Talk:List of Chinese spy cases in the United States

Christine Fang
Expected her on the list...but not — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A44A:A685:1:7EDB:F674:AF7D:7A56 (talk) 18:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

❌ According to the Axios story, which seems to be the only long reporting on her case, Christine Fang skedaddled when the FBI contacted the various U.S. politicians she had been befriending. They were pretty sure she was a spy, but government sources say they believe she didn't get any classified information. It seems Fang was found out and she left before any arrest or charges. According to the first paragraph of this article, this page is a list of people actually charged. M.boli (talk) 00:34, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Zhongsan Liu
This is a visa fraud case. The people who were to receive the visas may or may not be spies, but Mr. Liu has not himself been accused of spying. Unless someone objects, I will remove him from this list too.--Shane Lin (talk) 07:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Anming Hu
Hu's case has resulted in a mistrial. Since the linked article on TheHill indicates that FBI falsely accused him of spying, I am moving the case to the "exonerated" section. This is also the first of the China Initiative cases to complete. If that merits a mention in the article intro, the FBI's false statements about him should also be there.--Shane Lin (talk) 07:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Edward C. Lin
This is a list of people accused of spying for the People's Republic of China. Lin's case involves, as best as I can tell from the linked source, a retired Republic of China naval officer. I am deleting him from the list. --Shane Lin (talk) 07:08, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

TODO cases

 * 曹国庆 http://www.tradesecretslaw.com/2013/10/articles/trade-secrets/two-former-eli-lilly-scientists-accused-of-stealing-55-million-in-trade-secrets-on-behalf-of-chinese-pharmaceutical-company-in-southern-district-of-indiana-indictment/
 * http://grandjurytarget.com/2014/06/12/is-this-trade-secrets-prosecution-crumbling-an-update-on-the-eli-lilly-case/
 * http://news.yahoo.com/charges-dropped-against-2-former-lilly-scientists-005651121.html

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Time for an overhaul
I am pinging the two of you because, as the title suggests, I am going to do an overhaul of this article and would welcome your help on this. I went through the history page and saw that you two were the ones who made substantial contributions to the page and are still editing actively. I think we can all agree that this page is long overdue for an overhaul - it hasn't caught up with the current events, it's clearly dealing with something important and the state the article is in now just isn't doing the subject matter justice. Hopefully, we can turn this page around to get a good article rating and, ideally, a featured article rating.

The layout in mind i have is to separate it into three parts. The first is the overview/background, then an arrest section and finally a commentary section. The first part is pretty explanatory. The second part would be a sortable table where the information of the case goes. And then the third one would be general reactions to the prosecutions (concerns about discrimination, need to defend national security, all that good stuff)

I'd be interested in hearing your inputs on this and will try to start work on this shortly; if/when I do I will be notifying you two again. Flaughtin (talk) 16:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Title change
The article was moved from List of alleged Chinese spy cases in the United States to List of alleged Chinese spy cases persecuted in the United States in December 2021. I have no opinion on whether the shorter or longer title is appropriate, but "persecuted" is the wrong term. I will move it to "prosecuted"; however I have no objection if anyone moves it back to the shorter title. Schazjmd  (talk)  19:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 30 October 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

List of Chinese spy cases in the United States of America → List of Chinese spy cases in the United States – Wikipedia style uses "United States", not "United States of America" (MOS:US) SimLibrarian (talk) 17:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support per nom Yoblyblob (talk) 17:27, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:CONCISE. This is just a reversal of a redirect that will restore the title used before a series of undiscussed moves starting in late 2021. Station1 (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:43, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT  Dank Jae  15:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)