Talk:List of General Hospital cast members

Edit request on 19 September 2012
Great job on this page!! However, I was wondering why the "Duration" section for the actors is not correct for many actors who have left the show and returned. For example Genie Francis left in 1982 and made brief appearances in 1983 and 1984. Every time I try to correct it gets changed back. Maybe I am not linking properly to the source? Thanks

75.128.34.9 (talk) 18:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You would need to provide a reliable source to support the information. You can post that information here and change the "answered=yes" to "answered=no" above. -- The Red Pen of Doom  20:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

New doctor?
Hey all, I've looked a lot of places but have been unable to find any actress info on the new doctor who debuted today. There was Nurse Sabrina as played by Teresa Castillo and then there was this Dr. Britt. Any info on if this was a one-episode shot or if this is a recurring role? Inhan Lagur (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

i think she was just a one-off character.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As a note This page is for discussing how to improve the associated article and not for a gossip forum for chatting about cast changes. I will be closing this section, but feel free to reopen if you wish to specifically discuss how to source the information for the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom  20:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Why was that section closed?
It was a legitimate question asking whether or not there are any sources we can provided to add about a new character that has appeared. how is that "chatting about cast changes"??Caringtype1 (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree, closing of the section was unnecessary and the topic was regarding information to source and correctly place the cast member in the correct section of the article. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 01:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that I misinterpreted the comments. They appeard not to be a request for sources /for the article/ but merely a request attempting to verify gossip; and my closure was were noted as such " but feel free to reopen if you wish to specifically discuss how to source the information for the article". -- The Red Pen of Doom  18:29, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

New doctor
I'm starting the page again because I found some info on the actress, albeit from an unreliable site. Teresa Castillo (Sabrina) communicated on Twitter yesterday with an actress named Kelly Thiebaud regarding their joint first GH episodes yesterday. The picture of Thiebaud looks awfully like the doctor yesterday. I can find no other confirming sites to verify this, not even IMDB or via Google. Kinda strange when you think about it because she's tweeting about being back in the studio today, and they film several weeks ahead. Inhan Lagur (talk) 17:28, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The end credits of GH today (9-21) list Kelly Thiebaud as playing "Britt Westbourne." Patrick has called the doctor "Britt" on-air both on Thursday and Friday. I know those credits have been noted here as being unreliable as far as whether a person should be taken out of the contract or recurring sections (see: Nathin Butler), but can this be counted as a worthwhile source? Inhan Lagur (talk) 19:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Credits are generally a valid primary source that are suitable to verify the role played in a particular production. But since this article has multiple categories, a simple appearance in the credits does not identify that criteri;, and since the show is a running series, appearance in the credits in a particular episode does not validate that it is the first time the person has appeared. -- The Red Pen of Doom  21:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

My vote is to keep her off this list for right now, if her role turns into something long-term one of the magazines will mention her and we can add her then. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 22:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Comings and Goings
Ok I have a question, why is the Comings and Goings changed to Cast Changes, and why is it in 2 sections, and why is there a column which we don't need for refrences only, what happend to the way it had been, where there is only one section, that lists both comings and goings in one section, we don't need all these sections made, I mean to me I think you are wasting space here. Somebody explain why we need all these sections when we can just have the refrences in the date column, it all makes sense it's all in one whole section. Come on, this is just ridicoulous. P.J. (talk) 03:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The title of cast changes is a result of scrutiny and potential deletion proposal. The separate sections and fourth column are for clearer organization and consistency with other similar cast lists. I agree with the changes that everyone has made to this page. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 03:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Separating departures and arrivals is the really dumb and has absolutely no need!! We HAVE to go back to listed them together and briefly describe if they are leaving, returning, etc. It makes most sense. Also most of the time those sections will be empty, and the page will look dumb. Usually there aren't so many upcoming changes and when there are, there aren't hat many, so the sections look weird. They just do. Also "Cast Changes" means every change that the cast has underwent in its 50 years. Obviously that isn't what we mean, something needs to be added.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:11, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it should go back to Reported Cast Changes. Using Upcoming causes too many wp:crystal issues. A lot of other pages have two subsections here, I don't mind it. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 05:22, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Here are the links to the recent discussions on this section (regarding notability, not formatting): original discussion at wp:soaps; subsequent discussion at DRN; subsequent discussion at wp:not Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 05:48, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Here are links to similar pages who have adopted the formatting and/or received positive feedback on it: List_of_The_Young_and_the_Restless_cast_members; List_of_Days_of_our_Lives_cast_members; List_of_current_Home_and_Away_characters; List_of_Emmerdale_characters. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 05:48, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

