Talk:List of Cars characters/Archive 1

Lightning McQueen
The article states that the name "Lightning McQueen" was based in part on the name of a late Pixar animator. While this may be true, I seem to recall that the name was said to be based on the 1960s actor and racer Steve McQueen. I have not viewed the Extras on the DVD recently. Perhaps someone has already verified this? HealthySkepticism (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The film makers say in the commentary that they named the character after Glenn McQueen but that sounded suspicious to me (they didn't call him "Lightning Ranft" after all), like may they originally wanted to call the character "Speed McQueen" (which sounds better to me) but the Steve McQueen estate didn't like the idea. I came here hoping for more info myself. --Tysto (talk) 20:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Other possible models for Wingo and Boost
When I look at these models, I see Boost as a 90s Toyota Supra and Wingo and a Mistubishi Evo VII of VIII. The biggest nod I think is the rear tail lights on both cars. The Supra has very unique tail lights and Boost matches these perfectly, the same as Wingo, his rear lights are simular to the Evo's rear lights. Anyway, I'm not going to change the page unless I can get enough people to agree with me on this.

First race Official Car.
The track official in the first race, who goes to examine the finish tape while the SUV is telling everyone to go away, appears to be either a Mazda 323F (aka Lantis), or the Mazda 6 5-door. The taillamps lead me to believe the second one.MattA1GP 01:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Images
Could we try and get images for each of the cars? --WestJet 15:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be a great idea, to improve the article. -AMK152 20:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll try. --ANNAfoxlover
 * I've gotten a few pictures, but some of them are not very good. I've gotten GOOD pictures for the following cars: Lightning McQueen, Mack, The King, Chick, Sally, Lizzie, Doc, Mia, and Tia. How are they? ANNAfoxlover 22:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * "How are they?" That's a question we can only answer if we can see those pictures you have. -dogman15 21:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm a fanatic of this film. My computer at home (not this school computer) has a bunch of artwork and screenshots from the film. If you need a picture, I'm your man, but I'm still a bit aprehensive about all those copyright issues, if you know what I mean. -dogman15 21:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Seriously, may I add pictures of: (and I'd like an answer and/or vote)

Also, even though we don't need them here, I thought I'd say I also have pictures of Lightning's other paintjobs, Ramone's other looks, Hamm, the Abominable Snowman, Mike and Sulley, a tractor, a night picture of Frank, young Mater, Buzz and Woody, and (for the Doc Hudson or Fabulous Hudson Hornet articles,) Doc in his old racing paintjob. And yes, I did get most of these from the official website. I will not be offended if you vote against this, but if you guys say it's okay, I'll have a lot of uploading to do. WestJet, AMK152, and ANNAfoxlover are the main Wikipedians who are with this. Will this be too much of a copyright nightmare? Should this happen? (And yes, I do have pictures of all these characters, plus a plethora of regular screenshots... -dogman15 05:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Leakless #52
 * 2) Mario Andretti #11
 * 3) Nitroade #28
 * 4) RPM #64
 * 5) Fred (BTW, I have two pictures of him: official, and screenshot from Rust-eze tent. Which one?)
 * 6) The Rust-eze brothers
 * 7) Darrell and Bob (announcers)
 * 8) Kori Turbowitz
 * 9) Michael Schumacher
 * 10) Mrs. The King
 * 11) Tex (Also two pictures, like Fred. Which one?)
 * Okay that's it. It's been almost 24 hours, and even though I didn't warn you, no one's responded. I'm going to upload these pictures (you may delete them later if you wish), and substantially improve this list-class article. -dogman15 03:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and ANNAfoxlover, what about all the pictures you have? -dogman15 03:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Please respond to this question: Do we already/still have pictures of DJ, Boost, Wingo, and Snot Rod? Or were they deleted? Either way, I think their pictures should also get back into this list-class article. As you'd expect, I have these pictures on my computer, but I am cautious to upload them without further consent. -dogman15 04:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I would first like to know where you got the images with the white backgrounds from. They look great! I think you deserve a Photographer's Barnstar! Would you sign my signature book here, please? Where did you find those images? They're amazing! A•N•N•A foxlove r       PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE!  18:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As much as I would love to receive a barnstar, I don't think I deserve that. All of the Cars pictures of characters with white backrounds can be found at the official site. Main characters have movie set backrounds instead of white. I first copied all of my contributed pictures to My Pictures folder. Then I put them into "/Pixar/Cars/Movie Srcreenshots" or "/Car Artwork". I have tons more pictures than what I've given to Wikipedia, but I don't know if they're neccessary for the purpose of articles here. -dogman15 00:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Re-Volting Car
The Re-Volting car is a #84, because I have "The Art of Cars" and it has unshaded rendered models of the other racecars, the Re-Volting car has an 84 on it, like the Apple Computers car.

Just a reminder that there is a #74 car that is yellow, it is the one that has the camera mounted on his back that McQueen looks into. --Imax80 22:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Pixar Spoofs?
This entries in the list of characters:


 * Woody = Ford Woodie wagon
 * Buzz Lightyear = Toy Spaceship Car
 * Flik = 1966 Volkswagen "Bug"
 * Mike Wazowski = Isetta
 * Sulley = Monster Truck
 * Abominable = Snowplow Snowcat
 * Hamm = small SUV
 * P.T. Flea = Unknown Car

Are they correct? I'll see the movie again. I don't remember them. Arabigo 12:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As I recall, they were at the end (maybe during the closing credits) when the film's characters were at a drive-in or some such, watching what was essentially a recreation of these characters (complete with original voices) as if they had been performed by cars instead of toys, monsters, etc. Wahkeenah 13:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Reorganisation?
I think this article could do with some reorganisation. I propose we arrange it like this:


 * Rust-eze Team
 * Lightning, Mack, Harv, Rust-eze Brothers
 * I don't think Doc should be considered part of it, because that's a spoiler.
 * The King
 * Chick Hicks
 * Possibly Mia and Tia?
 * Radiator Springs population
 * All twelve cars still in Radiator Springs, and possibly Stanley
 * Frank and the Tractors
 * The Delinquent Road Hazards
 * Piston Cup Cars
 * Other Race Cars
 * Announcers
 * Officials
 * Reporters
 * Fans (Merge with Motorhomes)
 * Mia and Tia here if not above
 * Other Cars
 * Merge Superstars, SUVs and Other
 * Pixar Spoofs
 * Characters only seen in the games?

The misc section with fantasies/off screen characters should be removed.

I also believe we should minimize, wherever possible, specualtion about what model a particular car is.

What are your thoughts? Should I do this? RMS Oceanic 18:34, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * NO!!! PLEASE, NO!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! NO!!! ANNAfoxlover 22:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Scion?
Is DJ a Scion? He IS a bit boxy, but I doubt he's a Scion. The headlights are different, the body is angular and less boxy than an xB, it's a two door, the height is too short, and the wheelwells are impossibly big to be a Scion.

Instead, I believe he might be a 93 Honda Civic SiR II. Look at a 93 Civic and compare to DJ. The cars are almost identical.

I vote to change his classification.

Also posted in the disscusion section of The Delinquent Road Hazards.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.18.110.233 (talk • contribs).

Have you ever heard of factory models being MODIFIED into race cars? Same thing here. I've looked at it close, and DJ is close enough to a Scion xB such that we need not be too concerned about it. BTW: MODIFIED Corvette is often cited as Lightning McQueen's source, but my son says it resembles more a Dodge Viper. I agree with him, but I'm not too concerned if anyone else wants to see Lightning as a modified Corvette. Rpaltza 21:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Rpaltza

Boost and Wingo
I'm not sure about the current classifications. To me, Boost looks more like a modified newer-model Viper, especially if you look at the taillights and the angular shape of the headlights. Wingo also resembles a Mid-90's Civic more than a Silvia S15, to me. T1g4h 04:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that boost is for sure a 2007 dodge viper. I think that wingo looks like a modified scion tc.

