Talk:List of EastEnders characters (2009)

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Les Finnis
Who is he? His name redirects here but he's not listed. Is it a mistake? anemone │  projectors  22:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Sarah McCrea. anemone  │  projectors  22:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I found them in the page history. Someone removed them, probably through vandalism, and it was never reverted. I've added them back! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

"Man"
Is this a joke? Can this not be covered in Whitney's article until he gets a name?  GunGagdin Moan 12:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that's the name they credited him with. I think he should still be mentioned here. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 12:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We've never included anyone who was un-named here before. What about girl in r&r from a few weeks ago, or man buying a fig roll from the minute mart? lol  GunGagdin Moan 12:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Were they credited? I don't remember them but this "man" is probably significantly more important then they were. But I don't mind either way. But what if he never has a name? Oh by the way, I initially had him in the "others" because he was unnamed. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 12:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I hadnt realised it was you who added him :0) I'm sure he'll get a name and until then, It doesnt really matter I suppose. Just that man could refer to anyone, and when I saw it on the character list I thought someone was taking the piss.  GunGagdin Moan 12:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We can put him back in the "others" again. I thought he was better off there, someone else moved him out of that part. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 12:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably was better there, but I should imagine he'll need his own section anyway as he will feature more, so let's leave him and we can give a name when he is named.  GunGagdin Moan 12:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

We should probably wait to here more about "man".--Spock a (talk) 18:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that this article should surely be deleted by now --Spock a (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean the section about the man? I was under the impression he'd be back. It's all been focussed on the Mitchells lately, and Stacey Slater this week, so give it a while longer. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

He will feature more, sorry for over-reacting:)--Spock a (talk) 18:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope you're right. I think it would be stupid for the front page of a TV guide to say something like "Whitney has a stalker" when it was just a character looking at her in two episodes. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * My suspicion is that he's her brother. "Man" is cute.  GunGagdin Moan 21:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Whitney's brother? OMG! Hmm I forgot what he looked like. Someone said his name is Ryan, can that be confirmed? I reverted it. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I havent seen a source but I shall keep my eye out.  GunGagdin Moan 22:13, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone had a source hes called Ryan because I don't recall hearing it on a episode or the news? Sir jude 100 (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He still hasn't been referred to by name in the show; even in the credits he's still "Man". The reference given is just the webcam page, but I accepted it in good faith as they do have dialogue on there, but it changes daily. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, cool... didn't realize it was on the webcam page :) Sir jude 100 (talk) 07:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It might not have been as I never saw it, I just accepted it in good faith. To be honest I'd be surprised if it was there, as all Diederick Santer would ever say about him is that "he's a character played by an actor," so I think his real identity is a big secret. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 10:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, fair enough lol 78.146.220.21 (talk) 10:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Debra Dean
I was wondering if the 'last appearance' should be removed from Debra's section as she will be returning. On the character page perhaps she should be moved into the Recurring Characters. I don't have a source but in Inside Soap it mentioned she will return at the same time as 'Man' aka Ryan. Please reply if you have any suggestions. Who niverse 93 22:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think that's fine for both suggestions. If Inside Soap happens to be wrong, the last appearance will be in the edit history so we wont lose it.  GunGagdin Moan 22:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I sometimes wonder if we should comment out last appearances for characters we're not sure about, and just update it every time they appear, then when we're sure they're gone, we can unhide the date. For example, James and Ellis, both in the "others" section of this page. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that's an excellent idea.  GunGagdin Moan 23:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree, it would be easier than trying to work out if characters have completely left or not. Who niverse 93 23:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Can anybody confirm Debra's year of birth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.139.138 (talk) 09:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No idea, I don't think it was ever mentioned. Was she 14 when she had Ryan? Anemone  Projectors  12:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would have thought she got pregnant at age 16 at least since Ryan's father was an alcoholic and would have been 18+. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.139.138 (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Ryan's last name is Dean
http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/

Look at the offical site. It says on the hompage:

News Meet the new bad boy, Ryan Dean.

