Talk:List of Desperate Housewives characters

Dave
is dave williams coming back????

Redirected articles
All of these articles have now been redirected here, and as such, some of them might need some of their information (accessible from their page histories) merged into this article. -- Crazy Legs  KC  16:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Austin McCann (Desperate Housewives)
As with many other TV characters, this one is only notable within the context of the show. It's unlikely that there will ever be sufficient reliable third party sources that demonstrate he is a significant character who's article can go beyond mere WP:PLOT points. Pairadox (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, and the same goes for most (if not all) of the other DH character articles. They shouldn't have been re-created after they were redirected per this discussion. I'll work on merging any useful content they have into the list and redirecting them again within the next few days. -- Crazy Legs  KC  23:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Oy. I don't envy you that task, but I definitely support it. Pairadox (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge from Stella Wingfield
As with many other TV characters, this one is only notable within the context of the show. It's unlikely that there will ever be sufficient reliable third party sources that demonstrate he is a significant character who's article can go beyond mere WP:PLOT points. The characters is certainly less notable than many characters that already have been merged with strong consensus. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Info Boxes?
OK! Somebody better fix this about half of these people need their info boxes back like, Dylan Mayfair. for example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.221.176 (talk) 04:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Does someone want to answer this question? It's an important one.
 * Is someone gonna fix this problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.221.176 (talk) 05:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Edie - Mrs Britt?
In the first two seasons Julie repeatedly calls Edie 'Mrs Britt'. Why, if Britt is actually her mother's name and she never married a Mr Britt? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marthiemoo (talk • contribs) 23:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Surely you've answered your own question there

--TimothyJacobson (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Kayla
Why is she absent from this list? -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 23:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Who is the actor playing Susans new boyfriend?
Who is the actor playing Susans new boyfriend? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.17.34.25 (talk) 03:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to Ian, it's Dougray Scott--TimothyJacobson (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Felicia Tilman
The story for Felicia Tilman is very long. She was a very notable character, and she deserves to have her own page, so I am including everything in her story here on this list on a page all for herself. - Renaboss (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I think we can put a five lines long description and revert it back to a redirect. I can do it in a week if you want. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

"Adam Mayfair" must me merged as well. Plus, the notability of a character in the show and the notability of an article about a character is not the same thing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Split this page
I think that the current list of characters is really long and it is a mess, especially with the lots of redirects and the repeated section names (Immediate family, Season 1 introduced acquaintances, etc.) As the series is not completed yet, new information will be added to the current characters and more characters will appear. This will eventually get this list even larger and unreadable, and it is a violation of the article size policy. My proposal is to create 5 pages under the name of "Acquaintances of (the housewife's name)", namely Susan, Lynette, Bree, Gabrielle and Edie. I suggest this as the Wikipage on Notability states that minor characters should be sorted in minor characters' lists. This 5 pages as well as the current list of characters would get a section per character (similar to Characters of Final Fantasy VIII), to allow more information to be added, especially from those redirected characters who had individual articles. If there are no objections or suggestions, I will proceed with this in a few days. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  18:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A week has passed and there has been no opposition and, more important, no improvement of the article, so I will proceed with the split. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  18:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I notice that Katherine and Edie do not get their own pages, but merely sections. May I suggest that Edie get her own page (Acquaintances of Edie Britt) and Katherine has her own section in the current page. Also, Mary Alice gets her own section, as she is, indeed, a protagonist, along with the core five, and Katherine.