A lot of those pages have a lot more cast changes than GH currently does, and where does it say that this page has to be exactly like all the other soap cast pages? (Does it say that somewhere? i really don't know)Caringtype1 (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it does or not. I wanted to give some examples of what other similar situations were doing. The amount of comings/goings will fluctuate. It's my opinion that it's better organized this way in the long run. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 13:28, 29 September

2012 (UTC)

I think it looks a lot cleaner the way we had it.Caringtype1 (talk) 14:05, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I like the newer way it separates who's coming to the show and who's lesving, plus everyone keeps complaining about no references, this new way we can show the references. And it looks like a more professional way in this new format. I think thw GH page should follow the example of the other pages. Jester66 (talk) 22:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I've never liked Comings and Goings, the article always seemed too much like a fansite; I actually think "Cast changes" is the more appropriate name for the section, it seems like it fits more this way; I've always thought we should separate those returning/debuting from those departing because those sections can often get kind of crowded, and very confusing to read for example, The Young and the Restless and Days of our Lives have both been dealing with a lot of departures and returns, and it was confusing to read; I thinking keeping them separate is the best thing to do and the references having their own column seems more appropriate.--Nk3play2 my buzz 03:59, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with caringtype, seperating the returning/debuting from the departing just looks dumb there is like 3 people on that list, it shouldn't be in two sections, it should be all together. P.J. (talk) 04:37, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The number of comings and goings will fluctuate over time, I don't think a decision should be made off the number there are today. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 16:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Seriously, this is not how the cast changes should go, all the cast changes should be in one section, not two, I think were wasting space with the 2 sections. Change it back to the old way, it looks cleaner that way P.J. (talk) 04:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree, we should definitely change it back.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The title definitely has to stay per the discussions I linked above. The organization is more opinion based, but it is my opinion, and seems to be that of Jester and Nk3play2, that this format is easier to navigate, more consistent with similar cast lists read by similar readers, and better able to organize fluctuating amounts of actors. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 01:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

First off, there was a specific order the way it was before this stupid format came about, there was returning, debuting and exiting, this however makes the article not clean, it's taking up more space, I think we need to change it back, who cares how the other soaps are doing there's why should we copy what other pages have it, put it back the old way, it would make alotta people happier, and how is it confusing, you look at the person, and it say if they are returning, debuting or exitng, there shouldn't have to be a seperate section for the exiting part, it should be all in one like it is before. P.J. (talk) 04:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but it's not confusing, it's the quite the opposite, it's very easy to understand. And it makes the page nicer and more professional looking. And plus only you and Caringtype seem to have a problem with this format. Jester66 (talk) 06:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Seriously, it makes the article look disgusting, why should we copy all the other soap operas? Why not have it the way it is, the original format had been around for years, this doesn't make it look like it's clean and nicer, it makes it look it's nasty. That's the truth, the other way was alot better than this way. P.J. (talk) 03:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * What's your definition of "nasty and disgusting"? I think the older way was WAY too cluttered. Jester66 (talk) 05:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The old way wasn't cluttered, it was clean and concise.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:02, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * How was it clean and concise??? Jester66 (talk) 21:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The new organization is easier to quickly navigate from the TOC links and has better longevity for when the number of cast changes fluctuates. I don't see any detriment to the aesthetics of the new version. While there may not be a specific rule on following the format of similar pages, it helps with consistency for similar readers. Also, it proves that this organization is the more popular choice since most other articles of this kind use it. "It's always been this way" is not a valid argument. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 00:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Diane Miller
Hi, I'm new around here, so I don't know everything. I heard Diane Miller is coming back, even though she is on recurring. I have sources: http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2012/09/19/carolyn-hennesy-returning-to-general-hospital

Should we put her in comings and goings? Some sites just her there, but also say she is a recurring level. For example: http://general-hospital.wikia.com/wiki/Template:News

Thanks!

