Talk:List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters

Deletion
I'd rather this page not get deleted again. I'm working on making it better than the old one, with ALL of the characters included. E.B. (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I think we should merge Greg Heffley into this article because this article lists all of the characters, including Greg. If we include all of the information in the Greg Heffley article here, it will be easier to access. If the page is merged, I will put a redirect to this page on the Greg Heffley article. E.B. (talk) 02:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really think it should be merged.66.99.23.194 (talk) 19:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Heh
It's nice to see how far this page has come since I made it. E.B. (talk) 07:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The movie
The page isn't so bad, but just watch out for spelling errors, because I just found some (which I already edited). Also, instead of putting "He/She does not appear in the movie" for almost all of the characters, can we just put "He/She appears in the movie" for the ones that do appear? 74.46.30.192 (talk) 21:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Greg's mother or Susan?
I have noticed that Greg's mom is constantly being referred to as 'Susan' and occasionally his father as 'Frank'. I know that these are their first names, but why can't they be called 'Greg's mother/father'? For some reason calling them by their first names seems a little weird to me. --Letsy2 (talk) 06:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Just stick with calling them Frank and Susan, OK?-- Cega LEGO  log  99!  18:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Extremely Minor Characters
After staring at this article for a long amount of time, I've decided that there are many characters listed that don't belong there at all. These include:


 * The Whirley Street Kids
 * Lenwood Heath
 * David Nester
 * Archie F. Kelly
 * Bill Walter
 * Ward
 * Scotty Douglas
 * Mr. Warren
 * Bryce Anderson
 * Larry Larkin
 * Mrs. Canfield
 * Leon Ricket
 * Jeremy Pindle
 * Fregley's Mother
 * Mr. Gupta
 * Killer
 * Nutty
 * Darren Walsh
 * Aunt Loretta
 * Aunt Lydia
 * Aunt Brenda
 * Uncle Gary
 * Rowley's Grandfather
 * And most of Greg's teachers

I have come to the idea that these characters certainly do not belong here because they have either only appeared once in the series, not at all (only mentioned), or have no major role in the plot. Since I am sure that if I just go and delete all of these sections somebody will panic and put them all back, I will wait for several people to comment on this. Thank you. Letsy2 (talk) 11:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think they should be kept for the reader's interest. Maybe you should merge related characters?--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The bottom line is that we need to let the RS sources define what we write. If the minor characters are acknowledged in RS sources writing about the books then they get included. If not then we can't write anything verifiable about them anyway and we should leave them out. I would also add that lists like this are often a magnet for vandals. It is so easy for them to sneak in a made-up character and not have anybody notice for a while. This is why verifiability matters. --DanielRigal (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I actually didn't wait for several people to comment and removed some of these characters from the list. Sorry about that. [laughs nervously] Letsy2 (talk) 18:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Fregley Spundervick is an absolute beast of a human being and my god is he ever sexy.

New section?
Instead of deleting the minor characters in the Secondary Characters section, how about putting all of those characters in a NEW section called Minor Characters. Lenwood Heath, however, should stay in the Secondary Characters section.--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 00:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Take that back, take that back. This is getting awkward enough, and I don't want it getting more awkward. I like the article (except for its awkwardness) the way it is.--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 14:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Now the unimportant characters ARE deleted. Good.-- Cega LEGO  log  99!  17:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I have removed some more insignificant characters. The animals to be specific. Be bold! 43?9enter (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Greg Heffley article
Why did the Greg Heffley article get deleted? Since he's the main character, shouldn't he get his own article, like Phineas Flynn or Bart Simpson.

