Be" hadn't reached #1, it would've been included with the songs listed under "Tik Tok" (which would've tied "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" at the time for blocking the most #2-peaking songs from reaching #1). MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Warwicke
Under "Biggest Drops from Number One", Dionne Warwick's last name is misspelled. 71.121.245.86 (talk) 13:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * In the article for Dionne Warwick, under the section Mid-1960s to early 1970s, the last sentence there reads: Also in 1971, Warwick had her name changed to "Warwicke" per the advice of Linda Goodman, an astrologer friend, who believed it would bring greater success. A few years later, she reverted to the old spelling after a string of disappointments and an absence from the Billboard top 40 (with the cited reference here). "Warwicke" appears in the source cited under the "Biggest Drops" section, and also the Hot 100 charts, found at billboard.com, for October 26, 1974 (#1) and November 2, 1974 (#15). MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Cardi B to be added in Non-English language number-ones section
I Like It by Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin has reached the top position on Hot 100 for the chart issue dated July 7, 2018 for one week. As it contains verses sang both in English and Spanish, I think it should be added to the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.94.174.66 (talk) 14:04, 28 December 2019 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.52.61.62 (talk)

Ashanti / Credited vs Uncredited in general
What is everyone's feeling about limiting the list to credited artists/writers? I was told that the current policy is to only limited to credited artists and writers, but I think uncredited vocals should count, especially when their voices can be heard solo in parts of the song, or even the whole song. There are even quite a few acts that never credit vocalists at all. I think this is even more true when writing goes uncredited. Why should record label crediting machinations keep acts from claiming milestones they did the work on?

The specific edits that I made were in reference to Ashanti, who was both a writer and vocalist on Jennifer Lopez's Ain't It Funny (she is credited only as background vocals despite her voice being clearly heard solo in multiple places in the song, including most of the chorus), and was also an uncredited vocalist on I'm Real. Both of those songs reached number one, and, for a period of time, the only songs to unseat them were songs on which Ashanti was a credited vocalist: Always on Time and Foolish (which she also wrote). This is true for a span of 16 weeks, almost as long as the longest number one runs ever. Additionally, her song Wut's Luv adds to the span of time in which she held the top two, three, and (for one week) four spots. I think it's a pretty incredible feat, but the math only works out if her uncredited vocals are included, or if the vocals wrongly advertised as "background" vocals are properly recognized as leading vocals, which they plainly are for anyone who listens to the song.

While this the specific case for Ashanti, I think it could easily apply in other circumstances. David Guetta does not always credit all of his vocalists (Bebe Rexha was only belatedly credited on Hey Mama). The Rolling Stones never didn't give artist credit to Merry Clayton on Gimme Shelter, but if that song were a record holder, I think it would be fair for her to have some claim over that record. Several Crystals songs were sung entirely by Darlene Love, shouldn't those count towards her stats (if she were in range of a record) rather than The Crystals?

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Basically I think that there are a lot of machinations that go into the credits on the label, but that shouldn't stop an artist from getting recognition for work they've done when it is widely known. At the very least I think it's worthy of a notation, even if listed separate;y from the main lists. Schnapps17 (talk) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Combined writing/vocal milestones
Separately from the topic I just posted, I also wondered about a list of milestones that combines writing and performing. For example, even leaving aside the issue of uncredited or undercredite vocals, combining writing and performing credits would give Ashanti a 16 week run at number one, almost as long as the longest charting single. It would also give her the top 4 spots during one week in 2002. I'm willing to bet there are a number of other writer-performers who have similar achievements when their writing and performing credits get combined.Schnapps17 (talk) 22:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Biggest drops off the Hot 100
Since the Seasonal songs were split off into a different section, should this entry I found in the history be reinstated?:


 * From # 12 – Taylor Swift – "You Belong with Me" * (November 29, 2008), Lady Gaga – "Hair" (June 11, 2011), One Direction – "Midnight Memories" (December 14, 2013)