Merge from Tom Scavo
The article is unreferenced, contains only an extended WP:PLOT. We already have articles about the seasons where people can read the series plot there. I suggest we merge the article here. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why all the unnecessary merging? These characters, such as Tom, are pretty notable and deserve their own pages. If you have a problem with the articles then you should clean them up and making them more acceptable instead of just merging them. The lists of characters provide so little information, such as plot and curiosites about the characters on and off-screen. Individual articles are so much better. Andrew Van de Kamp, for example, has such a detailed and adequate page for him, can't they all be like that? I think they can, if we work together to make them all better. Of course, it'll be hard with all the vandalism and spoilers being put into the articles. -- Renaboss (talk) 19:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggested revamp of individual character pages
Because this show relies so heavily on flashbacks that are woven into the storylines, especially this past season, I think we should change the articles of the individual character choices. Instead of summarizing the events of the characters' lives by season (which in my opinion is dancing on the line of WP:PLOT), we should summarize their lives chronologically. There are flashbacks that aired in season five that take place in previous seasons and should be mentioned in those season's sections of the articles, if that makes sense. But to do that, we couldn't necessarily break the article up with "season one", "season two", etc. Maybe we could rename those sections "2004-2005", "2005-2006", etc (and I supposed "2008-2013" for anything that happened in the five year leap), or really anything that would allow us to accurately write the information in chronological order. Akcvtt (talk) 22:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't agree. All the material featured in the flashbacks can be featured in the "Early life" section, or perhaps in a "time gap" section (for the five year jump). Keep in mind that time is rarely mentioned onscreen, particularly starting with season five, so no one can really say the women are currently in 2014 or so, Marc Cherry has stated he likes to think Wisteria Lane is inside a time bubble. And some flashbacks that aren't part of the time gap or early lives of the characters before season one aren't even all that notable to be mentioned here on this online encyclopaedia, so to divide the pages into seasons is much more preferable. -- Renaboss (talk) 19:42, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Bring back old character pages
I know this has been stepped on over and over again, and I apologize in advance, but it actually annoys that new characters, such as Angie Bolen and Ana Solis, that have yet to make all that many appearances and prove they're all that noteworthy, get to have character pages just because they are currently on the series, when past regular and recurring characters have been so notable they are still mentioned to this day and some of 'em are actually currently on the series, and yet they have to be a part of lists of characters with very few info on them. I am (again, sorry for the repetitiveness) suggesting we bring back the pages for the following characters: Betty Applewhite, Karl Mayer, Rex Van de Kamp, Felicia Tilman, John Rowland, Paul Young, Danielle Van de Kamp, Matthew Applewhite, Zach Young, Dave Williams and Ian Hainsworth, and maybe create a page for Juanita Solis, who has proven to be very noteworthy. I think regular characters such as the Scavo kids, Caleb, George, Dylan, MJ, Austin, or Nick and Danny are still not notable enough to deserve their own pages, and as such shouldn't get them or have them brought back. As for the others I previously mentioned, they sure do, and if we can all work together we can bring them back and polish them to get them to be adequate and encyclopaedia-worthy. -- Renaboss (talk) 19:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Karl Mayer should have his own page. His character has enough backstory (information from his life pre-series) and he's been present in all six seasons so far, and very important in seasons two and six. I'll agree with you there. However, Betty and Matthew's pasts are mysterious. Nothing except their plot line in season two is known about them, and we cannot create individual articles that will just summarize plot. There has to be more information. Their sections in the character list article is sufficient. I would say that Rex and John could get their own pages, but they weren't on the show long enough to merit a well-written article. Ian and Felicia should not have their own articles at all. Recurring characters, unless recurring for the majority of the show's run, should not have their own articles. Paul, Zach, and Danielle are a different story. I would support your decision to create articles for them if we could scrounge up background information on the characters. Again, we can't just summarize plot. Akcvtt (talk) 06:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

The Scavo Dog
What breed is the Scavo dog, any ideas?x

Merge from Angie Bolen
I am proposing that the article Angie Bolen be merged with this article. The article was nominated for deletion in September, but it was kept because people decided to wait how important Angie became to the series. As she is no longer a main character and her storyline, which only lasted one season, was largely separate from the series' central characters, I do not think she requires an individual article. As of now, the page only contains one external source. It's highly unlikely that even with additional third party sources that the article will improve. Akcvtt (talk) 04:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I support the merge. Apart from storylines, seasons, etc., we must take notability outside the series into consideration. Angie has not received deep coverage independent from Desperate Housewives, no individual reviews and of course has not become a popular culture icon. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  00:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * No, why should you? If you merge Angie, why not merge others? It is a well written article, much better then some other articles on DH characters. Why do you merge so many things? Why not have an article for all main characters, like the LOST or grey's anatomy articles? -- Mr.Centreville 11:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Centreville (talk • contribs)


