Talk:List of Case Closed volumes

Pictures
Picture are being re-added with a proper "Non-free use rationale" it may take a while so please be patient. I will also be adding chapter names as i read threw them. - Inuyasha3k0 17:58, November 10, 2007

List of Detective Encyclopedia
Sense this was moved here awhile back, I'd like to just list them all. As of now they are all split up. This list is here for reference only. The list is :
 * Sherlock Holmes
 * Kogoro Akechi
 * Hercule Poirot
 * Arsène Lupin
 * Jules Maigret
 * Kōsuke Kinda'ichi;
 * Lieutenant Columbo
 * Zenigata Heiji
 * Philip Marlowe
 * C. Auguste Dupin
 * Ellery Queen
 * V. I. Warshawski
 * Father Brown
 * Cordelia Gray*
 * Heizō Hasegawa
 * Matsuhiko Asami
 * Nero Wolfe
 * Shunsaku Kudo
 * Hannibal Lecter
 * Miss Marple
 * TBA

- Prede (talk) 20:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reference Prede, I really appreciate you making such a detailed list for reference. 70.4.120.49 (talk) 23:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

To do
I've recently been doing a lot of cleanup, expansion, and sourcing for this page, but there's still a lot of work to be done: This isn't a complete list, if you have anything to add, please do. — Dino guy  1000  19:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The lead needs to be tightened up and possibly expanded some.
 * Images will probably be removed for the most part, since in its current state, this article *might* qualify as an image gallery (see also WP:IUP)
 * Volume titles need to be confirmed or added. If volumes are actually unnamed, this needs to be noted, and existing volume titles should be removed from the list.
 * Detective profiles should be confirmed and added, along with any other special features in each volume.
 * ISBN number formats should be confirmed - I'm not sure of the exact hyphenation, so someone more knowledgeable should have a look and see if any need to be fixed.
 * Romaji chapter titles need to be added for pretty much everything, English chapter titles need to be confirmed for those chapters that have had an official English release, and properly translated for those that are unreleased.
 * Kanji chapter titles should be found for volumes 25 and 30.
 * The chapter list for volume 29 needs to be corrected - the source lists eleven chapters, but this list has twelve.
 * Summaries need to be added and cleaned up. Good summaries...
 * are between 300 and 500 words, or one paragraph, in length.
 * cover all major plot points without going into excessive detail. Per WP:SPOILER, spoilers should *not* be avoided.
 * do not ask questions. Summaries are just that, summaries, and should not require the reader to read the volume to find answers.
 * General cleanup - grammer, spelling, punctuation, etc.
 * Sources, sources, sources.
 * I think the images can stay. It's not a photo gallery, sense we explain each and every manga there is. If all we did was post the pictures, then yes it would be a photo gallery. - Prede (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason I mentioned the possibility of removing most of the images is that I haven't seen any other chapter lists that have had a good once-over that have a cover image from each volume. I'm not saying this list *can't*, but I am working off of precedence. — Dino guy  1000  14:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

If anyone hasn't noticed, I recently corrected the English chapter titles for volume one and wrote a new summary. However, I don't have access to any more volumes of Case Closed (a shame, since the series is actually very enjoyable), so I can't do any more work of that type. In addition, I'm not too good at writing summaries – this is actually (one of?) the first I've ever written – so I'd appreciate feedback, corrections, additions, etc. — Dino guy  1000  16:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the images can't stay and I have removed all of them but the one allowed. To call them a violation of WP:NONFREE would be an understatement. A chapter list gets one image, one. That image goes in the top right corner and should ideally be the first Japanese volume. No images in the graphic novel table, no images of every volume, period. Additionally images are only allowed if necessary to illustrate significant changes in cover in the English release, and then again, only one comparison in the top right corner. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)\