 * When I split the seasonal songs into their own section, I recall the list with the non-holiday entries shrinking to less than 10, so I'd say yes. I had also thought about splitting Prince's songs from the list, into one about recharting songs after the death of an artist (something that has also been occurring with regularity, particularly with ones making the most impact in music, like Whitney Houston and George Michael), but since Prince would be the only one in such a list right now, I held back on it. That should require even more input than the seasonal songs, so I'll leave it to anyone else looking at this: should songs recharting following the death of an artist be allowed into their own section, too? MPFitz1968 (talk) 05:57, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2020
Whitney Houston's 14 week number one song 'I Will Always Love You' wasn't the only song that blocked Shai's 'If I Ever Fall In Love'. The Height's How Do You Talk To An Angel, also blocked it on the week of November 21, 1992. 71.218.122.137 (talk) 02:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2020
Its eight weeks at number 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the US, which was held off from the top slot by The Height's How Do You Talk to an Angel and also due to the massive success of "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston, it was blocked for another seven more weeks, meant that it held the record for the second-most weeks at number two in the chart's history at the time' If I Ever Fall In Love by Shai was blocked by two songs, not just one! 97.118.247.255 (talk) 02:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  JTP (talk • contribs) 04:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. I actually saw this request twice and had thought of updating the list when the first request came out. The IP did provide a link to the Hot 100 in question, and it verifies ... that chart I provided as a source in the update to the article. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2020
Change the "34" next to circles by post Malone under most weeks in the top 10 to "35" Lmaoxdlolrofl (talk) 17:49, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done by . GoingBatty (talk) 19:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Instrumental cases
What is the criteria for determining whether a song is instrumental, especially in the borderline cases? Has there been a Billboard article listing the instrumental chart-toppers? I only ask because it seems to me that "Theme from Shaft", by Isaac Hayes, is mostly an instrumental composition, with only some vocals towards the end of the track. - MrMosteiros (talk) 14:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect wording for second to last "Selected additional Hot 100 achievements"
Hi! The achievement listed second to last states: "Mariah Carey is the first artist to have a number-one single in four different decades after "All I Want for Christmas Is You" topped the chart in January 2020 for a third consecutive week. Previously, she had fourteen number-one hits in the 1990s, four in the 2000s, and "All I Want for Christmas Is You" starting its run at the top spot in December 2019.[211] Beyoncé later accomplished this with "Savage".[212]"

While the achievement is listed correctly for Mariah Carey, it is not listed correctly for Beyoncé. If you look at the article cited, Mariah Carey is celebrated for being the first artist to have number one hits in the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s. Beyoncé became the second artist to have number one hits in all three decades with "Savage". But Beyoncé did not have number-one singles in four decades, as the wording suggests. Her first number one hit was in 2003 with "Crazy in Love".

Please change the final sentence to one of the following options (or a variation of one that reads better for you): 1. Beyoncé later became the second artist besides Mariah Carey to have number-one singles in all three decades of the current century, accomplishing the achievement with "Savage".[212] 2. Beyoncé later accomplished this with "Savage"[212] if her work as a lead vocalist with Destiny's Child is included.

Thanks!!

--Tommymarx (talk) 20:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2020
The list of most Top 40's is outdated. Drake should be at 111. Nicki now has a 57 top 40's as of this week with Trollz and Chris Brown should be added to the list now with 50.

https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1273239692759248896?s=19 47.16.87.69 (talk) 12:53, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (not just a tweet). GoingBatty (talk) 00:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2020
The list of most Top 10 Singles has been updated to show Drake's count of 40, but the citation has not been updated. Please change the citation to this one, which I have formatted similarly to the current one:

