Talk:List of British Chinese people

Naming
The standard for naming such articles is for the country of origin to be first and the country of destination to be second.

As such, 'British Chinese' should be used for people from Britain who becoame Chinese citizens. Then 'Chinese British' should be used for poeple from China who became British citizens. This would match nearly all other articles, lists, categories for such people. If this is not not done, what can people from Britain, now Chinese citizens be called? Thanks Hmains 16:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Every single British person (whether of chinese origin or not) uses the term "British Chinese" to denote British citizens of Chinese origin. The "standard" you talk about is only an American one.Shapiro-israel 08:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Nationality: British-Chinese
I noticed that the articles of some of the people listed here have "British-Chinese" as their nationality. I think it would be better to state their actual nationalities (in the sense of being a citizen of a certain country), eg British, Chinese etc. LDHan 13:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Please note in UK it is acceptable for people to have dual nationality, I am 100% British and 100% Chinese and 100% British Chinese. Chineseartlover 09:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you are using "Chinese" in its ethnic and cultural sense, not "Chinese" as in being a citizen of China, unless of course I'm mistaken and you do actually hold both Chinese citizenship and UK citizenship, although I'm not sure if that is legally possible. LDHan 19:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I was born in HK so I hold a HK passport which give me Chinese citizenship. I became a British Citizen after 1997 when i immigrated to the UK. UK allows me to have dual citizeship. So I can keep my HK passport. China although does not normally allow dual citizenship, made special provision to people of Hong Kong. Hong Kong citizen can use the british passport as a travel document if they choose to keep the Chinese nationality. Chineseartlover 03:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this article a good idea?
As I mentioned in a previous AFD, with about 200 countries in the world, lists like this are effectively impossible to maintain without getting very deep into systemic bias territory. - Richfife 02:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see the problem, the Chinese are the third largest visible minority in the UK. But there are notability problems with some of the names in the article, particularly the last lot of additions . LDHan 16:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it is a very good idea. While it is always important maintain houskeeping, it is equally important to generate contribution and submission of new and relevant data from a wide range of people from a wide range of source. Wiki's success rely on people submissions as well as a effective management of data. I did a quick scan of Wiki and see there are lot of LIST some base on race, some base on other common factors. Most are created because people feel a need to group them together. Regarding the notability of the names on the list, I think once they appear, it will then encourage other people to fill in the details of the new names and we will have a richer encyclopedia for reference. Chineseartlover 10:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

AfD consideration
One main disadvantage of this article is very much open to abuse looking at these redlinks what outnumber blue ones and has that editor made any effort to maintain this list.

As for my final judgement, as it is too much of an effort to maintain this list, I really am considering an AfD on this list as it is getting too list crufty, also it fails the WP:VERIFY criteria - one of these is linked to its own MySpace account (can this qualify as a 3rd party reliable source). Editors will need to considering the WP:WTAF, this is before I put this on AfD, which I am looking at next week unless somebody make any effort to make any changes. Donnie Park (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced entries
In light of this discussion, I've removed all of the unsourced entries from this list. I've pasted those removed below, as they appeared in the article, so that they can be restored if and when references are found. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also added a couple of entries with references that don't establish that the people are actually British Chinese. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Academia, science and technology

 * Edward Tsang, Professor of Computer Science in the University of Essex
 * Gregory B. Lee (利大英), First Vice-President (Deputy Vice-Chancellor), Lyon University, France; Professor of Chinese and Transcultural Studies; Director, International Institute for Diasporic and Transcultural Studies, Lyon University - Liverpool Hope University (Director, "Chinatown Project"); Editor, trilingual journal Transtext(e)s Transcultures
 * Kevin Fong, a leading expert on space medicine and co-director of the Centre for Aviation Space and Extreme Environment Medicine (CASE Medicine)
 * Gene Kan, the late pioneer of the file-sharing application, Gnutella, was originally from the UK

Art, design and fashion

 * Naomi Campbell, Afro-Caribbean model with Chinese descent through her paternal grandmother of Chinese Jamaican ancestry (family name Ming).
 * Jimmy Choo OBE, shoe designer
 * Chris Liu, fashion designer
 * Gok Wan, fashion stylist (half-Chinese)

