Talk:List of Christian universalists

But how many of these people were really Universalists?
Hi Koavf, the substantial change and reformat noted. However,
 * (1) wouldn't chronological order be more useful than A-Z order in a history? ... suggestion.
 * (2) How many of these individuals were actually Universalists?

And, please take this in the right spirit, it's great to add new categories, as here using the hotcat tool but, it should be cats where there's already a decent modern ref source supporting that cat. Which in the case of Sergei Bulgakov 5 minutes research showed there wasn't.In ictu oculi (talk) 09:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I seriously question In ictu oculi conclusion about Origen that "now known not to have been a Universalist, see New Westminster Handbook on Origen." I've never heard of "New Westminster Handbook on Origen", only The Westminster Handbook on Origen, edited by John Anthony McGuckin, (Westminster John Knox Press, 2004), on which a google partial preview can be accessed here.
 * From what I read in the entry "Universalism" by Elizabeth A. Dively Lauro, the final conclusion is that in fact Origen IS a universalist. I shall quote her last paragraph in full here:
 * "A modified universalism was clearly Origen's fundamental soteriological belief, and though he manifested several internal doubts and qualifications in his exposition, probably because the common opinion of the church of his day was against him on many aspects of the idea, he nevertheless presents a coherent theological narrative, though one that was not consistent at every instance, and that gave his friends and critics in later ages room for further controversy on the subject (see Origenist crises)" (s.v. "Universalism", The Westminster Handbook on Origen, p. 214).
 * The article presents a lot of references from Origen's writings that supports this conclusion. If there are no objections, I move that Origen's name be readded to the list of Christian Universalists.
 * Ngawuraje (talk) 06:39, 29 March 2013 (UTC)