One P.T. Flea Car, Many Voices
The credits at the movie info sites (c.f. http://www.hollywood.com/movies/fulldetail/id/1750902 ) list about 40 people as voices for the P. T. Flea Car, including John Ratzenberger. Can anyone explain this, and should the article include the explanation if it is of interest? Carboncopy 15:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have two guesses -- humorous outtakes or special feature on the DVD where various crew members recite P.T. Flea's lines to the film animation, or a clerical error where "miscellaneous voices" all got credited as P.T. Flea Car for some reason. I think it's fairly likely that forty people weren't all credited as P.T. Flea Car in the theatrical credits.  Powers T 15:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Miscellaneous
Okay, seriously, it features only two cars, neither of which are even seen in the movie, and are only mentioned, what, once? Do we -really- need this section? T1g4h 13:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. I've removed it twice already. Consider this number three. RMS Oceanic 14:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Right-o. I'll be on the lookout in case it gets re-added then. T1g4h 14:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Concerning spelling typos: I have noticed that the text uses the word "bares" when the proper verb "bears" should be used, such as: "#__ car BEARS a resemblance to ..." Please edit the text accordingly. Thank you. Rpaltza 20:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)Rpaltza

Car Exhibitionism
Way down in the section part for Mia & Tia it reads: in fact they look like McQueen and ( in one of the most risque moments of the movie) show him their "headlights" (a common euphemism for breasts) when they meet him,; is this even verifiable? I highly doubt that the headlight-breast thing was intended (much less thought of) by the writers. Furthermore since they are seen booing/abandoning Chick Hicks at the end, it sounds to me that Mia & Tia have social standards and wouldn't resort to "boob-flashing" (pardon my french). That and my long ramble said, should this be removed? -WarthogDemon 01:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. dogman15 21:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Getting Rid Of Gender
I am currently getting rid of "he" "his" and what not in the list of car racers, whom we don't know the gender of. Granted, all the racers COULD be male, but there's no evidence that suggests that they are indeed all male. -WarthogDemon 20:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * On the contrary; they are all male. Male cars have eyelids separated by notches; females have curved eyelids. All of the racers are male.
 * That would make Mater a girl. -WarthogDemon 04:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nonsense; Mater's eyes are separated by a notch just like any other male. For further identifiers, male's eyelids are occasionally different heights, and all females have black eyeliner. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.224.53.218 (talk) 03:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Exactly. You guys nailed it on the dot. Male and Female cars have different eyes. :-) -dogman15 21:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'd refrain from calling it "eyeliner". The way girls' eyes look it merely the Pixar's artists' way of rendering the eyelids, to distinguish. -dogman15 05:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

That yellow and blue car
Here is one car you have forgot to mention in this page, at the start there is a stock car racer that has a yellow and blue color scheme that resemble Dale Earnhardt's Wrangler Jeans sponsored Chevrolet Monte Carlo of his early days, and in the film it was involved in a multi-car pile up. Trouble is I can't input much information of this car as I have already taken the DVD back to the video store, so thats all I can mention, feel free to mention that if you have more info. Willirennen 17:08, 3 January 2007 (utc)

Delinquent Road Hazards section needs rename
That title is a fan created neologism that never appeared in the film and is really not suitable for an encyclopedia. Tagged for WP:OR. It needs another name.--Isotope23 21:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * ...and pertaining to Wingo, I removed the model section as original research. Who is debating this?  You either need a reliable source that establishes the model, or it should be stated that "Wingo has an appearance similar to a Japanese import vehicle".--Isotope23 21:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * How so? It is mentioned in the video game at least.  And I think *I think* I heard the Sheriff mutter the phrase under his breath during the movie (though I admit I could be wrong about that part.)  At any rate, this shouldn't be considered Original Research.  Though perhaps there should be an opening sentence stating that the name comes from the video game. -WarthogDemon 23:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In the videogame it refers to a board, not specifically to these characters as a group. I don't remember that part from the movie either, though I don't have a copy in front of me.  That's the problem here, outside of Wikipedia, mirrors, and fan sites there are no reliable sources that refer to these characters by that name.--Isotope23 01:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am fully aware of Delinquent Road Hazards not being their official name, but in the absence of a collective name, what do you propose? I wrote in their individual article that the name is taken from the game, and is only used to identify the gang. RMS Oceanic 11:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have a good suggestion off the top of my head, which I why I posted this here. Leaving it with a neologism name that is unsourced isn't a good idea, but I'm open to discussion about what it should be named instead.  Perhaps an request for comment would be helpful.  The individual article on these characters was deleted because the concept of these characters as a group with this name couldn't be reliably sourced.--Isotope23 14:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * "The Delinquent Road Hazards" was a name given to DJ, Wingo, Boost, and Snot Rod, by Pixar employees AFTER the movie came out in theaters. ANNAfoxlover 22:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Can this actually be reliably sourced?--Isotope23 03:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

If Pixar officially refers to the tuners as "The Delinquent Road Hazards", I'd say it's acceptable. I can't find any reliable sources in which they do, though. If not, could we refer to them as "The Tuners"? --VW Xikaze (talk) 04:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

CHIBI and other facts
CHIBI - She is far from MAZDA AZ-1, the coupe car with wedged styling and gullwing doors. She rather look like AUTOZAM REVUE (MAZDA 121) if to pick from MAZDA lineups.

DJ - I know a better look alike than SCION XB. I recommend JDM HONDA S-MX which is boxy, have three door body type, grill less faced and small. It targeted youth just like XB.

There are also some more informations that the page should have.

PISTON CUP is fought by 43 cars. (MCQUEEN says there are 42 losers.)

Number 74 Sidewall shine - He had the hip live camera in DINOCO 400.

The boy - Little one waving toy plane at the tie break race, is a rare sample of "child" car. Two cars on both sides of him may be his parents, as the boy's purple color is the mixture of those two. (red + blue)

The director - He is the person that found HUDSON HORNET in the circuit and cued cameras and announcers to pick.

PISTON CUP letter cars - The cars that formed alphabets on tie break race.

Okay, first, we never see the doors, so it is imposible to tell if it has gullwing doors or not. Second, Honda never made an S-MX.Hondasaregood 22:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Honda did make S-MX, I have picture of it here. http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1996/images/smx_lowdown.gif

Also, The CHIBI car is in NO WAY an AZ-1, its rear is a vertical, upright area, which means hatchback. Also, the AZ-1 has black a-pillars, and a glass/black roof, which the Japanese Reporter doesn't have. http://www.jcars.ca/photos/mazda_az1.jpg MattA1GP 01:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * "We never see the doors," is false, I believe, because the cars in the film do have doors, but they are never used as there are no humans in this universe. -dogman15 21:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Governator, Arnie or not?
This page claims at one point that Arnold Schwarzenegger voiced the Hummer "Governator", but later claims it was an uncredited impersonator. Can't be both. Fjbfour 12:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Since we don't know for certain, I think we can only say that he's obviously styled after Schwarzenegger. RMS Oceanic 21:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Who voiced the Governator in the Disney/Pixar film Cars?

A Arnold Schwarzenegger

B A Pixar animator's imitation of Arnold Schwarzenegger

C A Disney person's imitation of Arnold Schwarzenegger

D Me

What is your final answer? (NO LIFELINES LEFT!!!)


 * My final answer is...A.

YOU'RE A MILLIONAIRE!!! $$$ ANNAfoxlover 23:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Care to provide some proof of that? Without proof, we can't make that claim. RMS Oceanic 09:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It can't be Arnie cause once he became the Governator of Cali, he couldn't be in any more movies. pdas1996 17:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Says who? It's not like there's a law against sitting governers being in movies or anything; it's just that they're usually too busy to do so.  It's not beyond the realm of reasonable possibility that Shwarzenegger could have made a brief cameo (Dan Qualyle had a cameo in Major Dad and Al Gore had a cameo in Futurama, both while sitting vice-presidents; if VPs can do it, why not governors?).  24.8.252.164 (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Motorhome Voices
The article claims that Mater Keever does the voice of McQueen's Biggest Fan and that Larry Benton does the voices of Yahoo and Right. It's the other way around. Mater does Yahoo and Right, and Larry does the Biggest Fan. In the "inspiration" documentary, we see them both. Keever has a Southern accent, Benton doesn't. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.59.60.173 (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

DRH Pictures
The pictures did exist, then they were gone when their characters' article was deleted. Now I'm wondering if the pictures still exist, but since no one seems to be responding to me for three days straight, I guess I'll just re-upload their pictures from my database. Thank you and goodnight. -dogman15 05:17, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Notablitiy Of Video Game Characters By RobJ1981
"video game exclusive content isn't notable in this case. A one time game that didn't even sell very well (like most movie-based games)." (Edit summary quote by User:RobJ1981.)