 * Don't merge it. I agree with centerville. all housewives should have their own article. and wtf, she was a huge storyline!!!!! She also had storylines with ALL the housewives during season 6, including Katherine! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.64.218 (talk) 03:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * These counter arguments do not hold up. We cannot keep Angie's article based on the fact that characters from Grey's Anatomy or Lost have articles. It doesn't matter what other articles exist or don't exist -- we are discussing the Angie Bolen article. She does not have the notability to merit a separate article. The character herself was only in one season of the series. Her storyline did cross over with other housewives' stories but she spent most of the season largely isolated. Additionally, the article is not well-written. It consists chiefly of a lengthy and overly-detailed plot, which should be avoided on Wikipedia. Also, there is only one external source. I would suggest cleaning up the article, but that would not change the fact that the character does not have enough notability to have her own article. And yes, while there are some problems with the other characters' articles, we cannot use those to either support or not support the merge. Akcvtt (talk) 22:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * It dosn't matter if she spent time by herself. She was important. So she was in one season? She has had more proinence then mcclusky during her run. Why merge these articles, its not like there is no room... Angie was important and there was alot of talk about Drea de Matteo joining the show, plus she was a housewife during her time on the show, so why merge it? And I only brought up grey's and lost because they are much better written, particularly losts. Angie's may not be the best written, but its ALOT better then some on here, like Gabby's. Plus, the list of DH characters is too long, and should only include minor/recurring characters. Mr.Centreville 19:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Centreville (talk • contribs)


 * Regardless of the fact that there is room for this article and how it compares to other articles, it is still not a good-quality article. It's poorly written and is just a summary of her storyline. Perhaps it's possible to redeem the article, but that would mean shortening the summary and expanding information about casting, character development, character personality, and critical reception. If that happens, then the article may be able to last for now, but we cannot leave it as is. Akcvtt (talk) 21:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Every other article is a summery of the character's storylines. Maybe I could try to improve the article, and there is plenty of information on the character out there that is not mentioned in the article. I think, and many would agree, the character was note worthy and important so we should try to improve it then. Mr.Centreville 12:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Centreville (talk • contribs)


 * This charatcer was important just ONE season, so it is not relevant. Some important characters don't have their own article, charactes like Karl Mayer. who is more important than Angie. Angie was as important as the Applewhites, who are listed on the characters list due to lack of importance. Fortunato luigi (talk) 06:14, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * So?? She still desearves an article, she WAS important. And if you merge all character who "arn't important", why not merge McClusky, she just pops in from time to time... Mr.Centreville (talk) 14:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Centreville (talk • contribs)


 * The thing is that Karen McCluskey is/has been an importan character for the series; she has been more than just one season, no matter if she was a guess star or a regular, and her character has been important for some plots. But with Angie is different, because she was only one season, and, like Betty Applewhite, se was just "important" during their respective season. Paul Young's article was merged cause her character was important for just two seasons, no more, and recently his article was brought back due to the fact that the character is coming back. Note: Paul Young was way more important than Angie Bolen (more plots and two seasons). In fact, Karl Mayer was more important than Angie, and still, he has no article, the same would apply for Rex and Danielle Van de Kamp, Zach Young, John Rowland, etc. Whose storylines make them more important than just-one-season-characters Betty, Dave and Angie. Angie's article must go! Fortunato luigi (talk) 06:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Absolutely rediculous! Who cares how long they have been in the series? They all are important characters, unlike mcclusky who is basically useless. Why in the world do you guys merge EVERYTHING to an article that is alrady too long? Why not have an article for all main characters, and save the list of DH page for the recurring characters???? It makes no sense since Angie, Dave, betty, etc. were crucial. Mr.Centreville 12:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Centreville (talk • contribs)


 * It appears that the general opinion is not to merge the article. I've been working on making it better by adding critical reception and development information, but it's still not a good article. For now, I'll close the discussion. Akcvtt (talk) 21:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Baxter - the cat
I thought that Baxter was Ida greenberg cat. She told that name in season 3 episode 8. This cat was brown with white abdomen and Toby (supposedly Ida cat) is grey. Michu1945 (talk) 10:12, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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Endless cuft and subcrufting
I am not certain that most of the content on Acquaintances of Susan Mayer is suitable encyclopedic content, let alone the fact that there are multiple Acquaintances of Susan Mayer types of lists - Fictional acquaintances?????? What type of madness has descended upon Wikipedia? Active Banana    (bananaphone  16:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