--24.188.236.175 (talk) 22:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Even though Greg is the main character of the Wimpy Kid series, there honestly isn't enough about him to write a full article for him. If you compare the articles on Phineas and Bart to the one that there had been on Greg, you would probably be able to see that the latter was much less detailed and not as well written.  One paragraph for him here is enough.  Letsy2 (talk) 23:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * There was disagreement about whether the character was notable enough for an article anyway but the real problem was that the article was full of unsourced personal interpretations. There was nothing in it worth saving. I still think that a short but decent article could probably be written but it would have to be scrupulously sourced from reliable sources, not just people's own interpretations. Once all the professional reviews of the film are out then there should be plenty of source material. That said, a section in the characters article serves the same purpose just as well.
 * You can read the complete deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Greg Heffley. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)\

Okay, then. So no Greg Heffley article. But can we at least include an image? --J.Severe (talk) 17:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to be confused by me!Gregory Heffley (talk) 20:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Rowley section overflowing with detail
The Rowley Jefferson section is unusual because it has a bunch of minor details. That is one of only two sections that have the intricate-detail problem. The other is Rowley's dad. Please remove unnecessary info. It's better for all sections to have fairly general information than for all to be overflowing with detail. Just don't make the info TOO general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cegalegolog99 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC) Don't you think the intricate detail problem is fixed know? :-)--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 01:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute. Those queries were way back when I was a n00b. I've noticed that the minor character sections have more relative detail than the main character sections. That's OK, isn't it?-- Cega LEGO  log  99!  13:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Last names (especially Fregley's!)
Not an incorrect last name but first name. Heather Hills should be Holly Hills. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherrypie34 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Don't add last or middle names of characters unless you're 100% sure. Remember when someone added Fregley's last name? Since that guy said Fregley's last name is Spundervick, that is probably vandalism. Fregley's last name has never been mentioned in the books, and probably won't be mentioned in the movie. If it is ever, it probably won't be Spundervick.

The statement that Angie's last name is Steadman might also be vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cegalegolog99 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Just recently, someone said that Fregley's last name is Farley. Did that appear at the bottom of the list? If so, please tell me. If not, erase it.--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Angie's last name? THAT last name was probably not recognized as vandalism. Maybe it's mentioned in the movie?--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, so Angie's last name is right, Fregley's is wrong.--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

This is no longer a problem.~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 23:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC) (formerly Cegalegolog99) I agree.It is vandalism.(UTC)(Greenycric) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenycric (talk • contribs)

Angie
If the movie plot section was expaded, why isn't the Angie section expanded? You can expand that section if you watched the movie. Also note that her real name might be Angela. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cegalegolog99 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it.--Cegalegolog99 (talk) 01:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Trim this down!!
I saw this article, and I realized it was WAY too long. Perhaps there are some characters that need to be removed? Railer-man (talk) 21:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Kinda what I thought, but nobody really agreed with me.... --  Letsy2   ♦   Talk   19:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with you, either.~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 23:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you. I think the "Animals" section should be removed. And make Greg's Classmates and Gregs teachers one section, calling it Greg's School and have sub-sections Student's and Teachers. Same with Greg and Rowley's Family. Make it one section and call it Relatives of Greg and Rowley. 50.46.237.146 (talk) 20:54, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Overall
Overall, I'd rate this page a "C+". Here's a few suggested improvements:

Cega LEGO  log  99!  02:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC) (now Wimpy Fanboy)
 * Detail
 * Images
 * Clarity
 * Neutrality
 * Layout (which I improved)

Semi-protection
I think this article should be semi-protected, shouldn't it?~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 23:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm so inexperienced that I don't know how it's done, but yes, I think it should be. Quite a bit of vandalism going on here since the series is pretty popular. --  Letsy2   ♦   Talk   19:21, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right, Letsy2. Hey, does anyone know how to semi-protect an article? %-( ~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 14:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I did some research, and found that only admins can.:-( That should be done to ALL Wimpy Kid articles.~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 20:59, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm...actually I was also poking around to find more about page protection, and what I read didn't really make it sound like only admins could do that stuff. I think I'll try asking somebody... --  Letsy2   ♦   Talk   04:46, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Look at this page: Protection policy.~ Wimpy Fan boy  t g 23:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite
I strongly believe this page needs a complete rewrite. I fixed a lot of huge errors with run-ons and associated things, but it's still hard to read through and understand. Anyone agree? Cyan Ryan (talk) 07:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No way!!~ Wimpy Fan boy  chit-chat?sign mine! 17:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs)
 * Why not? It's messy and cluttered. Cyan Ryan (talk) 02:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll improve it.~ Wimpy Fan boy  chit-chat?sign mine! 22:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs)
 * Look at the "Serious problems" section. ~ Wimpy Fan boy ''' my talksign! 22:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs)

