Talk:List of Danzan-ryū techniques

Isami Tsuki Nage
Who can give more information on Isami Tsuki Nage and how it differs from school to school? User5802 22:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Isami Tsuki Nage note
Professors Law, Estes, and Marion Anderson all spelled the 1st art as Isami Tasuki Nage. Professor Cahill spelled it Isami Tatsuki Nage. The Board in Master Okazaki's dojo spelled it Isami Tasuki Nage.

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I think it's worthwhile and beneficial to note the differences in spelling that are well documented at the reliable and notable source provided. The differences in how the technique is performed are also great, don't see how that is POV. User5802 04:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You could point out differences in performance for *any* technique. Singling out a single technique in a List article is mere Point-of-View, and irrelevant to the purpose of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.111.228.102 (talk) 07:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The technique was not singled out, the technique is well documented to have very different spellings. There is a reference given to that proof and you can read about it at the bottom of the reference given next to Isami Tsuki Nage. Furthermore, this is the ideal place to describe these techniques. Elaboration on specific information about one of these techniques may encourage others to share knowledge as well. While Isami Tsuki Nage, itself may not yet constitute it's own article, many other techniques such as Kote Gaeshi, Ude Garami, Tawara Gaeshi, Obi Otoshi, and Yama Arashi have already had articles written on them. Would you be opposed to an Isami Tsuki Nage article as well? User5802 04:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

(1) Since this is the *only* waza for which you chose to point out different versions, it is clear that you singled it out. (2) The difference is not a matter of spelling. Tasuki vs. Tsuki are *completely different* kanji, with utterly different meanings. There are DZR groups that adhere to each as correct. It is comparable to the difference between   Miken Wari  vs. Tomoe Ma Wari. (3) If you want to start a technique article, be my guest. Post a link to it here in the appropriate section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.111.228.102 (talk) 07:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok let's get some other opinions to help settle this minor issue. User5802 17:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If the differences are sourced then including them is legitimate somewhere and it is not pov, the question is where to include it. If there are differences in other techniques or groups of techniques then including those not removing this would seem the sensible option. Would it make more sense to write the article on the technique and include the info there? --Nate1481(t/c) 07:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There are *lots* of variants for *every one* of these techniques. Some are more common; some less. Some are identified with a particular lineage; others not so much. Trying to include them all would become *very* unwieldy, *very* fast. The place to detail the different variants would be in an article on the particular technique. That article could then be linked to the list here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.111.228.102 (talk) 08:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Alternate meanings of board names
The alternate meanings of the titles of these boards is important. Okazaki named the boards for a reason, and it should be the purpose of this article to display the factual names and meanings Okazaki intended for them. By removing certain meanings or titles, you are restricting further research or discussion on those titles. User5802 05:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of boards
It appears some are deleting boards from here, using the justification "deleted hiden techniks out of respect" Do not agree with this. If something is common knowledge it should not be removed from Wikipedia based on others considering it "hiden techniks" User5802 21:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Resubmitted Shinyo and Shinjen AGAIN after they were deleted with reason "teqniques with no refrences" by anonymous user User5802 11:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

If the list is "kuden" it should not be published on the wikipedia. At my dojo we don't do kuden if children or strangers are observing. There is a conflict here between the openness of information and the desire of the yudansha to keep advanced techniques from the uninitiated. I see no easy way to resolve this conflict. Johnny (talk) 01:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * As the information here is a list of names it does not actually explain the techniques this shouldn't be to much trouble. --Nate1481(t/c) 10:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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