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Merge of Bob and Lee
I come with this proposal to merge both Bob Hunter (Desperate Housewives) and Lee McDermott since they have not managed to prove Notability outside the series, by having vast coverage by reliable secondary sources, as well as impact in popular culture. Even their role in the series is minor, they are not even secondary characters like Andrew or Karen McCluskey. Thoughts? -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  05:50, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No way. They appeared since season four and after you or someone merge this article to page List of Desperate Housewives characters, there will be only major events in their history and I can not agree with that. Sorry If my english is bad. I wrote this from Poland. Michu1945 (talk) 07:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the most effective solution is to merge both articles together as one called "Bob Hunter and Lee McDermott". The characters are notable, and between the two of them, they share most of the same production, plot, and critical reception information. Akcvtt (talk) 23:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I can agree with Akcvtt proposition. Michu1945 (talk) 06:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I also agree with Akcvtt. I would merge them into one article.  They are involved in enough storylines to merit an article, but they are usually together.  They do have cultural and social importance, as they are a married homesexual couple, living in suburbia and experiencing their share of problems, just like all the heterosexual couples.Lpwallaby (talk) 05:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Bob Hunter and Lee McDermott should be merged into one article. This has been done on Lost with couples such as Bernard and Rose and Nikki and Paulo, and that worked quite well. Sam10123 (talk) 05:50, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

The suggestion by Akcvtt and the arguments provided by Sam10123 sound good to me. I think that we can perform the merger into one single article after the series finale (I know this violates CRYSTALBALL, but I would prefer a longer discussion and see the final outcome of the series). -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  04:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I performed the merger per User:Akcvtt's suggestion and general agreement. Almost all information was kept, especially the real-world content in Bob's article. Lee had no development or impact sections. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  03:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Recommend removing Melanie Foster's bio
Melanie Foster is a tertiary character, mentioned in conversation and shown only in flashbacks. Her story is an integral part of the Applewhite brothers' story and is therefore already described in detail in their section. I just edited the bio for the Applewhites for grammar and structure, but this was already the case before I did so. Lpwallaby (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I did as suggested. Her description is a retell (just with different words) of what is already explained in Caleb and Matthew's section, first paragraph. Given that she is only a flashback character, I removed her section. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  06:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

MJ
This list doesn't even have MJ the son of who is arguably the shows main character(Susan). He should really be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.172.229 (talk) 18:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * He is featured at Acquaintances of Susan Mayer. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  20:18, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Merger of all Acquaintances pages
I come with this proposal to merge all Acquaintances pages into this list. The reason is because the characters are separated in a completely in-universe way, in several lists containing lots of minor characters (and some relevant ones), all of whom can be merged into one single, trimmed list. Right now, the four Acquaintances combined (Gabrielle's is already merged, and Susan's AfD result was "keep or merge"), plus the characters in the existing list would create a really large article. For this reason, I propose to: a) To trim the info on the remaining characters and b) Reduce the number of characters.

For the trimming thing, we have several really large sections such as Felicia's, Dave's or Ben's. They are really overdetailed, even containing entire pieces of conversations, which is against FICTION. However, I suggest that the trimming takes place AFTER the mergers and point b)

For the number of characters thing, I suggest to remove all characters that appear only in a brief arc within one season, and leave only those recurring characters that appear in at least two or more seasons, or that had appeared in a significant plot or number of episodes within the same season (like Ian or Jane). My proposal is the following:

Acquaintances of Susan:
 * Immediate family
 * Karl Mayer - keep
 * M.J. Delfino - keep
 * Extended family
 * Sophie Fickman - keep
 * Morty Fickman - remove (add anything relevant to Sophie)
 * Addison Prudy - remove (already covered in Susan's article, perhaps add anything relevant to Sophie)
 * Carol Prudy - remove
 * Nick Delfino - remove (only appears in one episode, add anything relevant to Mike's article)
 * Adele Delfino - remove (minor character in one episode with no continuity)
 * Laura Delfino - remove (same as above)
 * Tim Bremmer - remove (same as above)
 * Claire Bremmer - remove (same as above)
 * Julie's daughter - remove (anything can be added to Julie's article or Porter's section)
 * Season 1 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Deirdre Taylor - keep (short section belonging to major mystery character)
 * Noah Taylor - keep
 * Kendra Taylor - remove (move anything relevant to Noah or Deirdre's section)
 * Season 2 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Ron McCready - keep
 * Season 3 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Ian Hainsworth - keep
 * Season 5 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Jackson Braddock - keep
 * Principal Hobson - keep (appears in several seasons and involving many of Susan's arcs)
 * Season 7 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Maxine Rosen - remove (minor character with a plot that is already covered in Susan's article)
 * Season 8 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Andre Zeller - remove (same as Maxine's)

