Talk:List of British banknotes and coins

Readability suggestion
The list of coins and notes on this page is fairly long and has a lot of equivalency and date information. Therefore, it might be much more readable to organize the list into a table. Perhaps the table should then be sorted by the value of the coin or note. Quillaja (talk) 23:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Quillaja (talk) 07:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I was hoping for something along the lines of this chart. Makes the data very clear. 37.123.174.195 (talk) 09:37, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Merge proposal
There are long lists of historical pre-decimal British coins at both Coins of the pound sterling and List of British bank notes and coins. I don't see any point in maintaining divergent lists in two different places. Therefore I propose merging the former to the latter (and, obviously, having a prominent link from one to the other). Does anyone see any good reason why this shouldn't be done? 86.150.102.93 (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. 86.140.130.144 (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup ideas
has been helpful to put the list of pre-decimal coins all in one place. However, I am not sure that here is the best place for it.

Here's why I am unsure:  This page is almost an orphan: most of its incoming links are from the British coinage template. I suspect the reason is that it is far from a complete list of either coins or banknotes. Should we move the constituent parts back to the parent articles? That is fine for banknotes, as the section is short and incomplete anyway.

The list of pre-decimal coins is quite lengthy, yet I think that it will still make a useful section in a comprehensive article on British coins. A few of the coins are not strictly coins of the pound sterling, but represent other archaic currencies such as the Anglo-Saxon English penny (see British one penny coin (pre-decimal)) and the Guinea (British coin). Should comprehensiveness and inclusiveness trump an absolutely strict classification?

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Ten shilling note = 1 Dollar
I am no expert on coinage or slang, but I remember "Ten bob notes" being commonly referred to as a "dollar", presumably reflecting it's approximate value of 1 US dollar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.74.75 (talk) 08:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it was the Crown (5/-) coin which was nicknamed "dollar". Until the immediate post-WW2 period, the pound was worth $4 US ($4.80 for a long time, as much as $10 during the American Civil War), and was still $2.80 until 1967. -- Arwel (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, definitely 5/-. The origin is quite old, from captured Spanish Dollars (pieces of eight) being overstruck and use as 5/- coins.  My uncle was a collector and showed me one overstruck with the head of George III.  The same coins would have been used in the American Colonies.  This is mentioned in the history of the dollar.184.66.110.161 (talk) 05:20, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Order
Perhaps this chart should be organized by date, rather than....not organized at all. --DMP47 (talk) 21:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

£1M and £100M notes?!
The article describes a one million pound and a one hundred million pound note but is fairly vague about them. Can we get an image of them for the article? These aren't actually IN circulation, but held in banks, right? --98.232.181.201 (talk) 08:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There really are one million pound notes, but they are not from 19th century, as the article states, but from 1940s and are connected to the Marshall Plan: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1914560_1914558_1914572,00.html (here you can see an image) --Jakas1 (talk) 11:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Double guinea in table
The table said: Two guineas or double guinea 	originally 40/-, later 42/- 	originally £2.1, later £2 The figures don't make sense as 40/- = £2 and 42/1 = £2.10. Based on the information here and in Two guineas (British coin), and since 1 shilling=£0.05 decimal I've changed it to be first £2 (40 shillings) then £2.10. --Nigelpackham (talk) 13:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Mite
Citation found http://www.tudorhistory.org/topics/coinage.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.159.17.137 (talk) 09:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm not sure of this as a source. Most other sources say it is the same as a quarter-farthing, and this page doesn't seem to refer to quarter farthings at all. I'm sure you would need a quarter-farthing in accounting. The Widow's Mite story in the Bible seems to saying that there was such a coin-or did the translator just use the word 'mite' because as it was a long time ago, such coinage could exist? Surely if you needed such a token it would be made. 92.20.154.34 (talk) 13:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

To add to the confusion, this dictionary says a mite was half a farthing. So we have claims of 1/2, 1/4, and 1/6 of a farthing. M-1 (talk) 04:26, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Upon further review, I think there may be no consensus on the value of a mite, or the word may have referred to different coins during different periods?

Like my last link, This book also says it's half a farthing:

http://books.google.com/books?id=8s52AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=english+coin+%22called+a+mite%22&source=bl&ots=NmrZl5vR1i&sig=vK657NXgTqkpPi5M8B5AKkpyVSc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jAkRT9jsOeOv0AGx-5iCAw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=english%20coin%20%22called%20a%20mite%22&f=false

This one says it's "about" a third of a farthing:

http://books.google.com/books?id=mWw3sbiCWtAC&pg=PT463&lpg=PT463&dq=english+coin+%22called+a+mite%22&source=bl&ots=1VhUxiJmoZ&sig=WPFfDxqUyR3YtIEafJCd_pAYcWc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jAkRT9jsOeOv0AGx-5iCAw&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=english%20coin%20%22called%20a%20mite%22&f=false

I think this is enough evidence to conclude that the article's decisive statement that a mite is unambiguously 1/6 of a farthing is incorrect, so I want to "be bold" and change it, but I'm unsure of exactly what it should say, for the moment. (BTW, I think all the Biblical stuff about mites isn't within scope of this article.) M-1 (talk) 05:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

2/14/5
Is there any reliable source that shows Lsd amounts without a preceding £? I'd be surprised - but it's 40 years ago now, so maybe memory deceives. Suggest modifying to £2/14/5, and also including £2/14/5d, 54s 5d and 54/5d. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct: amounts specifying the pounds would always use the £ symbol, moreover they would be written with hyphens rather than obliques, ie £2-14-5, sometimes £2-14-5d (or £2 14s 5d). Obliques were only used for amounts where the largest unit was the shilling; ie 54/5 (or 54s 5d); however the upper limit for amounts without pounds was typically 50/- (fifty shillings). -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

2/14/5 implies that the symbol / is just a separator, whereas I believe it represents a 'solidus' Latin for for the word shilling, (just as the £ is a fancy capital L for Libre, the Latin pound, and the d as an abbreviation of denarius, the Latin for penny.) Therefore the correct expression should be £2 14/5d, but more usually written as £2 14s 5d. I never saw a solidus after the number of pounds: that would have been nonsense. The absence of any pence would have been shown by a dash thus 5/- for five shillings, and 5/4d for five shillings and four pence. Dawright12 (talk) 10:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Scotland still issuing £1 notes?
The article states that the Royal Bank of Scotland still issues £1 notes. I am not sure if this is true. However, I haven't seen one for about ten years, so I think it is fairly safe to say they are NOT in general circulation even if they are being produced. If someone has time to do some research I think this would make a good clarification of this article? 46.208.140.43 (talk) 23:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Pre-decimal
In my youth in East London, when the coins were still in circulation and freely available, it was the "silver thrup'ny bit" that was called the "joey" - there was no 4d coins around then except for the Maundy Money. The fourteen-sided 3d it was still something of a novelty but had the distinct advantage of being far less easily lost. Dawright12 (talk) 10:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

The florin was commonly called a "two-bob bit". Dawright12 (talk) 10:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

500 pound coins
I came across this document of the Privy Council, which seems to suggest there are 500-pound coins. This doesn't seem to be mentioned or explained in the article. Am I overlooking something? effeietsanders 00:43, 22 February 2017 (UTC)