NateG4 (talk) 20:38, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keeping her on the recurring list should suffice, she is still going to be on in a recurring status. Daytime Confidential is not reliable for cast lists nor are other wikis. Thanks! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 20:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

the source already there says she is coming back, that's good enough.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Daytime Confidential?
Hi- I've looked for the answer but can't find it so thought I'd ask - Is the Daytime Confidential website a reliable source for casting info? Because they're stating that Wally Kurth (Ned) and Robin Christopher (Skye) are returning for Edward's funeral this fall. Tvline.com is citing DC as a source, but DC doesn't list a source. Comments? Here's the link - http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2012/10/25/wally-kurth-and-robin-christopher-to-return-for-edwards-general-hospital-memorial Inhan Lagur (talk) 04:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, argh, read everywhere but the above Diane post. DC is not reliable, got it. Will keep my eyes open elsewhere. Inhan Lagur (talk) 04:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Excuse You??? Daytime Confidential is most *definitely* a reliable source! Moreso than MANY others. Yoryla (talk) 01:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Kelly Lee
Should we move Minae Noji to former? She hasn't been on in a while and they have been using a new OBGYN? Her website refers to her "four year run" with GH. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 02:55, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I've been wondering the same thing. They have used that other OBGYN lately, but it is possible she is currently working on other projects, and will return to the series. I'm not really sure how we should handle this.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think she's still with the series. She just isn't Lulu's OBGYN. I mean, hospitals don't just have one OBGYN for all of the women. That'd be insane.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 03:30, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Does anyone remember the last time she was on? Four year stint would be 2006 to 2010ish, but she was definitely on earlier this year when Sam was pregnant right? If so that would discount the bio on her site? Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 03:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Never credit an actor's main site. Those tend to be infrequently updated. Because Kelly Lee has appeared numerous times since 2010. Actors rarely update their main site, especially when not much goes on in their careers.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 03:41, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

She was on during Sams fantasy during the pathogen crisis. So she she should be kept on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.87.244.242 (talk) 19:26, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Sean Kanan
Do we really know that Sean is playing AJ? How do we know he's not playing Jason Morgan? Monica never said either way? Don't you think we should wait until Monday's episode to find out if it's AJ or Jason? I believe Sean Kanan is playing Jason cuz for one Jason fell off the pier and into the water, and his body is never found, plus he and Sam got back together? Of course Monica made that mysterious call a few days ago so it could be AJ, I really don't know for a fact. But Monica could have known that Jason was alive and called him. It's not revealed so why should it be listed as AJ, just wait until Monday's episode. P.J. (talk) 03:49, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * They showed photos of Steve Burton and Sean Kanan as Jason and A.J. all week. I think it's safe to assume he's playing A.J. until it's said otherwise. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 03:53, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

True, they never officially said it was AJ, or even Jason, or it could be someone completely new. He's mostly likely AJ, but we will have confirmation on Monday.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Just because they have been showing pics of both Sean and Steve together side by side that don't mean diddly squat, Sean can still be playing Jason, which I hope so. AJ is dead, so why would they bring him back when Jason was found missing? Don't make any sense. P.J. (talk) 20:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

TV Credits
Can someone link me to where there is a clear explanation of why TV credits can't be used here? I've done some searching and found various discussions raising various concerns, but nothing with a definitive answer that could be referenced, as this comes up every now and then. It seems the concerns are verifiability (soaps not being released to DVD, reruns, etc) and/or accuracy (different stations broadcasting different credits, or the show simply posting inaccurate credits). Thanks! Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 04:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Florencia Lozano
Why is she listed as 'returning"? She never left.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Take Montoya Out Of Recurring?
Should Rebeka Montoya (Delores) be taken out of Recurring and put into Former? The new Soap Opera Digest calls her "ex-Delores" (on the Style Squad page of the December 3, 2012 issue, page 21). Is that enough? (I haven't edited enough Wiki pages to edit it here, in any case.) Inhan Lagur (talk) 01:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sources that state recurring actors leaving are hard to come by - IMO that is a nice find and would suffice. Kelly Marie 0812 (talk) 03:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Tequan Richmond
Tequan Richmond should be added to contract cast members, he has been listed in the closing credits with the contract actors since November 26, 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.223.148 (talk) 02:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Credits are not a reliable source for that sort of thing. He can be moved if a reliable source states he is on contract with the series.Caringtype1 (talk) 04:53, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes he has been on contract since November. Can we use a screencap of the credits? His official Twitter also says "regular" on GH. I don't think we shouldn't list him appropriately just because SOD never caught wind of the change. --Alexisfan07 (talk) 21:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless you can find a source that says he was promoted, or that refers to him as a regular, he stays at recurring. Credits/Twitter just aren't enough.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well the article we used for Genie being on contract never said "contract" or "regular" either. The official show credits have been accurate since day one, anyone who disagrees with that is incorrect and that assumption has no basis in reality. If we can use that Fairman article for Genie being on contract (which the credits say she is, just to be clear), then we can use Tequan's official Twitter's "regular" remark for him. Does that make sense? --Alexisfan07 (talk) 21:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No where on the credits does it distinguish between contract and recurring. Assuming actors on contract appear before recurring actors is original research.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not original research, the credits have been like this since the show began in 1963. They used to even have a space between them in the old credits. They are listed in order of their tenure, their contracts, with the show. Tequan's name is also nestled in between other contract players. Besides, this is moot. His official Twitter says "regular." That should be the end of this discussion. SOD doesn't list every contract change, there are many that go unnoticed. They also misreport things, such as saying Jennifer Bassey was returning to AMC this go round. His official Facebook says the same thing. Would that be a better source? You are also ignoring my valid point of the Francis article not proving if she is on contract, even if she is. 'Hiring' someone could easily mean recurring as well, as they have hired Lynn Herring or Robin Mattson to be long-time recurring. 'Regular' is not a disputable term. --Alexisfan07 (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You're being abrasive, so clam down. The Francis article says "This is not a guest appearance", so there you go. The actor's twitter/facebook is a little subjective, and, at best, could be interpreted in serval ways. In the past, many promotions like this have been reported by sites, so why wouldn't they mention this one? If you want to see if another editor agrees with you, by all means, go ahead and get another opinion, because Im not changing my stance.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I asked Tequan on Twitter who confirmed he was contract go on his twitter and see it for your self — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.219.53 (talk) 23:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I Will continue to and I will encourage others to keep putting Tequan Richmond with the other contract actors until he stays there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.219.53 (talk) 23:21, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Stop moving Tequan Richmond around without citing sources for his status. If it keeps up, you'll be reported for edit warring. Natalie47 (talk) 21:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Check his twitter he confirmed on may 12th that he was contract with GH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.216.214 (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Anthony Geary
I know Luke Spencer returned in 1993 but shouldn't Tony be credited for his 1991 return as Bill? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.218.224 (talk) 17:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