Acquaintances of Lynette: Keep all children, perhaps merging Patrick into Paige's section. Trim Paige's section anyway because half of it is about Lynette or Tom's problems and not a description on Paige.
 * Immediate family
 * Extended family
 * Stella Kaminsky - keep
 * Lydia and Lucy Lindquist - keep
 * Glen Wingfield - remove (minor character in one episode, add anything relevant to Stella's)
 * Frank Kaminsky - remove (same as Glen)
 * Kayla Huntington Scavo - keep
 * Rodney Scavo - remove (minor character in one episode with no continuity)
 * Allison Scavo - remove (minor character in two episodes with no continuity)
 * Porter's daughter - remove (same as "Julie's daughter" in Susan's section)
 * Season 1 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Jordana Geist - remove
 * Claire - remove
 * Dan Peterson - remove
 * Janie Peterson - remove
 * Annabel Foster - remove
 * Season 2 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Ed Ferrara - keep
 * Nina Fletcher - remove
 * Stu Durber - keep
 * Jerry - remove
 * Nora Huntington - keep
 * Season 3 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Rick Coletti - keep
 * Season 5 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Anne Schilling - remove (add anything relevant to Porter's section)
 * Warren Schilling - remove (add anything relevant to Porter's section)
 * Season 6 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Irina Korsakov - remove (add anything relevant to Preston or Eddie's section)
 * Season 8 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Jane Carlson - keep

Acquaintances of Bree:
 * Immediate family
 * Rex Van de Kamp - keep
 * Danielle Van de Kamp - keep
 * Trip Weston - keep
 * Extended family
 * Henry Mason - remove (minor character in one episode with no continuity)
 * Eleanor Mason - remove (same as Henry)
 * Fern Mason - remove (same as Henry)
 * Phyllis Van de Kamp - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Gloria Hodge - keep
 * Edwin Hodge - remove (flashback character, add anything relevant to Gloria or Orson)
 * Benjamin Katz - keep
 * Leo Katz - remove (add anything relevant to Danielle)
 * Alex Cominis - keep
 * Melina Cominis - remove (add anything relevant to Alex)
 * Sam Allen - keep
 * Season 1 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Albert Goldfine - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Maisy Gibbons - remove
 * Lee Craig - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Justin - keep
 * George Williams - keep
 * Tish Atherton - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Reverend Sykes - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Season 2 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Detective Barton - remove (add anything relevant to Bree or Rex)
 * Sam Bormanis - remove
 * Peter McMillan - remove (add anything relevant to Bree and Andrew)
 * Season 3 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Robert Falati - remove
 * Alma Hodge - keep
 * Carolyn Bigsby - keep
 * Monique Polier - keep
 * Harvey Bigsby - remove (add anything relevant to Carolyn)
 * Detective Ridley - remove (add anything relevant to Monique)
 * Season 7 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Keith Watson - keep
 * Richard Watson and Mary Wagner - remove (add aynthing relevant to Keith)
 * Amber James - remove (add anything to Keith)
 * Chuck Vance - keep

Acquaintances of Gabrielle: (already merged)
 * Immediate family
 * Juanita Solis - keep
 * Celia Solis - keep
 * Grace Sanchez - keep (few episodes but special plot, her parents and even Mrs. Charlotte can be trimmed and merge into her section)
 * Extended family
 * Juanita "Mama" Solis - keep (appears in subsequent seasons)
 * Lucía Márquez - remove (minor character in one episode with no continuity, add anything relevant to Gabrielle or Alejandro)
 * Alejandro Perez - keep
 * Connie Solis - remove (add anything relevant to Ana)
 * Ana Solis - keep
 * Season 1 Introduced Acquaintances
 * John Rowland - keep
 * Yao Lin - remove (no major plot involvement, appears only in season 1 and a minor scene in season 5)
 * Ashley Bukowski - remove (add anything relevant to John)
 * Father Crowley - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons)
 * Helen Rowland - remove (add anything relevant to John)
 * Jonathan Lithgow - remove (add anything relevant to Carlos)
 * Mr. Steinberg - remove
 * Season 2 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Xiao-Mei - keep (multiple episodes in at least two seasons)
 * Sister Mary Bernard - remove
 * David Bradley - remove
 * Vern - remove
 * Eugene Beale - remove (merge into Lily Collins)
 * Libby Collins - remove (merge into Lily Collins)
 * Frank Helm - remove (merge into Lily Collins)
 * Lily Collins - keep (the whole plot is all about her)
 * Season 3 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Victor Lang - keep
 * Season 4 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Ellie Leonard - remove (minor plot and only 4 episodes)
 * Season 5 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Virginia Hildebrand - remove (minor arc, add anything relevant to Gabrielle)
 * Bradley Scott - remove (add anything relevant to Carlos)
 * Maria Scott - remove (same as her husband)
 * Lucy Blackburn - remove
 * Season 6 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Jack Pinkham - remove (cover the whole arc in Grace's section)
 * Season 7 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Hector Sanchez - remove (same as Jack Pinkham)
 * Carmen Sanchez - remove (same as Jack Pinkham)
 * Miss Charlotte - remove (also same as Jack Pinkham, her intervention is in relation to Gabrielle's loss of Grace)
 * Season 8 Introduced Acquaintances
 * Claudia Sanchez - remove (add anything relevant to Alejandro)
 * Marisa Sanchez - remove (same as Claudia)