92.20.103.247 (talk) 14:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * According to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lsvks he's called Ryan Malloy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harleyamber (talk • contribs) 00:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Loan Shark
Did anyone catch the name of the loan shark??,i think he should be added to this list.......brian moore (talk) 22:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No but the tall bald man employed by the loan shark is Isaacs played by Tony Pritchard. The loan shark hasn't appeared. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Silly me. When I got home, I realised I had written it down. It's Martina Callis. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh no sorry thats the lad i meant,you see i thought he was the loan shark but i made a mistake:Dbrian moore (talk) 19:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As I'm not around to make major edits, I'm keeping a list of all the minor characters until I'm able to update the article properly. Isaacs is one of them. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh are you taking a break or something?? brian moore (talk) 15:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Take a look at the notice at the top of my talk page. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

DC Cunningham
Does anyone know her last appearance date please? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Barbara
On 15 December there was a character called Barbara. Does anyone know who she was? I don't really have the time (or patience) to watch the episode again! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Afia
Was it actually mentioned on screen that Afia is related to Bushra and her daughters? I know Digital Spy said Afia was Bushra's cousin, but I don't remember hearing anything said on screen. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes Bushra introduced her to Zainab as a cousin of her family Brianwazere 21:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I must have missed it. Did she say whose cousin she is? Because I originally put that Afia and Bushra are cousins but it was changed to niece and aunt, presumably due to Afia's age. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

When did it say that Bushra was Afia's aunt? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.146.188 (talk) 01:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Way back in December 2009 when she first appeared. Anemone  Projectors  02:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Watching the episode from Tuesday, I don't think Afia is Bushra's niece. In the conversation between Zainab and Bushra, Bushra doesn't know very much about Afia's family when Zainab asks and she says that she hears Afia's family is wealthy. Seems like it's been written out that they are related for the current storyline, or just forgotten about. Should we change the article? LostHavoc (talk)  03:14, 26 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I always thought it was pretty unlikely anyway. I mean, Tamwar calls Bushra "aunty Bushra" but they're not related. The Masoods have mentioned several aunts and uncles and I bet none of them are related. So maybe it was meant like that. Anemone  Projectors  03:23, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Qadim Shah
Gone? Returning? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Since nobody replied, but someone just removed him from the characters' template, I'm treating him as departed and making updates now. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Todd Taylor
Is he gone out of EastEnders?? Brianwazere 23:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Whitney dumped him for Billie. anemoneprojectors   talk  23:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well then he should be considered as a past character instead of a regular Brianwazere 23:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I fixed it after you asked. anemoneprojectors   talk  00:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Kim Fox
We should remove Kim's last appearance as she will be back. There was a script peek in August on the Eastenders' website with Kim and Bianca. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.169.52.101 (talk) 12:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah. Here's the link. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastenders/2010/07/have-you-noticed.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.169.52.101 (talk) 12:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the source, nobody was providing one before, hence the reversions. Anemone  Projectors  12:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

should kim have her own page maybe think about splitting her off? She doesnt have many refernces but she has ben there for a year and her info is getting quite big.--MayhemMario (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You did ask this recently on WT:EE, and the situation hasn't changed since. – Anemone Projectors – 18:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mario,she can be split uf u look for more sources and improve the commentary sections. look foward to seeing ur improvements.  GunGagdin Moan 19:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that on Kim Fox'x storylines it syas that Denise said no to the B&B bein g in the house but then in yesterdyas episode it opens so shall we put 'Denise said no at first but later agreed?'--MayhemMario (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think Denise said no to going into business with Kim, which is why it's Kim's solo venture. – Anemone Projectors – 15:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Becca
How do you know Becca has left EastEnders she could return before Stacey leaves so i dont think you should put her in past cast until you know other wise.--Sheep 2009 (talk) 12:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Because she left. If she returns, we can update it then. But for now, she is a past character. Anemone  Projectors  13:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * that ok then.--Sheep 2009 (talk) 13:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This weeks Inside Soap (2-8 October) says that there are no current plans to bring Becca back. - JuneGloom07    Talk?  15:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good! Cos nobody I've spoken to wants her back. Anemone  Projectors  17:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Afia's home
Is Afia living with the Masoods now? She has no home listed here but Yusef has moved to Albert Square without her. Or maybe Yusef is just staying on weekdays and going home at weekends, like many people do who work away from home. We don't know if he has a wife now, do we? – Anemone Projectors – 14:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * yeah he does have a wife as she has been mentioned a few timjes, i.e. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/spoilers/a304853/masood-and-yusef-have-a-furious-showdown.html it says that it was her mother's ring maybe meaning that she died? I think it may ahve said that but i cant remember.... She defiently dosent live with the Masood's as they would have shown her moving in, shall we just list her residnece as 'outside of walford'?--MayhemMario (talk) 16:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It's clear he had a wife at some point or Afia wouldn't exist, but if said wife still exists Afia would be with her. If not, where's Afia living? I wouldn't say she's outside Walford in case she's inside Walford :) – Anemone Projectors – 16:22, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * shall we just leave it for now as her mother who works abroad may come back for the wedding, so we'll wait for that and about her home maybe 'The World'!!--MayhemMario (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh she works abroad? Hmm maybe Afia is left alone then, which seems a little odd. Which is why I thought she probably moved in with the Masoods. Let's wait and see. – Anemone Projectors – 17:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