tag at the end. Also note that your edit earlier was to a different table than the one in the request. Morganfshirley (talk) 21:16, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Selected additional Hot 100 achievement
Justin Bieber is the first artist in history to obtain new chart toppers in back-to-back weeks. Shouldn't this be added to the above mentioned section?, If so then someone add this.Jennythute678 (talk) 11:20, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Longest consecutive time inside the Hot 100
Shouldn't there be Post Malone inside the list for the "longest consecutive weeks inside the Hot 100" with (currently) 191 Weeks (Chart dated 5th September 2020)? He's consecutive on the charts since January 21st 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisisme1 (talk • contribs) 23:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source to back this information? Any content added must be supported by a reliable source. MPFitz1968 (talk) 02:13, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, I have a website (https://acharts.co/us_singles_top_100) and I skipped through every week since the beginning of 2017 and I've seen him every time inside the Hot-100 until now! When you type in ctrl+G you can search keywords in the website which is open, so this is working really fast, you can also see every Songs race in the Charts when you click on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisisme1 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2020
in downward movements should I add Nicki Minaj's Megatron since it dropped 72 spots from #20 to #92 Justdance2020f (talk) 20:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌ Looking at that particular category in the article, that is not enough of a drop to be ranked in the 10 biggest droppers on the Hot 100. Quite a few are tied with a drop of 73 places, which denotes 10th place right now (or a 7-way tie for 7th actually). For most categories, the top 10 is sufficient. (Even if I were to mention that you need to provide a reference that backs your statement, it would not be placed in the list for the reason I just gave.) MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:32, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request for Blinding Lights
In the cited article in the section [|Most Total Weeks in the Top Five].

"Blinding Lights" is listed as spending 28 weeks in the Top 5, based on a cited article published on Sept 21st 2020 (based on the Sept 19th 2020 Top 100 chart). Since then, Blinding Lights was listed in the top 5 one additional time on the 26th chart:

Shinramen1313 (talk) 18:54, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The cited article refers to the September 26th chart. Billboard's chart dates don't entirely line up with the time period they refer to.Sbb618 (talk) 20:25, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

How can a song with English in it be considered non-English?
I noticed that three songs listed in the non-English number ones were put as both English and Spanish. If it has English words, then how it be considered to be non-English because non-English means not in English, but the three songs listed are in English. Can someone explain to me, how a song in English can be considered non-English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Daihong Ly (talk • contribs) 02:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Willow Fall
In the section for Biggest Drop from Number One, I propose we add a note that mentions that Willow was charting the week of Christmas and thus the fall from number one was affected by seasonal hits peaking in popularity. No other song on the list was charting during Christmas week in it's second week, so the circumstances of Willow's fall should be noted since all non-holiday songs took a steep fall that week. I've tried to add this several times, but it keeps getting reverted without valid reason. TylerSkift24 (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I will continue to contend this is trivia and non-discriminate information. Why not make a case about the big drops from number one for songs like "Heartless", "Trollz", or even "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"?  For the latter one, I can't say why more than half a dozen number ones during late 1974 did this, all in the space of two months.  "Heartless" had a huge drop from number one in late 2019 (in fact, the first one-week drop out of the top 10 from number one in nearly 44 years ... early 1976) for the same reason you are citing - the holiday songs getting increased streaming and airplay, and taking up pretty high positions.  Somehow that song still registered performance gains in its drop from 1 to 17, and later returned to the top 10, a few months later.  I did not see performance gains registered on "Willow" according to the January 2, 2021 chart, and even with the Christmas songs discounted, it still would've made the "biggest drop from number one" list with a drop from 1 to 13, an even bigger drop than a lot of the late 1974 songs on the list had. You also say that every non-holiday song took steep drops.  Not true.  "Mood" is weathering pretty well, even with all the holiday songs on the list, at #7 (down two places from last week, and only five places since "All I Want for Christmas Is You" returned to the top on December 19).  And even one non-holiday song above "Willow" managed to make performance gains - "Levitating" by Dua Lipa featuring DaBaby, at #27 (which also registered no change in position from last week).  You will need to show that every non-holiday song suffered performance drops in airplay, sales, streaming, etc., disregarding actual chart rankings (which can sometimes be deceiving in terms of how much of a gain or loss in chart points occurred), and I already pointed out one such instance that there wasn't a performance drop. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:15, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree with Fitz's analysis. There's no reason why displacement by holiday songs should be considered special circumstances for steep drops, unless and until Billboard treats them as such - Drlight11 (talk) 21:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Willow takes the record for the biggest drop because it was both a sales-based #1, and it had to deal with Christmas. Most of the other songs on the list of biggest drops were also sales-based #1s. (Or more specifically, sales bundles, or intentional Twitter stan manipulation, but that's another story). Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 10:12, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Blinding Lights puts Weeknd on the map for longest run in Top 10
At 55 weeks and counting in the top 10, Blinding Lights is enough to singlehandedly given the Weeknd the third longest top 10 streak in Hot 100 history. I edited the page because it was literally inaccurate to leave it out, but it did ask for Talk Page discussion, so I wanted to see if there was more interest if we instead made a note of Blinding Lights streak but left it separate. Or we can wait and see if Blinding Lights departs the top 10 before Save Your Tears - if it does, Weeknd has a proper multisong streak and the argument is moot. - Drlight11 (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The edit you made was in the section for most consecutive weeks in the top 10, and "Blinding Lights" was out of the top 10 during a couple of weeks during the 2020–21 Christmas and New Year's time frame. (It actually wasn't even on the Hot 100 for one of those weeks.) None of The Weeknd's songs were in the top 10 during the aforementioned weeks, so his consecutive streak ended at that point, and a new one began once "Blinding Lights" returned to the chart. MPFitz1968 (talk) 22:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh my, I completely forgot that! This is not the first time I mistakenly thought Lights' run was consecutive.  Thank you for catching and correcting the error! - Drlight11 (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Kanye West has been on 8 Top 10 debuts? I think he's only been on 7.
1. Love Lockdown