Way too much detail
C'mon, people. This list doesn't need a giant paragraph for each character. We only need 2-4 sentences per paragraph. This is not Wimpy Kid Wikia or something. ~ Wimpy Fan boy  chit-chat?sign mine! 00:46, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been working on that. MathMaven (talk &#124; edits) 13:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Serious problems
This list quality dropped down from C+ to D. Here's a list of the problems:


 * 1) Most importantly, there is WAY too much detail. No one other than a fan would like to know so much. Please do not put trivia.
 * 2) Also, there are way too many minor characters who weren't at all important in the story. This is basically a tributary to the first.
 * 3) Number three, there isn't enough references, so no one can be sure it's right. (Note to smart alecks: Please don't give exceptions.)
 * 4) Number four, I know agree with Cyan Ryan's comment about the rewrite. This page; as it is, as of November 13, 2010; is really not Wikipedia-appropriate. It needs a total rewrite.
 * 5) Number five, the grammar is horrible. I need to (somewhat exhaustingly) edit it over and over and over again.
 * 6) Sixth of all, stay away from words like "perhaps" and "maybe". These inferences about characters are plausible but not plausible enough.

P.S. Compare this list to the list of SpongeBob SquarePants characters.

~ Wimpy Fan boy ''' my talksign! 02:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have started working on this. MathMaven (talk &#124; edits) 16:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Turbo Team TV Series
There hasn't been any TV or related media about Diary of a Wimpy Kid except for the movie(s). Or at least not official TV shows. I'm gonna get rid of this junk NOW! ~ Wimpy Fan boy ''' my talksign! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs) 00:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm too lazy to do this, but please get rid of any junk!!!! Whoever those vandals are...|:( ~ Wimpy Fan boy ''' my talksign! 00:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Stop!
We thank all the editors of this article. But most of you aren't making it better; you're just making it worse.

I recommend a 2-week protection to shape up this article and then lowered to a semi-protection.

Thank you,

~ Wimpy Fan boy ''' my talksign! 00:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs)

really?
greg isnt geeky —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.237.144 (talk) 18:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Of the teachers and their significance in this article
Most of the teachers are only mentioned once. Therefore, I am requesting that we remove the teachers completely. Such information is trivial. 43?9enter (talk) 00:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Greg  Heffley   20:44, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Missing characters.
Can someone please add: The Whirley Street Kids, Lenwood Heath, David Nester, Archie Kelly, Bill Walter, Ward, Scotty Douglas, Mr. Warren, Bryce Anderson, Larry Larkin, Mrs. Canfield, Leon Ricket, Jeremy Pindle, Fregley's Mother, Mr. Gupta, Killer, Nutty, Darren Walsh, Aunt Veronica, Aunt Loretta, Aunt Lydia, Aunt Brenda, Uncle Gary, Rowley's Grandfather And most of Greg's teachers? Despite being minor characters they both were adapted into the movies so I think that at least makes them important enough. I mean they appeared more than quite a few characters on this list.

Dartpaw86 (talk) 14:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)Dartpaw86

Addition
WHt about Billy Staples? If Nasy Pants is notable than so is Billy Staples. Flygon's friend- Smarter than the average bear! 20:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Surprising lack of main character info
There is barely any coverage of the main characters, except for their roles in the movies. Either we should trim the movie content, or expand the book data. I am in favor of both. Greg being a small section is OK (he has an article), but Rodrick is only 4 sentences long except for the movie info,which spans three paragraphs(For comparison, Greg's dad only has his actor listed). Also Rowley is given the middle name Benjamin for no reason I know of. I erased it, but you can put it back if the info was right and I didn't check.- Alexschmidt711 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexschmidt711 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Page Protection
Hey everyone. I would like it if this page was semi-protected. Recently, there has been a lot of vandalism. Thanks. LPS and MLP Fan (talk) 00:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2019
I said it below vvv