It's a rather big section, and shouldn't be deleted without discussing it first. I went ahead, and brought it back, and put an Unencyclopedic tag on the section. Let's discuss. -WarthogDemon 00:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Not Chuck
Could his name be "Not Chuck"? Because in one scene, he was shouting to McQueen, saying "MY NAME IS NOT CHUCK!" Could he be saying that his name is "Not Chuck", or is he saying his name is not "Chuck"? He is referred to in the credits as "Not Chuck". Oh, well. I'm confused. What's your opinion? A•N•N•A foxlov e  r  St. Patrick's Day 2007 20:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I say his name is not "Chuck". -dogman15 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Mrs. The king
mrs. the king is eerder een Chevrolet station wagon (1972) en geen town and Country (1942)! Tom Baartmans 9 years Holland —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.80.21.32 (talk) 15:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC). A friend of mine pointed out the similarity between "Mrs. The King" and a late '60s or early '70s Mercury Grand Marquis wagon. I believe there is a pretty strong similarity here: note the hidden headlights, the shape of the greenhouse, and the line at the top of the rear doors just below the window glass: http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1972_Mercury_Marquis.html

When I was growing up a friend's father drove a '69 Mercury wagon, it had chrome along the top of the fenders and somewhat smaller door handles than those on the '72 picture linked - just like "Mrs. King".

While it makes sense that the Petty family would have been tooling around in a Mopar of some sort in the early '70s, I don't think Mrs. King is a Town and Country. Note the different lines in the back door, exposed headlights, and more rounded tailgate area: http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1973_Chrysler_TownCountry.html

Mrs. King is definately not a '72 Chevy, my neighbours had one of these when I was growing up and they are quite different: http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1972_Chevy_Kingswood.html. One of the most distinctive features of these cars is the unique power operated "clamshell" tailgate, which is extremely cool, but looks quite different to "Mrs. King"... Djmorris 19:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Protection
Why is this page being semi-protected? It doesn't have much information and the sections need to be expanded. I think this article should not be protected. A•N•N•A foxlove r   hello!  18:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture Genocide
I believe this revision was very strange. Why would TTN just get rid of most of the pictures? He said, and I quote: "The fair use policy states that FU pictures must actually contribute to the article. These certainly don't." I worked hard to upload many of those pictures, and I also think the left-right staggering was artistic page design. Who here thinks that these pictures should come back? -dogman15 18:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I! The only problem is that the pictures needed to be arranged in a better way. I say, bring back the images, but move all images to the left, but make them smaller. A•N•N•A   hi!  18:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * How exactly does a picture of a thirty second character (i.e. the Elvis car) help this article? Every character does not need a picture. The secondary characters should be the only ones to need them. Characters with main articles also do not need them. Nemu 19:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not every character needs its own picture, but it would help. This article is just poorly written, and I am (probably) the only one working on it. For now, let's keep the images, because they are useful. If you have the images, you do not need to make a long description of what they look like. This article is useful, but still needs work. Let me work on it for at least three weeks, and then we'll start removing things from it. But right now, the article is in need of some major cleanup, so please do not remove any images right now, because they help a lot. A•N•N•A   hi!  19:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Or, how about you increase the size and point of the sections first, making the need for pictures actually exist? At this point they fail points three, five, and eight (and probably ten) of the Fair use policy. Nemu 19:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Radiator Springs Populace
There is very little information in this part of the article. The cars in Radiator Springs, New Mexico, are the main characters of the film. Anyone, please add more information to the Radiator Springs Populace section. Thanks! ;-) A•N•N•A   hi!  19:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Ka-chow!

Merge?
Do any of these characters really need articles? In their current state, most of them are either very small or filled with pointless junk. With that and being one movie characters, most likely none of them will ever reach Good Article status. I would suggest merging them to this article, so at one point it could be like Characters of Final Fantasy VIII. Nemu 19:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've expanded the Radiator Springs Populace section with more information on the cars, so I would now suggest deleting all the characters' articles and merging them here, but keep the Lightning McQueen article. How is the new info? A• •F•O•X   ¡u6is  ''April Fool's Day 2OO7 16:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll merge them after I see if my recent change is going to stick. There is no reason to include every single speaking character (some aren't even characters). They can possibly be merged into paragraphs similar to the Pixar cameos. If these stay, this page will remain forever crufty. Nemu 22:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please do not merge them without coming to a consensus to do so. This article will only become more bloated if you merge every character as you have with other films. Thank you. Rhindle The Red 12:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, whatever you do, please don't do it yet. I'm still working on it. <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  13:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (To Red) I'm definitely going to go ahead and merge them in a little bit. You don't seem to realize that dealing with a bunch of fictional characters is different than other articles (though nothing official dictates that). And, you know, I have a crazy idea: If we don't want the article to be bloated, why don't we actually list characters instead of every single thing that has a name or appearance? To be listed here, a character should have actual significance in the story. Elvis RV is not a character; he is a gag. Most of the racecars are not characters; they are placeholders given little details or quirks for people to point out.


 * (To Fox) You are fine with the merger of all of the characters (besides McQueen), right? Nemu 16:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please propose your mergers according to policy and wait an appropriate amount of time before taking action. If consensus is merge, fine.  I am telling you right now that without the use of the "merge" tag and a viable amount of time for discussion, I will revert any changes you make. Rhindle The Red 18:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Once again, I ask you to think logically. While the policies and guidelines are here for a reason, there are exceptions. There were various long Sonic the Hedgehog character articles about minor characters. They were used often, and most were fairly long. I used merge tags for those due to that. Besides Mcqueen, none of these are like that. They are all stubs (after taking away unsourced trivia and stuff) about supporting characters from one movie that should have started here before becoming articles.


 * It is fine for us to discuss here, but there is no point in delaying the inevitable. You must know that these characters fail notability, have no real attributable sources, ect. To say otherwise, and demand strict accordance to policy (which I don't think we have a true policy on) is "silly." Nemu 19:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am asking you to consider that you may be wrong about the notability of these characters. Since there is obviously at least one person who disagrees with you, why circumvent the process just because you "don't feel like it"? You say I am "delaying the inevitable".  I say it's not inevitable at all.  I say, let the community do its job and don't act in such a high-handed manner, assuming your opinion is the only possible outcome. Rhindle The Red 20:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not wrong about it at all. I have merged enough articles to be able to see this. I considered I could be wrong with the Sonic characters as they do have some sort of notability compared to these characters. These are one movie characters that should be here according to WP:FICT. They have no attributable sources as the only info they can possibly have is junk, OR, and a plot summary (again, sole plot summaries are against WP:FICT). I asked a few knowledgeable admins a while back, and they said this kind of thing can be fine. This was discussed briefly on the film project a little while ago.