Rest of characters in the main List of Desperate Housewives characters:
 * Acquaintances of Edie Britt
 * Charles McLain - remove (add anything relevant to Edie or Travers)
 * Travers McLain - keep
 * Austin McCann - keep
 * Ilene Britt - remove (extremely minor appearance, mention her in Edie's article and that's it)
 * Dave Williams - keep
 * Lila and Paige Dash - remove (add anything relevant to Dave)
 * Dr. Samuel Heller - remove (same as above)
 * Umberto Roswell - remove (extremely minor appearance, mention him in Edie's article and that's it)
 * Acquaintances of Betty Applewhite
 * Caleb and Matthew Applewhite - keep
 * Acquaintances of Katherine Mayfair
 * Adam Mayfair - keep
 * Dylan Mayfair - keep
 * Wayne Davis - keep
 * Lillian Simms - keep
 * Sylvia Greene - remove (add anything relevant to Adam)
 * Robin Gallagher - remove (add anything relevant to Katherine)
 * Acquaintances of Angie Bolen
 * Nick Bolen - keep
 * Danny Bolen - keep
 * Rose de Luca - remove (minor character in one episode with no continuity
 * Emily Portsmith - remove (add anything relevant to Nick and Eddie)
 * Patrick Logan - keep (short section belonging to major mystery character)
 * Acquaintances of Renee Perry
 * Doug Perry - remove (extremely minor appearance, mention him in Renee's article and that's it)
 * Ben Faulkner - keep
 * Donny - remove (mention him in Ben, Mike and Renee's articles)
 * Acquaintances of Karen McCluskey
 * Roberta Simmons - remove (minor character, her whole appearances depend on McCluskey's, no plot of her own)
 * Roy Bender - keep
 * Acquaintances of Mary Alice Young
 * Zach Young - keep
 * Martha Huber - keep
 * Felicia Tilman - keep
 * Beth Young - keep
 * Jerry Shaw - remove (add anything relevant to Paul)
 * Other characters
 * Ida Greenberg - keep
 * Alberta Fromme - keep
 * Edwin Mullins - remove (extremely minor character)
 * Art Shepherd - remove (minor arc)
 * Rebecca Shepherd - remove (extremely minor character, even minor than her brother)
 * Eddie Orlofsky - keep (major arc in season 6)
 * Mona Clarke - keep
 * Detective Lyons- remove (minor intervention)
 * Detective Murphy - keep (multiple episodes in multiple seasons, covers various cases)
 * Mitzi Kinsky - keep
 * I said NO!!!! Pages of Acquaintances are good in just the way it is. Michu1945 (talk) 06:45, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * They are not "good" since they are not listed as "Good Articles" or something. The plot is repeated again and again in each of the 4 pages (three acquaintances and the main list). The best is to trim, reduce the number of characters and merge. I think I'm doing so with Susan's per the result of the AfD. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  01:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Since there was no improvement of the Acquaintances pages, and per Susan's Acquaintances AfD, I will perform the mergers and the trimming of the lists. I will do first the mergers and then the trimming. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  01:05, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

New structure of the article
I rearranged the presentation of the article to present the characters in a more objective way, rather than sorting them by relationship to a housewife, which is in-universe. Originally, we had "Acquaintances of [each housewife]" articles, but they were merged precisely for the same reason: the characters were presented in a in-universe way. Some of the characters are acquaintance or even family members of more than one housewife; for instance, Noah and Deirdre Taylor were listed as "acquaintance" of Susan but never met her, and developed more into Mary Alice's storyline. Principal Hobson, who is also presented as acquaintance of Susan, develops more into Gabrielle's storyline in seasons 6 and 8. Justin was first introduced as John Rowland's friend and into Gabrielle's storyline until he becomes Andrew's boyfriend. And so on.