2. Heartless

3. Swagga Like Us

4. Forever

5. Yikes

6. I Love It

7. Follow God

What would the 8th one be?

I'm probably just unable to figure out the answer. But I think there could be a very small chance that the article being sourced accidentally miscounted? Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 10:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * That's really weird, yeah. It's not just a typo from Billboard, either, since the word "eighth" in the source is spelled out. They're probably not counting We Are the World 25 for Haiti, since he isn't a credited artist on the single, and the source's total of 18 top 10s doesn't count it. I wouldn't change it right now, but it's something to keep an eye on. Sbb618 (talk) 21:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I even considered that the BB article may have been referencing something like Kanye and Jay being credited as "The Throne" on Pop Style. But that wasn't it either, because Pop Style only debuted at #16. Maybe there is a song akin to Sicko Mode where he has significant vocals, but isn't credited? I'm racking my brain right now. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

New Greatest Of All Time
I recently watched a video by Sailor Charts that updated the Greatest Of All Time chart and was wondering if his video can be used as a reliable source to edit the Wikipedia section. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikpceqEfpXQ Michael Daihong Ly (talk) 16:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)Michael Diahong Ly
 * The video qualifies as a self-published source, and does not meet the reliable source criteria set in WP:RS. At the beginning of the video, Sailor Charts says the formula they used to rank the songs is their own, and while they say it's based on Billboard's formulas, there's no clear way to verify that. So a clear no on it being reliable for the purposes of making any updates here. Better to wait until Billboard itself publishes an updated list. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I can personally tell you that the TOTC people, which Sailor Charts is a part of, are a very credible source, in terms of actual chart knowledge. However, they are not affiliated with Billboard in any way. Their estimates are likely to be off by one or two positions when Billboard finally publishes the updated lists. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 07:51, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

#1 in separate chart runs?
I suggest that there should be a section for records which reached #1, fell off the Hot 100 entirely, and then returned to #1 in a separate chart run. Currently there are only 2 of those: "The Twist" by Chubby Checker (1960, 1962) and "All I Want for Christmas Is You" by Mariah Carey (2019-20, 2020-21). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Why? That feels unnecessary; especially when it's just 2 songs BawinV (talk) 07:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