 * There is all that against these articles. That's why I find this kind of thing pointless. Besides you, fox, a couple of casual editors, and some fanboys, who will actually comment on a merge? This will leave a fairly biased keep, which will not stick in the end. Nemu 20:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:FICT actually states: "Major characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be covered within the article on that work of fiction." (In this case, Cars (film), not this list.) "If an encyclopedic treatment of such a character causes the article on the work itself to become long, then that character can be given a separate article." This would apply to many of the characters you are talking about merging.  It also says that "Minor characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be merged with short descriptions into a "List of characters." This list should reside in the article relating to the work itself, unless it becomes long, in which case a separate article for the list is good practice.", where several of these characters probably belong. (Mia and Tia, for instance.) Rhindle The Red 21:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The first part applies if the character is actually notable, and has the required info for an article. Really, if you go according to the second part, the list should come before the main character articles. Nemu 21:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No merge- The articles are too large and of high importance. They cannot be merged. I suggest you keep this page for a list of minor characters from cars which only have about two lines of information! Not characters which have about a page and a half of information and are proper articles. Whoever keeps requesting to merge all the cars articles better stop it. Because it is annoying. Retiono Virginian 21:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You have no argument. Nothing shows that these characters are important past the movie. The infomation they have is mostly junk anyways. Get an argument that is not covered here. Nemu 21:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Retiono Virginian. -dogman15 23:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am supporting and am perfectly okay with the merge, other than Lightning McQueen, who should have his own article. Support <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  21:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If the arguments for merging are supported, it would include all characters, including Lightning. There's no justification for removing, say, Sally and leaving Lightning alone.  Here's my take: as stated at WP:FICT, the major characters need to retain their individual pages.  The only other legitimate course of action would be to merge them back into Cars (film), which is not viable.  To me, the major characters include Lightning, Mater, Sally, Doc and Chick Hicks.  These are the characters that drive the story and the characters' development.  Obviously minor characters that need to be merged are Mia and Tia and Mrs. the King, none of whom have any significant impact on the film.  I'm less sure about the town residents (Sarge, Fillmore, etc.), but as they are really just there for color, I lean towards merging for them.  I'm even more unsure about The King, since he is a focal point in the film, so I lean toward retaining his page. Rhindle The Red 02:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You're following the points too literally. The main character one assumes that the characters have enough information to write about. With merging, it's obvious it would goto this list because it's techincally just an extention of where it would be merged in the movie article. Before these characters need articles, they need to have information besides a plot summary and basic cruft (unsourced trivia, the name in different languages, the different colors that it had, ect). They should be merged to this page with the chance to come back once their sourced out of universe information would be enough to warrent a page. Nemu 10:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It assumes nothing. It says what it says.  You are putting your own spin on it, choosing to ignore what it says to support your argument.  The main characters need articles now because they are too big for the main page and do not belong on the list.  There is nothing in the guidelines to support your statement. Rhindle The Red 11:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's assuming the character has proper encyclopedic treatment. None of these articles are like how that says they should be. It's obvious when they say merged with the article, they also mean a character list. A character list is a break off article, meaning it's still part of the original in a way. Would you like me to ask on the talk page there? I think it's pretty obvious what the answer will be. Nemu 16:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think it assumes anything of the sort. You seem to think that just because they do not now have fully encyclopedic articles that that is a reason to merge them.  It is not.  That would be a reason to help improve them and bring up their standards.  And if they meant for major characters to be moved to a list, I think that they would say so.  Instead, they clearly indicate that major characters get their own articles and minor ones go on a list.  Go ahead and ask wherever you want.  I think you're mis-reading things. Rhindle The Red 17:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's where this discussion comes in. We have to decide if these articles are destined to become good or stay trashy/a plot summary. My argument is that they've been around for a long enough time without any true improvement. Any info they do have can easily be summarized and placed here. If they meant that only minor characters go on lists, why exactly do we have them here (I guess I'll go ahead and ask)? Nemu 17:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Why they're here I can't say. I didn't create the article, nor had I delved deeply enough into Wikipedia policy previously to have realized they shouldn't be here prior to this merge discussion.  Had I been cognizant of that beforehand, I would have removed them and renamed this article List of minor Cars characters. Rhindle The Red 17:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you look at the featured list and article that I've posted, you'll see that they do keep the main characters. It shows that you are reading it too literally. If you're going to format your post, can you actually keep the flow going? Nemu 17:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because another list has the main characters doesn't mean they're right to be there. Frankly, the policy as stated makes sense.  If a character has his own page (as a major character should) there would be no need for a duplicate listing on another page.  And as for keeping "the flow" going, as we creep closer and closer to the right side of the screen, it makes the conversation harder to follow, not easier. Rhindle The Red 18:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The main characters are here because they're comprehensive lists. That's the point. The guideline can be wrong as it's edited by users, so that makes it easy for things to not be clear (as I've said). You keep the flow going until it goes too far over (like this one probably is). There is no point if it's all over the place. Nemu 18:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This seems to have died... For now, does anyone care if I merge all besides McQueen, Mater, Sally, Doc, and Hicks? Nemu 21:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, I went ahead and did it. It doesn't seem like there were any true issues with them. Now, why do those five characters really need articles? Nemu 01:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Because they are the major characters of the work and will not fit on its article. Rhindle The Red 23:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How would they not fit here? Mater, Sally, and Doc really have nothing. After cutting the junk, they have about the same amount of info as the recently merged ones. Hicks and McQueen only have plot summaries which are rather pointless. It easier to have them here, and just have the basic descriptions, quick description of their roles, and any OOU info (base for design, ect). Any deep plot info would already be taken care of in the main article. Nemu 00:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Really, do you have anything new to add? You've not made your case and just keep saying the same thing over and over again.  You say something is "junk", but never explain how.  You say there can't be any sources ("the only info they can possible have is junk"), but never say why.  Can't you accept the compromise as it stands and move on? Or are you going to keep at it until I grow so weary of arguing with you that I let you get your way without comment?  I was away for two days dealing with the real world and look what heppened.  You waited a whole, what, four hours between your "This seems to have died" comment and going ahead and merging the articles?  There is nothing going on here that has to be done in such a rush, you know.  We can take our time to do things right. But that doesn't seem to be your style. Rhindle The Red 02:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure I've made the definition of junk clear. It includes OR, speculation, trivia sections, fancruft, random sections like "International versions", ect. I saw no real point in sticking with my message after rereading your comment saying that only the major characters needed to stay. At that point, I had thought your opinion was to keep all of them. We can take our time, but we shouldn't take forever.
 * Okay, trivia is not junk in and of itself. Trivia needs to be more properly integrated into an article, but just because it is in a trivia section doesn't make it junk.  OR is, of course, junk and no one is asking for it to stay.  But I didn't see a lot of it in these articles.  I didn't really comment on your removal of the "international" stuff, but I don't really get why you think of it as junk.  If you can back that statement up (somewhere else where it was considered junk) I'll go with you on that.  You seem to misunderstand my position a lot.  Perhaps if you weren't so hasty, you could take the time to understand what's being said before going ahead. Rhindle The Red 03:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So far, there is no compromise. You have not shown why the characters need articles besides "they're major", which is not a valid argument. You should show that these can actually reach at least GA status in the future. Nothing has backed that at this point. Nemu 03:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * And you have not shown why they should be merged. My point is a valid argument.  As I have stated before, it follows the guidelines set forth in WP:FICT.  If that's now a valid argument, I ask you what is?  I know you don't agree with my reading of the guidelines, but please do not insult me by dismissing my statements as "not valid".  As for the compromise I mentioned, That was what I suggested and what, at this point, you have implemented: keep the major character articles, as indicated by WP:FICT, and move the rest to the character list.  It seems perfectly reasonable to me and I can't for the life of me understand why you aren't able to see that.
 * Again, I'm going to point out to you that there is no reason to assume that better articles for these characters are impossible. You seem to think that just because they are not up to the highest standards right now, they never will be.  I suggest that you just leave the appropriate tags (trivia,citations,etc.) and leave them to others to fix, as it is clear you do not know the subject matter well enough to fix them yourself. Rhindle The Red 03:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The part about major characters on WP:FICT assumes the characters actually have info (as shown by the small comment under the minor characters part, and the question I posted on the talk page). There is no point in leaving these articles as they are in their current state. That is why your point is not valid. Along with being major, you have to show that they require pages. They are not notable past the movie, they don't exist past the movie, and the movie is pretty much their only source.


 * These articles been around for about a year with little improvement in regards to actually becoming good articles. Leaving tags will do little at this point; they'll do little to help, and just remain there for a while. It's better to merge them here, and if they ever do become too large with relevant and sourced info, the pages can be brought back. Nemu 03:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, the answer to your question actually supports my position. "The notability of EVERY "element of fiction" is only as notable as determined by the notability of the original work." Cars (film) is a notable work, therefore major characters of that work are notable.  Let's see what they say to my response. Rhindle The Red 17:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Notability isn't automatically inherited. Cars being a high grossing movie doesn't make Mater suddenly notable past the movie. The notability of a work can help push up a character's notability, but it doesn't define it. Nemu 21:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That argument only works if you ignore the huge volume of ancillary materials about the character. From books, to video games to toys to comics to any number of items, Mater has had many more appearances than just the original movie.  But you continually ignore that fact in order to make your point. An article on a simple movie that has only itself probably would never reach the size that Cars (film) reached and therefore the issue would not come up. Rhindle The Red 01:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * All of those materials are mere extentions of the movie. Toys exist for pretty much every single slightly popular film or series. The same goes for video games, and all of the different types of books. Just because a developer picks up a movie, and decides to make a bunch of cheep games about it, doesn't mean much. The Cars article could really use a trim (A few of the sections could be totally cut), and general clean up. After that, I doubt it would be any longer than any of the FA movie articles (with many being single movies). Nemu 01:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This seems to have died again. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and just try a merger tomorrow. Nemu 22:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I have attempted the merge. Hopefully, it will stick. Nemu 20:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleaning up the list
A better solution to fixing this article's problems is a bit more structure. I suggest looking to List of experiments from Lilo & Stitch to get an idea how a large list can be functional and yet manageable. (I know that article is not in the absolute best of shape, but it gives an idea how a smaller list such as this one can be organized.) Rhindle The Red 18:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, you want to compare this list to List of Metal Gear Solid characters and Characters of Final Fantasy VIII which are both featured. They list the main and supporting characters without listing everything with a name like this one. Nemu 19:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, *I* want to compare it to what I compared it to. You see, one of the things about Cars is that it brings in interest from people who just want to know about the cars.  This is why a *more* comprehensive list is needed here than in other character lists. Rhindle The Red 20:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's pretty funny. You want to clean this up, yet you'll only do it by your standards instead of the featured article/list standard? How exactly does comparing it to a list that has a cleanup tag help this article? There is a difference between comprehensive and cruft. Nemu 20:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I never said I would only do it by my standards. I was just pointing out that I believe a different set of criteria is necessary here compared to elsewhere.  And I believe I made it clear I was pointing to the article not based on content, but structure.  A list that can actually be read, not like this one is now, a jumbled mess. Rhindle The Red 21:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How is there a need for a separate standard? FF8 (and most likely MGS) has plenty of characters that do nothing, but still have names. If I really felt like it, I could add a whole other section on those characters while just having a sentence about what they said, or what they look like. That would be deleted automatically. There are no different standards just because there are tons of two sentence characters and gag characters.


