Talk:List of CSI: NY characters

Format Changes
I have made a number of changes to this page to increase clarity and reduce redundancy and also to bring it more in line with the equivalent pages for [CSI] and [CSI: Miami]. The changes made are as follows:

1) Removal of Text Detailing Main Characters : This section was redundant as each of the main characters has their own pages.

2)Ammended the Recurring Characters Section: Split into three separate sections of Crime Lab, Police Officers and Relatives and Friends. These sections are organised by the chronological appearance of each character.

3) Added Characters : I added Chief Sinclair as he has made 7 appearances (more than several of the others listed) and i also added Lucy Messer to the Relatives section.

4) General Updates : Updated various statuses of some of the minor characters and changed "Notable Villains and Serial Killers" to "Notable Villains", as the latter was redundant.

I did not shade any of the new sections to mark the characters as "no longer current" as apart from Adam Ross CSI:NY does not have a body of currently recurring Crime Lab techs in the way that the other shows do, meaning that the entire Crime Lab section would have been shaded. Wolsey01 (talk) 15:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Stella's last appearance
I have changed it from "The 34th Floor (Voice Only)" to "Vacation Getaway" as her voice isn't heard during the 34th Floor. thanks guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.21.19 (talk) 19:00, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Reed
When you're killed you're dead. And when you're dead you aren't alive. Why is Reed killed but still alive? Sly4nothing (talk) 23:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is probably stating the obvious, but Reed wasn't killed. His throat was cut in episode 4.20 "Taxi" but he didn't die, and his character returned in later seasons. 99.62.75.76 (talk) 02:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

New look
I really dislike the changes made to this page by Jane Rizzoli. In the first place, they are entirely unnecessary because all of the main characters have their own detailed page (many of the minor characters have a paragraph) and we don't need all this stuff here. This page is for a basic overview only. It's a list, not a book. Second, I think the design of the table is very ugly. (I realize this is just a personal opinion.) I've seen what she's done to the Vegas and Miami pages and don't like them either. What do others think? Jaguar766 (talk) 22:28, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I think, and I'm sure others will agree, that the article is now tidier and a lot better looking, not only because the tables are more orderly, but it also is now more visually striking because of the pictures. The paragraphs only explain character departures & arrivals, it saves people from visiting the nearly a dozen character articles, I too would like to see what others have to say on this matter. (Jane Rizzoli (talk) 22:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC))


 * There's good and bad here. The bad: This is supposed to be a list. Having text here defeats the purpose of the article as a portal to finding out more information about the characters.  The text is not organized in a way that makes it easy to find information about a single character&mdash;you have to read the whole thing. The good: the new table is more compact which generally makes things easier to read. Not having a running episode count means that it's always correct since the old format requires constant updating.  The order of entries is non-standard with Character|Position|Actor; most other articles I've seen have Character|Actor|etc. I like the color coding and it's pretty clear what it means (especially with the episode range also listed).  Not relevant to the appearance but for the content, I think having the first CSI:NY episode under "First appearance" is better than using the characters' first appearance in the CSI:Miami series&mdash;the list is about CSI:NY not CSI:*. So maybe some compromise/tweaking is in order? SQGibbon (talk) 16:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * CSI: NY on Wikipedia doesn't have to match CSI or Miami. They are three different shows with different colors, moods, and styles. Concerning the new format, I'm not fond of all the paragraphs at the beginning (and the pictures are not at all flattering). I also don't like the table format, too much bold seems like shouting. I mocked up an alternate of the table at my sandbox. I changed the colors to match those on the CSI: NY main page. I think it's a compromise between the old and the new. What do you think? Box99Tube (talk) 22:50, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I dig it. Clean and contains some of the useful additions from Jane Rizzoli and still matches the style of the rest of the page. SQGibbon (talk) 02:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't watch the Las Vegas or Miami CSIs and I don't follow their wikipages -- although I did look at them after reading this discussion -- so I don't care what is done to them. But I do care about NY. I don't think the three shows have to be uniform on wiki -- except for the franchise page -- and they could be completely different in style if people want. Also, Jane Rizzoli, wrote she changed the NY page to match the other pages, but since she was the one who changed the other pages in the first place, that's a circular argument.


 * About the NY characters page, I don't like the paragraphs in the regular cast section. All of this information is covered on the individual pages and just clutters things up here. And if it has to be kept, it will need to be rewritten, it's confusing.


 * About the table format, I like the original version much more than the current one. I agree that all that bold type is too strong. I don't like the colors at all. I would prefer the original version. However, after seeing Box99Tube's mock-up, I actually like it more than the original version. It seems like there is less wasted space. And I like Jane Rizzoli's idea of starting with "Blink" instead of the Miami episode. It still has colors but they seem less annoying to me and I actually don't mind the Duration column. There would still be a problem with the Episodes column being not always current, but either someone could be responsible for that -- not me -- or it could just be left blank -- except for Stella and Aiden -- until the end of the season. This will probably be the last one. However, I am just thinking of this table for the main characters only. In Las Vegas and Miami the format carried down to the recurring characters and I don't think it's necessary to change the other tables.


 * I think the mock-up table is a good compromise -- for the main characters only -- and I would vote for that. I would vote completely against the paragraphs at the top. Ducky Submarine (talk) 00:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, if we're voting, I vote to remove all the stuff at the top of the page and put it back to just a list. As for the table, Box99Tube's version is an acceptable compromise, so I'll vote for that. Now what? What are the rules here? Do we wait for more comments (is there a time limit) or does one of us just change the page? Jaguar766 (talk) 22:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It's been almost two weeks, I see no reason to wait. Since I designed the alternate table, I'll just change the page. Box99Tube (talk) 00:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

The "Status" column
FYI, the "Status" column has been removed from the page as it does not conform to the out-of-universe treatment standard for fictional topics. RAP was correct in noting that the page should be standardized (instead of simply removing them from the main character section) and so I have completed the cleanup. --Ckatz chat spy  16:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)