"Gosho Aoyama's Mystery Library" changed?
Cover character(s) should not be the name of this section, it should be "Gosho Aoyama's Mystery Library". Cover Character implies the character on the cover of the manga is said person. This is not true, the last page of the manga has a section for detectives, and that is what is being talked about. I have no idea how to change this all back, please revert this part back for them all to say "Gosho Aoyama's Mystery Library", not "Cover character(s)" - Prede (talk) 06:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the correct section title is Cover characters, with a bulleted list of the characters that appear on the covers of each volume (note, text list, not images). This is in keeping with the MoS, and the instructions of the Graphic novel list template. Whatever is in "Gosho Aoyama's Mystery Library" is unlikely to belong at all, particularly if its just a single page. It can be noted that every volume includes it in the lead, or if it is only in a few volumes, add to the chapter list. --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The names listed under "cover characters" have nothing to do with the covers of the manga, but with the section at the end called "Gosho Aoyama's Mystery Library". This is in EVERY volume, at the end, before the adds. It is note worthy and this should be fixed, however I am unaware of how to change all those section names at once. I believe that section was in the chapter list, and either recently mvoed, or you moved it yourself. We had pictures of the cover characters, but sense that is deleted, you could make a section for "cover characters", then find out the characters by looking at the removed pictures(hassle to do). The named currently under "Cover Characters" have nothing to do with the manga covers.- Prede (talk) 06:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it is not note worthy and it should not be "fixed" as it is not broken. Many manga series pepper volumes with character profiles, we don't include lists of those in our chapter lists either. Its an extra, and not something to go into detail about. A one sentence mention of the extra in the lead is all it requires or deserves. Otherwise its just undue weight on a minor aspect of the volume that has little to do with the series as a whole. I've removed the names listed under those headings, though, as you are correct in that they are not cover characters. Someone can go back in and add the actual character names later, by looking at the images elsewhere or their own volumes. --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 07:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, Jimmy Kudo/Conan Edogawa is the only character that ever appears on the cover of Case Closed, and it's always in his younger (Conan Edogawa) form. Therefore, I see little reason to note this individually for *every* volume, perhaps it would be better to just note it in the lead, similar to how you suggest the "Mystery Library" should be done? — Dino guy  1000  17:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If he's always the only cover character, than agreed, that can come out all together (and I have removed). -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 17:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What is the "Mystery Library", anyway?--Nohansen (talk) 15:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's just a one-page picture/bio of famous (fictional only?) detectives. — Dino guy  1000  17:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I certainly would doubt if that is considered encyclopedia, much less encyclopedia than the pictures Collectorian removed. -- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  17:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly...nothing that needs a individual listing on every volume. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 17:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Notice
I have bought the volumen number 28 (It has a black and white cover of Conan and a forest in the background) The edition date was wrong: It was dated in July but it was done in August, but the ISBN number was right! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedleypanama (talk • contribs) 18:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not according to its official page on Shogakukan's website. — Dino guy  1000  21:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Splitting
How shall this be done? I suggest we should gather the first 50 volumes and split it from that. If its too big, we could go with 30 volumes. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 00:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably too much. Seems like 30 volumes are enough for the templates to go bananas (case in point). I guess it would be best to follow the example of other similar articles (Naruto, One Piece and so on) and make a cut every N volumes (30?) Enenth (talk) 14:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll go with splitting them into 30 volumes per page. 50 seems to be too much (never tried but it 30 looks pretty good with Naruto and One Piece).
 * And yeah, your edits scared me, volumes 61~ went to the bottom of the page. What happened to the specific references anyway? Raychut (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Beats me. The preview page of this revision gives a "Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included." It probably has something to do with the MediaWiki parser and this. What exactly, I don't know. Enenth (talk) 16:59, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Well I'm gonna move the page to List of Case Closed manga volumes for now and work on the lazy split. I should be done today so there's no need to move it back. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 21:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Completed. Enenth, could you finish formatting the chapter list? Thanks DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Still needs some tweaking, but it's mostly done. Enenth (talk) 21:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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