 * I assumed you were talking about both structure and content, but there is no need for that structure if there is only necessary content. Nemu 21:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Can we go ahead and trash these pointless characters already? A simple joke, cameo, or name is not a true character. Just because "#117 Lil' Torquey Pistons" exists, it doesn't mean he needs to be here. "Japanese News Reporter", "Elvis RV", and the Pixar cameos appeared for like ten seconds; how are they characters? Nemu 01:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of the characters are a little pointless. Remember the "Gold Car with Purple Mustache", "Green Car that looks like Flo", "Light blue car with Blue Eyes and New Tires", etc.? Those were absolutely pointless. I'm going to remove some more of the pointless characters, if there are any, right now. <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  17:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have any objections with cutting most of those racecars? Only a few need any sort of mention. Nemu 18:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, the racecars are pretty much important, and I think they should stay. I'm still going through the list. <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  18:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How are they important? They're a bunch of cookie cutter place holders; most are hardly even characters. They had to be there for the races to happen, so they decided to sick all of the different notable designs on them. Nemu 18:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, you are right about that. I say make a list of all the racecars and their color and sponsor, but no need for pictures of every single racecar. Let me try that now. <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  18:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's looking pretty good. I think you can put Stanley back, though. Rhindle The Red 00:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please put Stanley back. He is important enough. Much more important than the "Gold Car with Purple Mustache". <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  00:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the point of the section? The only notable things are that he founded the town and was married to Lizzie. The first is really pointless because it has no real impact on the story, and the second is covered in Lizzie's section. Nemu 00:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The point is that he is a notable character. Probably more so than, say, Red.  Even if he is dead, the character is viable and worth an entry. Rhindle The Red 02:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and a quick question. Have you actually seen this movie?  Normally I wouldn't ask, but the fact that you don't think Stanley is viable makes me think perhaps you haven't. Rhindle The Red 02:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We have Red, a minor character used for some laughs and to help Mcqueen build up his personality change, and Stanley, a name and a statue. He serves no purpose in the story, and is as much of a character as "Big Al."
 * I've seen the movie. I don't remember it that clearly, but I know Stanley didn't serve a purpose (at most he was used in a motivational speech). Nemu 02:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You need to watch the film again. You obviously do not know much about Cars. Do not edit articles that you do not know anything about. Please watch the film at least one time again before continuing to edit this page. <font face="Times New Roman">A•N•N•A   <font color="color:chartreuse">hi!  19:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Would you care to quickly refresh me on his role? He is a statue and a name with no importance or information. I cannot recall anything besides minor references in speeches. Was there a long backstory? Was he ever shown in a flashback? He's apparently important, but isn't even mentioned in the movie article (besides in a trivia point). Nemu 21:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Although he is dead and is never actually shown alive, his presence is felt throughout the scenes in Radiator Springs. He is referred to by his widow (who talks to him) and the sequence with his statue kind of looks over the town in a way.  Also, to give some indication of the filmmakers thoughts, the statue is always referred to as "Stanley".  Even the toy just calls the statue "Stanley", not "Stanley's statue".  It shows the filmmakers thought of him as a character in his own right.  I guess if there was a List of Cars locations, we could list "Stanley's statue", but there isn't.  It and he are notable enough to need mention somewhere, and this is the most appropriate place. Rhindle The Red 01:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures
Do we really need all those pictures of Ramone there? They're really just filling up the article.<b style="color:red;">Hondasare</b>GOOD (talk) 13:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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Mia And Tia's . . . Breasts
Should we add a hidden message telling people not to add the "boob flashing" reference? Or would that just encourage more vandals? -WarthogDemon 20:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Cars Sequel Featuring Chick Hicks?
In the section on Chick Hicks there is a sentance at the end that has no source provided: "A sequal to the movie is being made based on Chick Hicks." Is this true? I couldn't find anything about it.
 * Considering Chick Hicks toys didn't sell as much as other toys, I seriously doubt there's going to be a sequel about him. That'd be like Shakespear making a play about Iago. XD -WarthogDemon 00:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that's partially because they didn't make as many toys of Chick as other characters. I had a heck of a time just finding one.  But the line about a "sequal" is preposterous.  I've removed it. Rhindle The Red 02:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

The List
I think we should the Toy Story, Monster Inc, bugs life, cars, and all othe pixar related character list combine to make one long page and history of Pixar chararcters. From User:4444hhhh
 * In this case I would strongly disagree. The page would become too long, even without everyone adding in everyone down to the minorest(word?) of characters. -WarthogDemon 18:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be a very long list, but maybe a category that would serve the same function? There used to be a List of Disney Characters, but it was deleted.  Useight 16:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Lightning
The start of his bio on this page refers to him as a "generic Le Mans car from the 70s". Puhlease. He's clearly a late series Nascar car. Piston/Winston/Nextel/Whateveritisnow Cup. Waltrip. Petty. How can this slip through?? I know I could edit it but I figured there must be an uncited reason why he's called that? VonBlade 21:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

What is Mater?
This may have been discussed in the old Mater article, but that is gone now. I have been trying to figure out why Mater is noted as being a 1951 IHC pickup. Going way back to this edit from April 17th that merged the Mater article into this page there have been three refs in the mater section talking about what he is that don't actually reference anything.

Then in the main Cars article there is a comment in the external links section to this effect: ''Note: Contrary to the MSN article cited in reference 4 (above) **speculating** on the truck being a 1955 Chevy, the **actual** truck is **photographically documented** to be the 1958 IHC. Please do not put other speculation in this entry.''

Which is then followed by this link which doesn't even mention the year of the truck and provides no proof that the truck was the inspiration for Mater. Anyone can submit a tip to roadside america, and they are not checked for accuracy. Furthermore, the tip appears to be submitted by the owner of the gas station the truck is at, so it seems like they are simply trying to drum up business for their station.

Furthermore, that link calls Mater '58 IHC (though the truck looks like a '51), the Mater section calls him a '51 IHC. But if one looks at a pic of a 1951 IHC and a pic of Mater you can easily see that they bear no relation to each other. A 1958 IHC does look a bit more like Mater, though not nearly as much as mid-50's chevy, or mid-50's chevy wrecker.

Does anyone know where this '51/'58 IHC designation came from? Improbcat 20:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

cleanup
I've been working my way through this article, trying to clean up and standardize the entries. I'dd try and finish it later. Improbcat 19:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Just went through the article fixing massive vandalism, poor grammar and errors. This article has major problems with tone and style. Improbcat (talk) 16:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I just went through and fixed a ton of slight errors. Useight (talk) 00:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion: Other Racecars
How about we put Other Racecars in numerical order? Skywatcher68 (talk) 04:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Albert Hinkey & Trev Diesel
Please leave them off the list until their identities are confirmed. Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

New Website!!! Images from Blu-Ray
www.carsdriveingallery.com Has images of 217 cars and their repsective die-cast, every car includes brief summary. Fishhead —Preceding comment was added at 22:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Die Cast Backstories
Shouldn't the backstories from the die-cast versions be on their own page instead of here? Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Lightning McQueen
I'm sure that Lightning McQueen looks like a Mazda RX-8. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevzspeare (talk • contribs) 07:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

What
Shouldn't the page be unlocked. User:BooSluggers —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC).

