Talk:List of Dukes of Modena

List of dukes of Modena is incorrect because the correct denomination of the Duchy is "Duchy of Modena and Reggio". So in my opinion it would be better to move the informations of this page to a new page "List of Dukes of Modena and Reggio" and make a redirect from "list of Dukes of Modena" --Paolo da Reggio 22:46, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Do you think Duchy of Modena should also be moved? Personally, I think they're both fine where they are, although the articles should mention Reggio, because the full name is rarely used, and "Modena" is the common short form. john k 23:25, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hallo John!

Yes, I think Duchy of Modena should also be deleted and make a redirect to the complete name. In old maps the Duchy is called both of Modena and Reggio. Also, the duke Borso d'Este received from the emperor Frederick III the investiture as duke of Modena and Reggio, not Modena alone. The court was mostly in Modena, but during the year for a time it transferred to Reggio. At a small scale, to call "Modenese" a "Reggiano" is the same as calling Scottish an English or an Irish.

--Paolo da Reggio 18:19, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Is it correct to say "Duchy of Modena and Reggio", or is the correct thing "Duchies of Modena and Reggio"? 18:48, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I think it is correct Duchy of Modena and Reggio (Ducato di Modena e Reggio) but it is also called "Stati estensi" (States of Este) and "Domini estensi" (dominions of Este). I have a reproduction of a map of 1847 of the "Stati estensi" and they are Modena, Reggio, Frignano, Guastalla, Garfagnana, Lunigiana, Massa e Carrara. The last three are in Tuscany. The renaissance poet Ludovico Ariosto (born in Reggio) was, for a time, governator of Garfagnana, in the Appennines, which was a problem for the spirit of rebellion of its inhabitants.

--Paolo da Reggio 20:34, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)