I sorted the characters according to the star billing in the series. All characters that received at least once a "Starring" credit were featured as "Main characters", no matter if they have their own articles or appear in few or lots of episodes (for example, Danielle or the Scavo twins are much more important for me than Ana Solis, yet they never received "Starring" status). Same happens with those who were "Also starring", which are presented as "Secondary characters". The rest of the characters are presented as "recurring characters". -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  02:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Basics of Horse Racing Betting

हॉर्स रेसिंग सट्टेबाजी घुड़दौड़ की मूल बातें एक शानदार खेल है और एक दुनिया भर में लोगों के लाखों लोगों द्वारा मज़ा आया है। अन्य और कई दौड़ बैठकों बड़ी भीड़ को आकर्षित या एक देश में वर्ष के लगभग हर दिन जगह लेता है रेसिंग। बड़ी मीटिंग्स भी, टीवी पर दर्शकों को भी बड़ा अर्थ करते हैं। इन दर्शकों का एक छोटा सा प्रतिशत विशुद्ध रूप से इस खेल के रोमांच के लिए, लेकिन यह सब के बारे में सट्टेबाजी है ज्यादातर लोगों के लिए देखो। हॉर्स रेसिंग पर दाँव बनाता है यह एक भी बेहतर अनुभव देख। यह सिर्फ तथ्य यह है कि आप कुछ पैसे जीत सकते हैं नहीं है, यह सिर्फ समग्र उत्तेजना के लिए कहते हैं। बाहर फ्लैट में अंतिम सीधे जाने के लिए और उसके बाद समाप्त अपने घोडे  को देखकर सबसे पहले एक सरासर खुशी पिछले पोस्ट है। यह वास्तव में आश्चर्य है कि इस दुनिया में सट्टेबाजी का सबसे लोकप्रिय रूपों में से एक नहीं है।  हॉर्स रेसिंग सट्टेबाजी अधिकांश भाग के लिए वास्तव में बहुत सरल है। यह निश्चित रूप से कुछ अधिक जटिल पहलुओं हैं, लेकिन यह वास्तव में कि आरंभ करने के लिए मुश्किल नहीं है। तुम बस How To Bet On Horse Racing रेस के घोड़े और घोड़े रेसिंग, तो आप वास्तव में नहीं कर रहे हैं के प्रकार के एक प्रशंसक तो आप घुड़दौड़ सभी घोड़ों और सभी दौड़ बहुत ही ज्यादा सोच सकते हैं कि। यह काफी सच्चाई से दूर है। वहाँ कई अलग नस्लों competitively दौड़ घोड़ों और हॉर्स रेसिंग के विभिन्न रूपों की एक संख्या हैं। जबकि यह बिल्कुल नहीं इन सब के बारे में समझने के लिए आवश्यक है, यह इस शर्त करने के लिए आता है, जब इस संबंध में ज्ञान का एक छोटा सा काफी उपयोगी हो सकता है। आप निम्न पृष्ठों के बारे में अधिक सीख सकते हैं।  दौड़ HorsesTypes के घोड़े कैसे करने के लिए शर्त पर घोड़े RacingBasics के घोड़े रेसिंग सट्टेबाजी रेसिंग हॉर्स रेसिंग के प्रकार एक शानदार खेल है और एक दुनिया भर में लोगों के लाखों लोगों द्वारा मज़ा आया है। अन्य और कई दौड़ बैठकों बड़ी भीड़ को आकर्षित या एक देश में वर्ष के लगभग हर दिन जगह लेता है रेसिंग। बड़ी मीटिंग्स भी, टीवी पर दर्शकों को भी बड़ा अर्थ करते हैं। इन दर्शकों का एक छोटा सा प्रतिशत देखो खेल के रोमांच के लिए विशुद्ध रूप से लेकिन ज्यादातर लोगों के लिए  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjay khan (talk • contribs) 09:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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