Trimming this page down
I am about to begin trimming this page down, as it has turned into an indiscriminate list of named vehicles that inhabit the Cars universe, as opposed to being a list of Cars film characters. Before I do so, this is the primary criteria I will be using: (a) characters that are listed in the Cars film credits with a speaking role will remain (primary characters that are displayed on the Cars official film website, for example). (b) characters that are *only* named in video games or toys will be deleted. I know that there will be additional characters that may not fall cleanly into (a) or (b)...those will have to be handled on a case-by-case basis, considering notability and inclusion in reputable, unbiased 3rd-party sources. I will begin the cull in a few days. SpikeJones (talk) 04:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, go ahead. Just watch out for this guy and this guy. Along with the anons, they have been responsible for adding so many of the other characters that may or may not have appeared in the movie.--Eaglestorm (talk) 05:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Cull will begin this weekend. Speak up or forever... well, you know the rest. SpikeJones (talk) 02:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Cull has begun. Started by removing any character who was not named specifically in the film (if the character was only named in a toy line or video game spin-off, then they are not a notable plot-advancing character in the film). SpikeJones (talk) 16:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * (response to Eaglestorm's edit summary) "and this guy" SpikeJones (talk) 16:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair nuff. I take that TP vandalism bit back. Page looking good.--Eaglestorm (talk) 17:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This one was intent on providing bios for all video game characters. Hopefully I disuaded him. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 16:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Splitting off Mater
Mater got his page merged a while back, but now that he has been shown to be a strong independant character, starring in his own series of shorts distinct from the original movie, I feel it is worthwhile to recreate his article. As his original article at Mater has been displaced by what was Mater (disambiguation), something with which I have no problem, I suggest a new article at Mater (Cars). Any objections? Rhindle The Red (talk) 14:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

too much OR, in-universe stuff
The article suffers from serious bloat regarding minute details of each character, and more important original research. Just reading the Doc Hudson section is disgusting. There's so much in there that is pure speculation about intent, feelings, thoughts, etc. For example, "Doc learned some lessons: friendship, promises, how greed affects others, and that secrets can't be kept forever." Where in the movie does any of this come out? Answer: Nowhere. It's original research, and unverified at that. This article needs a MASSIVE overhaul. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You should have seen it a few months ago. Oy. Feel free to start trimming, and once you're done here, pop over to List of Toy Story characters for the same type of cull. SpikeJones (talk) 18:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're making me sick. Stop it :) --Hammersoft (talk) 19:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Time for another trim?
I see "Other racecars" have started creeping in again. Skywatcher68 (talk) 17:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bring out the scissors. Some people just don't get it. --Eaglestorm (talk) 06:27, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * yesSpikeJones (talk) 01:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Is done. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Characters throughout the universe.
Don't you think there should be more characters throughout the entire Cars universe? Like the video games, comic books, the Cars Toons, and other sources, even more additional infor for the other characters? 99.234.143.53 (talk) 05:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Depends. What reliable sources have covered those other characters?  Powers T 15:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Please confine any addition of incidental characters and info unrelated to the movies to a separate page. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 02:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The Twins
I'm not sure I agree with this line:

"When they first meet Lightning, Mia and Tia flash their headlights at him, similar to groupies pulling up their shirts to flash celebrities."

To me, it's always seemed that they were mimicking McQueens' lightning bolt light gimmick that he does. They even say "Ka-chow!" like he does when he was doing it for the camera crews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrettxPW (talk • contribs) 14:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

51HHMD and the real-life Fabulous Hudson Hornet
The Fabulous Hudson Hornet in the Wally Parks Museum sports 1951 California tag 1H 570; "#X ###", "#X ####", or "#X#####" were the standard passenger vehicle conventions used by California from 1951 until '55. They did not use ##XXXX and personalized plates weren't available until 1970 so it's highly unlikely that the real-life Fabulous Hudson Hornet had ones that read 51HHMD. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 04:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * While this isn't exactly conclusive--the odds of a real NASCAR-run Hornet being registered in California when it was running are exceedingly low--it's still a fair point, as even in '51, very few NASCAR race machines were ever driven on the public roads, and thus usually had no license plates at all. rdfox 76 (talk) 04:33, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Found a site with an example of every state plate from '51 and none of them are ##XXXX. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In the film, the contrails in the sky appear to resemble tyre tracks, some of the towns have fictional names, and one of the vehicles in the film seems to have a tongue in the front bumper. I think that the producers of this film really really dropped the ball on their fact-checking. --Pete (talk) 19:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.166.35.198, 6 December 2010
The name Bessie is based on the first letters of the machine's three-word company...B S E. The full name's shown on the back of Bessie in one of the shots.

71.166.35.198 (talk) 05:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. It's far from clear what you want changing. Please make your request in the form change X to Y.  Thank you. Dpmuk (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from JKRedRubi, 13 December 2010
Under the TJ Hummer Section that reads: ===TJ Hummer=== TJ Hummer is a vain Hummer H1 that Sarge teaches in his boot camp during the end of the movie. Unlike the other SUVs in the boot camp, TJ refuses to go off road, fearing that he will get dirt on his rims, but Sarge forces him to do so.

Edit: The "Hummer H1" part should be changed to a "Hummer H2". Clearly, someone made a mistake in identifying the resemblance of the Hummer H2 to the character.

JKRedRubi (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Stickee (talk)  13:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Fillmore's voice
There currently is no actor credited for his voice. Stop trying to add one. --Skywatcher68 (talk) 00:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Cars 2 Character Backstories
Somebody should really add some of these.

Tomber: Tomber (voice of Michel Michelis) is a dubious little French car with an unusual, and very unstable, three-wheeled design that befits the meaning of his name – to fall. By trade he deals car parts from a stall in a Parisian market—though his questionable merchandise sources have led to his reluctant acquaintance with British secret agent Finn McMissile.

Professor Z: Professor Z, aka “The Professor,” is an internationally wanted weapons designer in a small, sophisticated German package. He is a brilliant, but mad monocle-wearing scientist who is plotting to sabotage the World Grand Prix. Though his true motive is unclear, Professor Z is willing to do whatever it takes to eliminate all obstacles and keep the “project” on schedule.

Nigel Gearsley: Nigel Gearsley from Warwickshire, England, is an Aston Martin DB9R racer bearing #9. He got his start racing the Speed Hill Climb—a unique, completely uphill race through the Aston Hill Mountain Area that his family has run for generations. Nigel’s racing career has been anything but an uphill challenge, as he’s won nearly every start in the past few years on the Grand Touring Sports Car circuit, including a string of podiums at Nurburgring and Le Mans. His cool British refinement makes him an imposing presence on the World Grand Prix courses."

Sir Miles Axlerod: "Sir Miles Axlerod is a former oil baron who has sold off his fortune, converted himself into an electric vehicle and has devoted his life to finding the renewable, clean-burning energy source of the future—ultimately discovering what he believes is the fuel everyone should be using. Axlerod is also the car behind the World Grand Prix, a three-country race he created that attracts the world’s top athletes—but it’s really an excuse to show off his new wonder-fuel, Allinol."

Francesco Bernoulli: "Francesco Bernoulli grew up in the shadow of the famous Monza race course in Italy where he and his friends would sneak onto the track and race the famous Pista di Alta Velocita bank turn. He was an instant winner on the amateur circuit and soon became an international Formula Racer champion. The ladies love Francesco’s open wheels, youngsters look up to his winning spirit and fellow racers envy his speed. But Francesco’s biggest fan is Francesco himself, as evidenced by his racing number. As the most famous race car in Europe, #1 Francesco is a favorite to win the World Grand Prix, which also makes him McQueen’s chief rival."

Uncle Topolino: "In the small village of Santa Ruotina, near Porto Corsa, Italy, Luigi’s favorite uncle, Uncle Topolino, resides with his beloved wife, Mama Topolino. Uncle Topolino is the owner of the village’s tire shop, where he taught Luigi and Guido everything they know, though Uncle Topolino is full of sage advice about more than just tires."

Mama Topolino: "To all who know her, Luigi’s aunt, Mama Topolino, is a masterful cook with the best fuel in the village of Santa Ruotina, near Porto Corsa, Italy. Though she has a loving, but fiery relationship with her husband, Uncle Topolino, she shows her love and generosity for both family and friends by feeding everyone her renowned delizioso fuel."

Acer: "Acer has always felt like an outcast in the car world. The beat-up green AMC Pacer joined forces with fellow “lemon” cars as henchmen for the devious Professor Z, whose clandestine mission is to wreak havoc at the highly visible World Grand Prix. Acer must hunt down the American and British secret agents who’ve stolen crucial information about Professor Z’s underhanded plot—his primary target just happens to be Mater, who’s been mistaken for a spy. Acer tries very hard to be a tough guy, but he’s over-eager compared to his no-nonsense accomplice Grem."

Grem: "Grem is a dented, rusty orange AMC Gremlin. After years of being dismissed for his design, even being called a “lemon,” Grem has a big chip on his fender that has led him to the underworld of international espionage. As a henchman for a villainous boss Professor Z, Grem and his partner-in-crime Acer are trying to sabotage the World Grand Prix and the famous race cars competing in it. When Grem and Acer mistake Mater for an American agent with important top-secret information, the ruthless lemons set out on a round-the-globe chase to stop Mater from foiling their evil scheme."

Shu Todoroki: "Shu Todoroki is a Le Motor Prototype racer representing Japan and bearing #7 in the World Grand Prix. Shu was raised at the base of the active Mount Asama volcano in Japan, and soon became a champion on the Suzuka Circuit. His sleek design sports a fiery red Ka-Riu dragon, which Shu borrowed from Japanese legend because he relates to the small, yet fierce nature of the dragon. His team legacy is filled with victories – his coach, a Mazda, was the only Japanese car to ever win at Le Mans – and Shu hopes to prove his champion-level racing on the international stage of the World Grand Prix."

