Talk:List of British Rail Class 37 locomotives

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D6970 | 37270 | 37409 Loch Awe, has been renamed as Lord Hinton, this took place at the DRS TMD Gresty Road, CREWE, last year (2011) when DRS held it's Open Day. I do not know how to change this, so can somebody who konws how to do it, can they please change it. Many thanks, Graham Spencer 86.133.2.85 (talk) 15:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Done 1/8/12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murgatroyd49 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal
The merger proposal… These should probably be merged, as they are lists of the same locomotives. Not sure what the title should be; another option is List of British Rail Class 37 locomotives. Peter James (talk) 11:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * and discussion…
 * Support merge, with ultimate title as List of British Rail Class 37 locomotives as suggested. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and rename to List of British Rail Class 37 locomotives per both above and my comments about fleet lists at the related Articles for deletion/List of British Rail Class 47 locomotives. Thryduulf (talk) 18:23, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support merge, per other users' comments. EP111 (talk) 16:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Merging
I am in the process of merging these two pages via User:Murgatroyd49/sandbox2. I am intending to repeat the format of List of British Rail Class 47 locomotives. It will take a while so could I ask interested editors to hold off adding (or deleting material) directly but pass it to me for incorporation in the new version. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 12:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Now done, the next task is to add appropriate references. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Name references
I have added references for the names of many of the locomotives but my sources only go up to 1999. Could someone with more recent books help fill in the rest. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:03, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Why is this Class 37 fleet list factually incorrect?
I don't have an issue with the list being woefully outdated. That is nobody's fault. But there are some serious factual errors here, specifically when it comes "scrapped" locos. Apparently, 37607 is scrapped, but I was on it last month!

If I knew Wikipedia well enough to make these changes, without getting reverted for a lack of references (other than my own private photography), I would be happy to help. DAB (talk) 17:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you confirm it was actually 37607 and not another of the class temporarily renumbered? Also where was it when you were on it? Would help in trying to trace sources. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * When the British Rail Class 37 Fleet List was merged there were several with a grey background for "scrapped" but had "?" or "Preserved?" in the status column - according to class37.co.uk some were scrapped but there were a few possible exceptions. According to the workings pages 37607 and preserved(https://www.svrwiki.com/BR_Class_37_37688_Great_Rocks) 37688 have been in use this year, the last record of 37604 was last April (possibly stored), 37042 awaiting restoration (http://www.evr-cumbria.org.uk/motivepower.htm#37042, https://www.flickr.com/photos/188249803@N06/51247630585/ in 2021), 37037 preserved and was in use but now under restoration (https://www.southdevonrailway.co.uk/rolling-stock/locomotives/d6737-english-electric-type-3-br-class-37-37-037/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/115415956@N06/52304929912/ in 2022). There was also 37605, now scrapped according to Wikipedia - I couldn't find anything to say it has been scrapped but there is https://www.pressreader.com/uk/railways-illustrated/20220705/282007561084634 so it seems likely. Peter James (talk) 22:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The problem I had, when carrying out the merger, was finding reliable sources. Many of them, like class37.co.uk are WP:SPS or WP:UGC. DAB complains there are some serious factual errors, but only highlights one and has not bothered to answer my questions about it. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:03, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Follow up, I've updated those I can find reliable sources for. Still looking for 37607. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:59, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I was taking a break from my laptop over the long weekend...
 * I can answer for refurbished 37s (/4 subclass onwards). 37405, 607, 610, 612 are owned by HNRC and leased to Colas. Owned by DRS is 37401, 402 (for sale), 407, 419, 422, 423, 424, 425, 716. Owned by LSL is 37409, 667 and they also operate 688 from time-to-time. Owned by Steve Beniston is 37418 and 508 (former 606). WCRC also owns various 37/5s and 37/7s in operational and non-operational condition.
 * Alas, I can't give you references, other than the fact that I know the companies. DAB (talk) 19:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Trouble is we need references from reliable sources Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:15, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You're right, but looking back through the last six months of 'history', I can't see how 37607 ended up "scrapped" with no citation for it. DAB (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Must have been a carry over from the original merger. I've marked it as in service with a citaion needed tag. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2023 (UTC)