"List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one debuts" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one debuts. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 3 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MPFitz1968 (talk) 02:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2021
Drake now has the most songs to peak at #2, breaking his tie with Madonna and Taylor Swift (Best I Ever Had, Hotline Bling, Nonstop, Life is Good, Laugh Now Cry Later, Wants and Needs, Girls Want Girls) 130.15.239.100 (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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Request edit
change "Olivia Rodrigo is the first artist in history to debut their first two and first three singles inside the top 10 of the Hot 100. She achieved it with "Drivers License", "Deja Vu", and "Good 4 U"." to "Olivia Rodrigo is the first artist in history to debut their first two, first three, and first four singles inside the top 10 of the Hot 100. She achieved it with "Drivers License", "Deja Vu", "Good 4 U", and "Traitor"." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliviaisqueen (talk • contribs) 04:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * ❌ Please provide a reliable source that backs the change. Aside from that - while this looks on the surface to be true, "Traitor" was not a single at the time it debuted on the Hot 100 (that happened about two months later). Though in retrospect, it would end up true, as "Brutal" became a single as well a little later than "Traitor" (marking her fifth single, which fell short of the top 10 when it debuted). MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:21, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Foreign language songs to go #1
“My Universe” by BTS and Coldplay, which was #1 for five weeks, is part Korean and part English, so it should be included in that section of the article as well 2603:6010:C0F:AF39:CD09:344D:4E93:361 (talk) 22:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Just because a song has some lines in another language doesn't automatically make it a "foreign language number one", at least according to Billboard. Quoting them in an article from 2020: "Notably, the 20 top 10s below are sung entirely or mainly in a language other than English; the list does not include songs with portions in other languages, such as Enrique Iglesias’ 'Bailamos' or Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin’s 'I Like It.'" "I Like It" clocks in at about 60% English and 40% Spanish by time, and "My Universe", even removing the lengthy instrumental outro, is roughly 80% English and 20% Korean. Billboard has shown that a majority of the song needs to be performed in a language other than English, and "My Universe" is not. Sbb618 (talk) 06:06, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Songs
I think it is a good idea to include Michael Jackson's Thriller in the holiday song section, as it has made a regular recurrence on the charts in recent years JohnsonJ10 (talk) 01:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC).

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2022
Add Ronettes hold record for longest gap between top ten hits, with 58 years and 2 months from Be my Baby in 1963 to Sleigh Ride in 2022 Ry493gr (talk) 05:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Ariana Grande was credited for 47 weeks of Save Your Tears on the Hot 100. The original received 19 weeks before that. Please change that on the list of longest running Hot 100 songs. Clbjb (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Most TOP 10 SIngles / Songs - Plus Solo Efforts / Lead Artist / As Featuring Artist
Drake doesn't have over 50 TOP 10 SINGLES but TOP 10 SONGS.

I will explain the difference and why this should be taken into account.

Many of Drake TOP 10's are album tracks that peaked TOP 10 due to the album streaming as listening to an album on streaming now makes all tracks elligible to chart on Hot 100 and with streaming consuming increasing in this past 3 years this is making a huge misreading of these kind of stats. Some songs were even went out of Hot 100 the following week and were never released as singles (so only people that listen to the album listen to them).

Maybe there should be a distintion with aditional tables or an asterisc pointing it out.

I think that's relevant because both the changes in music consuming and Billboard chart rules. We should also talk about collaborations as we are in the era of collaborations now and artists are using them as a way to chart more hits and stay relevant on the charts more often.

Singles as lead aritst or featuring artist should also be differentiated - for example have solo efforts lists.

Looking at Drake as example as he is #01 on the list. Drake have had so far (June 2022) 27 singles as lead artist (37 songs when including 10 album tracks that charted TOP 10 also - all his other song entries are as featuring artist). As Solo effort Drake only had 16 singles that were TOP 10 and (19 when album tracks are taken also into account).

For comparation purposes of why this additional list should exist to show a more real view on their success (especially since Hot 100 rules changed so much along the years). Looking at the 2 following artist on the list:

'''Madonna have 37 singles solo efforts (and all her 38 Top 10 singles as lead artist) Beatles have 33 singles as solo efforts (and all their 34 TOP 10 singles as lead artists). ''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.94.21.149 (talk) 17:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)