Raoul CaRoule: "Known as the ‘World’s Greatest Rally Car,” #6 Raoul ÇaRoule was born in Alsace, France. A restless soul, Raoul joined the famous ‘Cirque du Voiture’ French circus where he learned Gymkhana – a graceful, drift-filled motorsport that taught him pinpoint timing and an unparalleled ability to navigate tricky courses with ease. He’s the first car to ever win nine consecutive rallies. Raoul is confident he can use his rally experience to pull ahead of his fellow World Grand Prix racers during the three courses’ touchy dirt sections, especially with his fans in the stands waving banners that read ‘ÇaRoule Ca-Rules!’"

Carla Veloso: World Grand Prix contender Carla Veloso hails from Rio de Janiero, Brazil. The sweet but powerful Latin diva can dance the night away at “Car-nival,” but spends most of her time on the racetrack. In the World Grand Prix, the proud Brazilian Le Motor Prototype racer is the only female in the field, and Carla is ready to prove to the world that #8 is there to win for her home country.

Finn McMissile: "Finn McMissile is a master British spy. Though charming and eloquent, it’s his stealth maneuvering, intelligence and years in the field that enable him to thwart unexpected attacks from bad guys, making quick daredevil escapes.. Finn’s design is sleek and timeless, but he’s also prepared for any tricky situation with an arsenal of ultra-cool gadgets and weaponry, including front and rear grappling hooks, a missile launcher, deployable magnetic explosives and a holographic disguise emitter. As a seasoned professional in the game of international espionage, Finn believes there is a conspiracy brewing during the World Grand Prix. His clandestine work surrounding the global exhibition race puts him on a collision course with Mater, whom he mistakes for an undercover American agent with a genius disguise."

Holley Shiftwell: "Holley Shiftwell is a beautiful young British desk agent, turned spy-in-training who’s stationed in Tokyo. Well-educated and sharp, she knows every trick in the book—or rather, she relies on every trick in the spy manual. She’s armed with the latest state-of-the-art spy equipment imaginable, from hidden cameras and concealed weapons to a telescoping utility arm and a holographic pop-up display. Holley is a highly motivated agent, but is fresh out of the academy, so her experience is based on lessons learned in school rather than real-life situations. When seasoned international spy Finn McMissile requires Holley’s technical expertise for his latest top-secret field operation, she finds herself pursuing a rendezvous with the most unlikely candidate—Mater, an innocent caught up in the intrigue, who is mesmerized by the beauty of his newest friend."

Mater: "In the now popular tourist destination of Radiator Springs, the rusty old tow truck Mater has a number of roles, including proprietor of Tow Mater Towing and Salvage, grand storyteller and the heart and soul of the town. But Mater’s favorite title is best friend to Lightning McQueen. Mater values each and every dent he’s earned on his escapades with Lightning over the years, and anxiously awaits further fun with his friend when Lightning returns with his latest Piston Cup.

Cheerful, honest and loyal to a fault, Mater rushes to his best friend’s defense, which ultimately lands the off-duty Lightning in an international racing exhibition: the World Grand Prix. When Lightning invites Mater to come along as a member of his pit crew, Mater leaves Carburetor County for the first time ever.

Not long after their arrival in Tokyo, Mater learns that the world outside of Radiator Springs is decidedly different and its newfangled ways may take some getting used to. But when he’s mistaken for an American secret agent, he falls into an intriguing adventure of his own. Caught between supporting his best friend on a globe-trotting racing competition and his new role in international espionage, Mater ends up in an explosive chase through the streets of Tokyo and Europe alongside a team of British spies and international bad guys."

Sally: "Sally, a baby blue Porsche 911 Carrera, is the proprietor of Radiator Springs’ Cozy Cone and Wheel Wagon Motels and the apple of Lightning McQueen’s eye. Longing for Lightning’s return from his latest Piston Cup race season, Sally is looking forward to a long drive with “Stickers,” as she affectionately calls Lightning.

When Lightning commits to racing in the World Grand Prix the same night of his return, Sally remains steadfastly supportive of her star racecar. She even convinces Lightning to take his best friend Mater along for the ride of a lifetime. Though Sally stays behind in Radiator Springs, even she lights up for the open-wheeled racing cars from Europe – but only Lightning truly makes her motor purr."

Ramone: "Ramone owns and operates Ramone’s House of Body Art, Radiator Springs’ custom body and paint shop. Ramone is an artist — a true magician with paint and metal. There was a time when his only canvas was himself, so he repainted himself daily. But since Lightning McQueen helped put Radiator Springs back on the map, Ramone has had his share of customers—including the star race car himself. Before heading off to the World Grand Prix, Lightning stops by Ramone’s for a new paint job…and Ramone does him up gooood."

Flo: "Flo is a sassy, no-nonsense lady with the biggest heart in Radiator Springs. She runs the local diner, Flo’s V-8 Café, the only gas station for miles around, where she still serves the “finest fuel in 50 states.” Flo is Ramone’s main squeeze. As a touring Motorama girl in the 1950s, Flo was passing through Radiator Springs and when she met Ramone, she was hooked."

Sheriff: "Sheriff is the local law enforcement and the keeper of the peace in Radiator Springs. He takes his job very seriously. Sheriff enjoys telling stories and taking the occasional nap behind the Radiator Springs billboard. That’s where he was when Lightning McQueen first zoomed into town years ago, which led to a messy car chase that didn’t end well. These days, Sheriff welcomes the hotshot racer Lightning home to Radiator Springs with all four tires."

Lizzie: "Lizzie is a Radiator Springs original. She’s a little old lady, but still an active businesswoman who uses her moxie to sell bumper stickers, mud flaps and other Route 66 memorabilia from her curio shop. She’s as feisty as she is brash. Lizzie’s unswerving frankness and offbeat comments keep the townsfolk and tourists on their toes, even though she has no idea what she’s just said."

Lightning McQueen: "Number 95 Lightning McQueen is still a hotshot racecar, but his rookie days are past him. Now a permanent resident of Radiator Springs, Lightning has become a bona fide worldwide celebrity as winner of four Piston Cups.

After his latest win, Lightning returns home to enjoy life in the slow lane for a while with sweetheart Sally, best friend Mater and the rest of his Radiator Springs family. His off-season is unexpectedly cut short when Mater inadvertently prompts Lightning to enter the World Grand Prix, a high profile, three-part exhibition race that will take him around the globe.

With a fresh custom paint job and real, working headlights, Lightning sets off to Japan, Italy and England with Mater in tow for the adventure of a lifetime. But competing against the fastest cars in the world tests more than his racing skills when Lightning realizes his wide-eyed best friend may not be the pit chief nor ambassador he needs to navigate the unfamiliar international terrain."

Luigi: "Radiator Springs resident Luigi is a big-hearted, gregarious and excitable Italian Fiat 500. A tire virtuoso and owner of Luigi’s Casa Della Tires, he and his sidekick Guido join Lightning and Mater as members of Team Lightning McQueen for the World Grand Prix. Luigi is also an aficionado and fanatic for all things Italian, and is particularly enchanted with Ferrari race cars. When the competition takes the team to his hometown of Porto Corsa, Italy, Luigi is over the moon to introduce the Radiator Springs crew to his charming village and the wonderful ways of Italy. His family welcomes the gang from Radiator Springs in a big, passionate Italian way: Amore!"

Guido: "Guido, the little Italian forklift, is the backbone of Casa Della Tires. He’s Luigi’s assistant and best friend, and together they are the biggest Ferrari racing fans in Carburetor County. A car of few English words other than “pit stop,” Guido is a force to be reckoned with when he’s changing tires in the pits during a race. Joining Team Lightning McQueen for the World Grand Prix, Guido will get to show off his turbo-charged, pedal-to-the-metal pit stops on the global stage…and maybe, just maybe, he’ll see some Ferraris!"

Fillmore: "Radiator Springs’ resident hippie Fillmore is an easy-going, peace-loving 1960s Volkswagen van. And as his friend and neighbor Sarge likes to say, “once a hippie, always a hippie.” At his popular shop Fillmore’s Organic Fuel, Fillmore brews his own fuel, which he sells with Bohemian accessories like tie-dyed mud flaps. But when he learns that the World Grand Prix will be run exclusively on the alternative fuel Allinol, Fillmore closes up shop and signs on as the fuel expert for Team Lightning McQueen."