it says on her profile on the eastenders site that its walford so shall we countit as that? Afia Khan --MayhemMario (talk) 13:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

oh and also it says that her mother has died =(--MayhemMario (talk) 13:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Lisa Shah
If you type in 'Lisa Shah' into wiekpdia it comes up with the character she played, not the actress could we fix this?--MayhemMario (talk) 16:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * She's not notable and is only known for her EastEnders role (or was at the time her article was created) which is why it redirects. – Anemone Projectors – 16:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Afia Khan/Masood/Tamwar
Well, another marriage! One thing, should it be changed to Afia Tamwar or Afia Masood? I recall that we had this problem with Syed. What's the drill?  GSσяву  Chat with Me! 19:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave it as Khan until we have a source saying otherwise. With Amira, we had sources for both, and never actually said her name was either. Afia is still credited as Khan all week. Normally they change it upon marriage, or sometimes even before. I am sure they would credit her as "Afia Masood" when we all know it should be "Afia Tamwar", so I think it's best to say neither unless someone comments about the naming thing again. – Anemone Projectors – 19:44, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm so pleased they referenced it on screen! She went "modern" instead of "traditional". Yay! – Anemone Projectors – 18:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank god :L  GSσяву  Chat with Me! 18:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad it was referenced on screen as well, but AP you are incorrect in saying that Amira's surname wasn't referenced on screen, she had post with the name "Mrs A Masood" on it. 144.124.121.55 (talk) 19:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Also,[1 ]

--MayhemMario (talk) 17:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Bringing this up again, barely anyone calls her Khan any more. Google turns up 2,420,000 results for Masood and more than half of that for (1,130,000 results) for Khan. In my opinion, this should be changed. GSorby – Ping!   21:28, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't have much of an opinion either way, but if you limit that search by including EastEnders in the search string, Khan still pulls 21,300 hits to Masood's 9,850. Frickative  22:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Imam Ali own section?
Per decisions we made starting in 2009, Imam Ali should stay in the others list as he has no real-world information, just plot. Bleaney is arguing that "Mr Lister & Rev Stevens have no OOU info either, we need consistancy!" but that's not the point. If we were to have consistency in this way, we'd have no "others" section at all. Just because we have done something for some characters, doesn't mean we should do it for all of them. As Ali's section is 100% plot, he should stay back in "others". (Also, Bleaney implied that I should start this discussion, quoting "bold revert discuss", but he was bold, I reverted, so he should be the one starting the discussion.) – Anemone Projectors – 11:58, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Get over yourself AP, you pick and choose which Wiki policies to follow yourself, but remind us of them often enough! My point is this - The 'Others' section as I am to understand is for very minor characters - i.e. Characters who have literally had a couple of lines. Someone like Imam Ali has appeared in connection with various storylines and characters over a period of time, so although he's not a regular character, I wouldnt class him as minor. If we look at List of EastEnders characters (2012) the list is exceedingly short and mainly made up of others, which makes the list look imabalanced, and essentially a list of bit-parts. I think we need to have a wider discussion on what type of characters should have their own sections in this list, and who shouldn't. What makes me laugh is that people caampaign to have certain characters kept in the recurring section of List of EastEnders characters, yet are happy for their own entires to relegated to a 2-line mention! Bleaney (talk) 13:41, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry for the way I went about this discussion. I shouldn't allow external factors influence my contributions here. But I still think Imam Ali is a minor character with very little information. Also, I realised it was 2010 when we started this thing for separating others from non-others, but Ali had hardly appeared by then. The "others" list featured the dates of his episodes. I find it unfortunate that this information will be lost, so if we are to keep him separate (pending consensus?), can we put the actual dates in the text instead of just the months? – Anemone Projectors – 14:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Certainly, does anyone know the dates? Bleaney (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there no real world info that can be added? Rain  the 1  15:42, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The dates were in the "others" section, just have a look at the previous revisions. I don't think there's any real-world info, but it would be really good if we could find something. – Anemone Projectors – 13:10, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Imam Ali
Since its has been more than a year (6 November 2015) since Imam Ali (Emilio Doorgasingh) has appeared in EastEnders is it safe to assume he is a past character? I have put a hidden episode number and date on his last appearance. Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 21:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what the one-year rule is. He was already moved from the present to past list on 29 October 2016‎ by, when the cast lists up to 6 November 2016 were released, but this user didn't update the character's infobox. I have now done so. anemone  projectors  09:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, even if it hadn't been a year, he would been moved to past when Masood left. anemone  projectors  09:53, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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