Talk:List of Etruscan mythological figures

Crapsti
I removed Craptasti again only because the entry mentions that it was an Umbrian deity (different than the Etruscans, from what I remember, see umbria. I also haven't found it in any of my sources on Etruscan mythology, such as Jannot, de Grummond, Simon, etc.  We can easily add it in again if you can provide a source (and I'm always interested in learning about Etruscan deities/mythological figures I didn't know before!) --Etrlove (talk) 16:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I admit to knowing almost nothing about this, but with a quick search I did find plenty of reliable sources that "Crapsti" (not Craptasti) was an Etruscan divinity, possibly corresponding to Umbrian "Grabovius". Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 17:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry for my typo with Crapsti, thanks for pointing that out, lol. (fixed in title too) Also thanks for the link to the sources - I'll add Crapsti back into the article with one of those sources. --Etrlove (talk) 06:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Uthste = Odysseus
I wrote that from Reading The Past Etruscan (by Larissa Bonfante, 1990) p:36 / I didn't put that on References because there is another book of Bonfante on that list! Böri (talk) 10:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thevrumines = Minotaur
http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=TVAtdzbV-yIC&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=Thevrumines&source=bl&ots=yUy3S-GWJ7&sig=iUAO12SxsZ-Lieiun1lFqW6--Gc&hl=tr&ei=jqObS5uPNpaSjAeAxuyfDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Thevrumines&f=false

who deleted it? Böri (talk) 14:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

An instance of bad etruscology by an outstanding etruscologist
Maris: quote "...Pallottino refers to theformationof a god by "...fusing groups of beings...into one". Of Mars he says "...the protecting spirits of war, represented as armed heros, tend to coalesce into a single deity, the Etrusco-Roman Mars, on the model of the greek god Ares".

Is not this pure imagination? Roman Mars is the Oscan Mamurius and it is apparent that the Etruscans borrowded their Maris from other Italic people.Zanzan32 (talk) 04:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

You're confusing Mamurius, Numa's legendary craftsman, with Māmers (Māmertos), the actual Oscan forms. In any case, the borrowing could have gone the other way as some have claimed. Furthermore, L. Bonfante sees no connections between the two. Note that the -t- present at the end of the Italic root forms is absent in the Etruscan, and the -i- present at the end of the root of the Etruscan form is absent in the Italic forms. Not to mention that the /-w-/ seen in some Latin poetic forms (which are often highly conservative)--Māvors (Māvortis)-- is nowhere to be seen in the Etruscan. And really, it's not quite clear what a bunch of cute babies have to do with the god of war in particular? If anything, they would seem to have Apollonian connections, as Smintheus "mouser" is an epithet of Apollo (already in the first book of the Iliad), and note that meni-tla seems to have a root meni- cf meni-n the first word of the Iliad, referring to Achilles' wrath, but elsewhere only used of divine wrath. If anyone has leads on where a scholar has made these connections in print (I can't be the only one to have noticed them), please do share. Thanks.Johundhar (talk) 17:24, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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Link to page for Usil
Wikipedia has a page for Usil, but the entry for Usil in the chart doesn't link to the page 150.243.203.22 (talk) 21:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)