There's so many mistakes... Now whenever I look up who Greg's brother is it comes up as Susan. Susan is his mother. Please fix it, and if you won't then please let me fix it. 71.161.201.88 (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Þjarkur (talk) 14:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2019
Rodrick, Susan and Frank, as drawn by Greg 217.44.242.81 (talk) 20:07, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:56, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 04:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cartoon version of Rodrick Heffley .png

Major Characters
Greg Heffley Rowley Jefferson Susan Heffley Frank Heffley Rodrick Heffley Manny Heffley Fregley

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2020
I noticed that there is misinformation included in several different characters' bios and language that is biased and subjective, so I would like to edit some of the word choices in order to make this article fairer and objective. Ptolemy33 (talk) 03:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. — Tartan357   ( Talk ) 03:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

"Greg’s best friend" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Greg’s best friend. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 27 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hog Farm (talk) 15:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

“The Manny”
There was vandalism about “the manny,” an activist symbol for blm, on a page for the name “Manny” and I thought it would be appropriate to put information about it here. Someone reverted my edit and not realizing, I thought it was a bug and put it back up. Is there a better place to put information about the manny or should there be another article? YellowBlack (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi there, the only source I could find for it was https://stayhipp.com/internet/memes/manny-from-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-becomes-blm-symbol/ which isn't the most reputable of sources. It seems it's more of a joke (there have been a lot of edits about Manny being a terrorist, serial killer, etc.) and that is what got the page locked in the first place. So until there is more coverage and more than a handful of "memers" actually doing it, it really doesn't need to be included (see WP:PLOT). If you want, I can get some other people to weigh in. If I were you though, I'd create a user page. Not having one makes you seem like a vandal (no offense). : ) Why? I Ask (talk) 06:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

alright, thanks. i’ll get on the user page thing :) YellowBlack (talk) 16:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2020
In a recent TikTok trend, Manny Heffley has recently taken on a new purpose: to confuse Fox News to think that this drawing a radical left hate symbol. This movement is called "The Manny will not be televised." Samjamesfarrell (talk) 01:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (i.e. news sources independent from this TikToker). GoingBatty (talk) 03:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2020
Mmzrsv2 (talk) 14:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC) Manny's page is wrong
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  JTP (talk • contribs) 14:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2022
{{subst:trim|1=

In the section Greg Heffely, please add the following, which has been deleted due to vandalism:

Gregory "Greg" Heffley is 11 years old in the first novel. Greg's actions can be antagonistic at times, including terrorizing kids, trying to steal money from a church collection basket, lying in confession, picking on other students, playing pranks on his best friend, selling falsely advertised "fitness water," and praying for bad stuff to happen to others. He also is a very bad friend. However, he also demonstrates a degree of kindness in some of his actions. He helps his brother with his homework, gets his friend a date for a dance, and forgives his friends. Greg is portrayed by Zachary Gordon in the first three films, and Jason Drucker in the fourth film.
 * {{done}}{{snd}}thanks for pointing this out. Giraffer {{sup|(talk·contribs)}} 22:46, 12 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I can also vouch for this paragraph's validity. -- 173.20.216.139 (talk) 01:16, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Greg heffley
He is a jerk to his own freind, Rowley jefforson. 24.4.176.60 (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Removal of article vandalism
Hello, can somebody with sufficient privileges please remove the following non-factual string from the article:

and is widely regarded as a psycopath.

Present under 1 Main Characters > 1.5 Manny Heffley, as of revision 23:44, 4 June 2022.

Thank you. -- 173.20.216.139 (talk) 01:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

✅ --LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop and My Little Pony Fan) 01:58, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help! -- 173.20.216.139 (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022
Remove "in the first novel" from the Greg Heffley section and replace "11" with "12". HansTheExplorer (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

✅ This has already been done, also done by HansTheExplorer. HansTheExplorer (talk) 04:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2022
Manny Heffley is 4 years old according to the new Diary of a Wimpy Kid book 2A02:C7C:5E0E:CE00:4178:5DB1:1BC1:8F31 (talk) 18:30, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 18:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

MANNY NO
Some anon screwed up manny. Please fix Baconcartoonist (talk) 21:10, 16 March 2023 (UTC)