Sarge: "Green Army Jeep Sarge is a patriotic veteran who runs the Radiator Springs Army surplus store, Sarge’s Surplus Hut. Sarge’s no-nonsense attitude often leads to bickering with his hippie friend, neighbor and polar opposite, Fillmore. Despite their differences, the two are almost inseparable – even throughout their world travels. A security specialist with military connections around the globe, Sarge joins Lightning and Mater at the World Grand Prix as a member of Team Lightning McQueen."

Mack: "Mack is Lightning McQueen’s trusted long-haul driver, crisscrossing the country from race to race, always with a smile on his grill. After dropping Lightning off in Radiator Springs with his fourth Piston Cup championship trophy, Mack sets off with the rest of the pit crew for a well-deserved vacation. Who knew that Lightning would end up jetting off to a race around the globe in the World Grand Prix?"

Pdas1996 (talk) 01:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

The King's Voice
Please add "the King is voiced by Niki Lauda in the German Version of the Movie. 86.59.10.226 (talk) 21:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Delinquent Road Hazards: Ages and Wingo's model and writing.
I've been filing through the change history for the article, and I kept seeing that the DRHs kept going back and forth between their teens and 20s, and Wingo go from Nissan Silvia to Honda Accord and back, and Wingo's writing going between インポート (inpōto; Japanese for "import"), and Witi-H. What's going on here?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kanjilearner (talk • contribs) 15:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Mayfield??
I was playing the video game and after a piston cup race it happened that a car named Mayfield finished 2nd behind me. Does anybody know this mayfield?? Fishhead 20:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Edit request from GeminiD42, 26 March 2011
Red will reappear in Cars 2, as shown in the latest trailer. Chick is set to return in Cars 2. The King will reappear in Cars 2. Darrell Cartrip will appear in Cars 2 as announcer for the World Grand Prix, alongside Brent Mustangburger

GeminiD42 (talk) 12:49, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Its true that Red and Darrell Cartrip come back in Cars 2; but it has never been confirmed that Chick and The King come back.--69.157.246.168 (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Wingo and Boost
Just a comment on the models both cars are said to be, they are, I think, the wrong way round. The spoiler shape and curvy nature of Wingos body lends itself to the eclipse, as does the shape of the hoop spoiler, while the angular style and broad wing on boost suggest Mich mote readily to being a Silvia, with the drift culture they are so deeply entwined with. (Another editor here: I'd like to add that Snot Rod is a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T, not a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda which the page states. He clearly has the "R/T" logo on his grill.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.165.128 (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

To me, Snot Rod seems to be a modified 1971 Plymouth Barracuda, as this was the only year this car had four headlamps. Nonetheless he has side exhausts which, to my knowledge, only the 1970 AAR Cuda had factory installed. The body shape of a Challenger is definitely longer. 213.166.53.129 (talk) 18:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The King
In the german edition of the movie, The King is voiced by austrian three-time Formula One World Champion Niki Lauda.--192.78.147.13 (talk) 15:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Spelling of Ramone
Anyone know why his name ends with an e? Was this a Hollywood continuity problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.96.38.41 (talk) 18:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.101.146.12, 24 April 2011
there is a cars character named boost. he is not mentioned here. i wanted to know more about him. he has photos on google image search. thanks.

76.101.146.12 (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Character must be notable for inclusion in this article and provide a reliable source. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:00, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

This information is directly from the cars official site. I know what copy and paste is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!173.28.164.151 (talk) 18:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Finn McMissile
Finn McMissile is inspired by Volkswagen Karmann Ghia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Karmann_Ghia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.47.237.173 (talk) 12:21, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/06/22/cars-2-what-kind-of-car-is-finn-mcmissile-slideshow/ --65.92.82.140 (talk) 20:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook
What car ist Hook - 1956 Chevy Pickup Truck? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.3.59 (talk) 17:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a precision : Hook is the German name of Mater.--65.92.143.213 (talk) 16:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Agony over -agonists
I can't count the number of times anons add this pedantic level of detail to the article. It's not our business to say what character plays what major role in the film's plot; all we need to do is say who is who and what sourced information is available about them or how the character was developed. As it is, this article needs a lot of work, and has very few sources relative to its length. Yes, the film itself can be a source, but it should be based on what's actually said, not someone's interpretation of what they said. So, before trying to add the "agonists" back, please discuss the addition here and build consensus first. -- McDoob AU  93  00:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Holley Shiftwell
Nothing about being an iPhone developer? 109.153.55.173 (talk) 21:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * In my interpretation of that statement, that's just her cover and not her real job. It's said when Mater tries (again) to say he is simply a tow truck, which Finn misinterprets as him insisting on staying in character in his cover as a tow truck. -- McDoob  AU  93  22:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Rod's Michigan Plate
The fact that the Rod has a plate from Michigan may be nod to either the major car industry that existed there, or the actor portraying him, Bruce Campbell is a Michigan Native. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.92.232 (talk) 23:52, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Delinquent Road Hazards
The current text states "The Delinquent Road Hazards are a group of four modified tuner cars..." A tuner is typically a Japanese import. Snot Rod is a Plymouth Barracuda, a muscle car. Any ideas for a better way to classify the group of four? Could we just remove the reference to "tuner"? CorriganJohn (talk) 22:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Mater's Tall Tales on the List?
Characters in the shorts seem nicly covered by the table in the Franchise article. Is there really a need to provide specifics here? --Skywatcher68 (talk) 21:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think it should be here, since the Franchise article's Character section covers the general Cars characters, not the ones in Mater's Tall Tales, know what I mean? Visokor (talk) 22:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Route 66 people and places
These are acknowledged in the credits for the original film as the sources for info on U.S. Route 66 (and cited at ), although that list does not match real-world 66 items to their Radiator Springs versions:


 * Michael Wallis, mother road historian and author (voice of 'Sheriff')
 * Eisler Brothers Old Riverton Store, Baxter Springs, Kansas
 * Dean Walker of the Kansas Route 66 association ('Mater's walking-backwards bit, ghostlight stories)
 * Rock Café (Dawn Welch), Stroud, Oklahoma ('Sally's promotion of a 'newly refurbished' US 66 main street)
 * Jim Ross and Butch Breger, Arcadia, Oklahoma
 * Oklahoma Route 66 Museum, Clinton, Oklahoma
 * Best Western Tradewinds Courtyard Inn, Clinton, Oklahoma (Dr. Walter S. Mason Jr., its now-deceased owner, was interviewed per and  after an introduction by Michael Wallis. He had donated land for the  Oklahoma Route 66 Museum. The Tradewinds motel went into steep decline after his demise and is no longer a Best Western.)
 * RS & K Railroad Museum, Sayre, Oklahoma (see List of museums in Oklahoma)
 * Sand Hills Curiosity Shop (City Meat Market building), Erick, Oklahoma
 * National Route 66 Museum, Old Town Museum Complex, Elk City, Oklahoma (see List of museums in Oklahoma)
 * Country Dove tea room, Elk City, Oklahoma
 * Devils Rope Barbed Wire Museum, McLean, Texas
 * Cadillac Ranch, Amarillo, Texas ('Cadillac Range')
 * The Big Texan Steak Ranch, Amarillo, Texas (the 'Tex Dinoco' long-horned Cadillac vehicles)
 * Midpoint Café (Fran Hauser), Adrian, Texas ('Flo' and the two sisters 'Mia' and 'Tia')
 * Eddie Shields (longtime manager of La Loma Motel), Santa Rosa, New Mexico
 * Blue Swallow Motel, Tucumcari, New Mexico (neon '100% refrigerated air' slogan)
 * Tee Pee Curios, Tucumcari, New Mexico
 * Joe and Aggie's Café, Holbrook, Arizona
 * Jack Rabbit Trading Post, Joseph City, Arizona ('HERE IT IS' souvenir shop signage)
 * La Posada (La Posada Hotel, La Posada Historic District), Winslow, Arizona
 * Roadworks Gifts and Souvenirs (Standin' on the Corner Park), Winslow, Arizona
 * Old Trails Museum, Winslow, Arizona (see List of museums in Arizona)
 * Route 66 Magazine, Williams, Arizona
 * Angel Delgadillo's barber shop, Seligman, Arizona (the Delgadillo brothers explained how local traffic died the day I-40 opened)
 * Sno Cap Drive-In (Juan Delgadillo, Delgadillo's Snow Cap Drive-In), Seligman, Arizona

It almost looks like they went from Baxter Springs to Peach Springs looking for Radiator Springs?

Inclusion on this list does not infer that the person or business appears as something in the film - these were people who provided the information on the history of US 66. Oddly, neither Cozy Cone Motel nor Wheel Well Motel appear on this list of the people and places visited during the research for the 2006 film, at least not under the most obvious real-world US 66 locations (Holbrook and Cuba) where they'd be expected. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 06:40, 23 June 2012 (UTC)