Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 21–34)

Casualty@Holby City episodes
Why are the Casualty half of the Casualty@Holby City episodes not on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boushenheiser (talk • contribs) 19:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * they are under casualty at holby cit sectiont her enot part of the casualty seasons-- Andrewcrawford  ( talk  -  contrib ) 20:48, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Emergency Editing Done - 28/06/2016
This is to inform anyone who edits these articles, that the table setup for Series 29 and 30 had been messed up by something recent. All of Series 29 episodes had been listed under Series 30 for some unknown reason. The cause transpired to be a mistake in Series 29's episode table in its article, which hadn't been deleted. I rectified the issue, and hope that people will take care, not to leave mistakes in the tables in the near future, otherwise they may mess up the tables on that Series' article and on this full list of episodes. GUtt01 (talk) 23:01, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Layout of Episode Tables Beyond 27, including Specials
We have an issue with this article. The tables from the articles covering Series 28-30, and the table for the Specials, appear to be having an issue in appearing; all info on Special episodes do not display, despite being in the edit window, and for Series 28 - 31, we are left with this for each one - Template:Main Casualty (series XX). Even the templates for the Reference List and the Expandable lists for dramas using the Holby setting are not functioning properly. The problem could be that the page has reached its template limit, but if not, the underlying cause must be found and rectified. GUtt01 (talk) 22:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The problems that existed with this article were raised at WT:TV and have now been fixed. It's not the ideal solution, but we don't have an alternative. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Matter Resolved by  Aussie Legend . GUtt01 (talk) 15:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Can I just say a huge thank you for fixing the issues on this page. ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 12 July 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved to List of Casualty episodes (series 21–present) per consensus here. See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television and my closing comments there. No such user (talk) 08:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

List of Casualty episodes → List of Casualty episodes (series 21–present) – The current name falsely implies that this list has all Casualty episodes when it is only series 21 onward. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 18:23, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support. The current title is clearly misleading. The current title "List of Casualty episodes" is left over from the naming scheme "List of Casualty episodes", "List of Casualty episodes*" which was rejected by consensus at Talk:List_of_Casualty_episodes_(series_1–20). Adumbrativus (talk) 00:10, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. The current title is indeed misleading as it doesn't have a list of all episodes. A better system is one used by Lists of Doctor Who episodes. Gonnym (talk) 09:20, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. Obviously. And redirect List of Casualty episodes to Casualty (TV series). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:10, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support – unlike the others this one doesn't have the incorrect plural situation. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose This proposal flies in the face of established convention - See for example List of The Simpsons episodes. Where it has been necessary to split episode lists that break the post expand include size, sub-pages are created but the master list is not renames. This avoids any necessity to move episode lists every time a sub-page is created. IIRC, the original move discussion that resulted in this convention is the one at Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 1–20) along with other explanations on that page. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * U|AussieLegend, you are of course right. But the difference is, there's substantial page history here that should go with the content. The move rationale completely misses the point, as does most of the discussion. The point is that as you say the list is to be split, which was later explained but among such a fog of irrelevant stuff that I missed it too. Messy in more ways than just that, but I suggest we now apply wp:IAR and move on. Andrewa (talk) 16:24, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Brought here from the discussion at . I also agree with the editors at WT:TV and the RM nominator(s). If the "season A-B" article is disambiguated, then so should related articles, such as the "season C-present" article. An article's title should be the clearest indicator that reflects the content of the article: "List of X episodes" indicates that all episodes are listed on the article, but "List of X episodes (season C-present)" indicates that only a set number of episodes are listed on the article and that the rest are at a related article. I'll be voting to support the other related RM's, with the same reasoning I've listed here. -- / Alex /21  01:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note - Since the result of this RM may contradict the current, ell established naming process, this RM should be halted until the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television concludes with an appropriate outcome. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose . Instead work on the article to make it more complete. Andrewa (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , can I ask how it is not currently complete? (This question applies to the other RMs and articles as well.) -- / Alex /21  03:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. (Yes, it would have saved us all a lot of trouble had this been raised as a multi-move, wouldn't it.) It's incomplete if the move doesn't go ahead. Completing it would mean adding the material required by the current title; That is the other way to make the title and content match. Essentially these RMs propose to split the topics rather than do this. Perhaps this is justified, if for example the resulting list articles are too long, but I see no evidence to that effect. And suppose someone is looking for a particular episode but does not know its date (not an unusual scenario I would guess)? The fewer the lists, the easier that task is. Andrewa (talk) 03:55, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , there is indeed a reason for that, and discussions have been held in regards to why they are split the way they are; I'd be happy to explain why. Long story short, we cannot physically make this list more complete and list all the episodes on one article, because then the article expands past the post-expand include size for the transcluded episodes (see WP:PEIS), and the article breaks, and episodes included after the PEIS is reached are included in a broken format (e.g. instead of the actual episode list appearing, it'll just be a link to Template:Episode list and no actual content). Articles cannot have an infinite amount of content; they break after a set limit, and that limit was reached here, hence why the topics/articles are already split. Thus, moving the article would mean that the title matches the content correct, as we are required to list the episodes this way. There is no physical way that we can have the content match the current title. -- / Alex /21  04:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'd like to know if the above makes sense on why we cannot do what you've requested. Cheers. -- / Alex /21  14:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It begins to make sense, yes, thank you. Basically the problem is procedural. I should have suspected that when these several moves, which should patently have been a multi-move, were all moved individually. My mistake there. The question really is, where is it best for this page history to end up, following the split? And it should of course go with the content. The move rationale The current name falsely implies that this list has all Casualty episodes when it is only series 21 onward just did not address the issues. My mistake for not looking further. I will now fix that. Andrewa (talk) 16:24, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support (change of !vote). See discussion above. We will get there! Andrewa (talk)
 * Support and creation of List of Casualty episodes disambiguation page to fully execute the split, per above and other discussions. --  Wikipedical (talk) 16:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

References not showing
References aren't showing in the reference list. Is the page becoming too big? 5.151.5.217 (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, it may well be as I can't spot any other issues. We could require a third page – perhaps series 35–present? – Meena • 16:45, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Page has been created (here) and reference issue has been solved. – Meena • 22:26, 23 August 2023 (UTC)