Business

 * David Tang KBE, entrepreneur and founder of the designer label Shanghai Tang

Charity, community & voluntary sectors

 * Shun Au OBE, Chair and founder of the Chinese Mental Health Association

Film, actors and directors

 * Maggie Cheung (張曼玉), actress, Centre Stage, In the Mood for Love
 * Tsai Chin (周采芹) - actress, Blowup, The Joy Luck Club, Casino Royale (2006) and Chinese Bond girl in You Only Live Twice, sister of actor / restaurateur Michael Chow the owner of the Mr. Chow restaurant chain, Michael is also the father of actress China Chow,
 * China Chow, actress and model of Chinese, Japanese and German ancestry, daughter of Michael Chow and Tina Chow.
 * China Moo-Young, film, television and music video director of Chinese Jamaican and English ancestry.
 * John Foo, actor and Wushu master
 * Mona Hammond OBE, Chinese Jamaican actress and co-founder of the Talawa Theatre Company.
 * Sandrine Holt, actor (half-Chinese)
 * Burt Kwouk (郭弼), actor, The Pink Panther, You Only Live Twice
 * Pik-Sen Lim, actor
 * Pui Fan Lee, actor
 * Robert Lee, actor
 * Katie Leung, actor
 * Jane March, actor (quarter-Chinese)
 * Max Minghella, actor (half-Chinese)
 * Carl Ng, actor (half-Chinese)
 * Richard Ng, actor
 * Papillon Soo Soo, actor and model
 * Elaine Tan, actress
 * Benedict Wong, actor
 * David Yip, actor
 * Barbara Yung, actress
 * Zhang Tielin, actor
 * Rhydian Vaughan (鳳小岳), actor
 * Stephen Hoo (何天放), actor (half-Chinese)
 * Nancy Wu, actor

Journalists
FTChinese.com, FT's Chinese language website. He is also Fouinding Editor for FTRui
 * Lifen Zhang, Lifen Zhang is Associate Editor, Financial Times, and Editor-in-Chief,

Singers and musicians

 * Mutya Buena, singer-songwriter (quarter Chinese)
 * Vince Chong, singer-songwriter
 * Jason Lai, musician
 * Herman Li, guitarist for heavy metal band DragonForce
 * Rex Liu, bassoonist
 * Jason Lo, music artist, music producer, DJ and entrepreneur
 * Vanessa Mae, violinist, half-Chinese
 * Lisa Scott-Lee, singer
 * Matt Tong, drummer of Bloc Party, half-Chinese
 * KT Tunstall, singer-songwriter, quarter-Chinese
 * Jill Vidal, singer
 * Gay-Yee Westerhoff, cellist
 * Ozzie Yue (born Austin J. Yue in 1947), actor, guitarist and singer
 * Nancy Yuen, singer

Presenters

 * Alexa Chung, TV presenter, model (quarter Chinese)
 * Pui Fan Lee, children's TV presenter
 * Jasmine Lowson, TV presenter
 * Gabrielle Richens, born from British, Indian and Chinese descent although her parents are from South Africa
 * Sarah Tan, Channel V VJ and model
 * Ziya Tong, TV presenter and producer
 * Joseph Wu, TV and radio presenter

Food

 * Ching He Huang, chef and TV presenter
 * Nancy Lam, restaurateur and cook
 * Alan Yau, restaurateur and founder of Wagamama

Authors

 * Tash Aw, writer
 * Jung Chang, author
 * Leslie Charteris, author and screenwriter, best known for the books chronicling the adventures of Simon Templar, alias "The Saint."
 * Timothy Mo, author
 * Ma Jian, writer
 * Xiaolu Guo, author
 * Chiang Yee, author of the popular Silent Traveller books in London, Oxford, Edinburgh and the Lakelands that cast a humorous Chinese gaze on British life.

Playwrights

 * Benjamin Yeoh, playwright

Politics

 * Nat Wei, Baron Wei, philanthropist and member of the House of Lords, adviser on the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government's 'Big Society' programme
 * Michael Chan, Baron Chan, physician and member of the House of Lords
 * Lydia Dunn, Baroness Dunn, deputy chairman and senior non-executive director of HSBC (since 1992)
 * Anna Lo, social worker and Alliance Party Member of the Legislative Assembly (MLA) of Northern Ireland

Auto Racing

 * Alex Yoong, race car driver

Football

 * Sammy Chung, a former football player and manager, is half-Chinese
 * Hong Y. "Frank" Soo, was an England wartime international and manager of mixed Chinese and English ancestry

Rugby

 * Rory Underwood and Tony Underwood, former rugby union players, are both brothers and half-Chinese

Olympics

 * John Ian Wing

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Stunted
Is it just me or has this article been a bit harshly pruned? why have so many names been removed? Alexa Chung isn't on here and she's probably the most prominent ethnically Chinese British person I've heard of.

If a lot of them relied too heavily on one source wouldn't it have been more prudent to collect citations from the individual pages and add them to this one. It would be a good test of notoriety too, if they're notable enough to have their own page it's proof enough that they deserve a place on this list.

Simply culling every name the editor couldn't be bothered to source seems lax.Stripy tie (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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