He's listed under Former Cast Members because Bill's not on the show. Same as Ian Buchanan as Cesar Faison. Inhan Lagur (talk) 01:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think that is the way it should be. This is a list of cast members, not characters. He's a current cast member.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically you're right, but if you're going to do it, go all the way. Credit the other roles played by Kristen Alderson, Ian Buchanan, Tyler Christopher, Michael Easton, Roger Howarth, Jon Lindstrom, Kelly Monaco, and John J. York up there, as well. I just don't like it because it clutters the top of the page with old roles that won't be played again. (Witness the Days of Our Lives page and what Eileen Davidson does to it.) Technically you're right, though. Inhan Lagur (talk) 01:25, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I see where that can be confusing and sometimes get messy, but I really do think that is the best way to Hanse it, since we can't include current cast members in the former section, and we shouldn't just leave put roles altogether. I think there should be only about 7 current cast members, not including but pets and cameos. Caringtype1 (talk) 16:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Character Changes
Shouldn't Maksim Chmerkovskiy, Richard Simmons and Nathan Parsons be added to the recurring list? Also, shouldn't Chrissie Fit be taken off the recurring list because she hasn't been on for over a year?

GHfan22 (talk) 21:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree on Chmerkovisky, but Simmons is already listed under Guest Appearances.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Not done for now: I see no problem with this, but can you provide the characters that they play please? Mdann52 (talk) 13:34, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 April 2013
Just to let u know that Emme Rylan has confirmed her first airdate as Lulu Spencer-Falconeri will be on April 11th.

173.176.61.35 (talk) 23:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  07:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Why isn't this...
page semi-protected anymore? The amount of vandalism on this page since the the protection tag was removed has been out of control.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You can request it at Requests for page protection. Natalie47 (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Kristen Alderson, Michael Easton characters.
Is Kristen playing Katherine Jerome or Lauren Jerome cuz I'm confused on this one, on the Kristen Alderson article it says she's playing Lauren, but on the cast members it's Katherine. Was it officially mentioned on today's show that she's playing either one? Also was Michael Easton's character's named mentioned, we all know he's Stephen's brother. P.J. (talk) 19:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You can't go by other Wikipedia articles if they don't cite official sources. Whoever put Lauren in Alderson's article didn't confirm it. Today's episode confirmed that Alderson is Katherine and Easton is Silas. Natalie47 (talk) 23:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The character's full name is Lauren Katherine Jerome. She goes by "Kiki", which is derived from Katherine. Her mother started to use it when she was a small child, and it sticked. Yoryla (talk) 14:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Past Characters in the current cast section
Ok first off, KA, RH, and ME are not playing their One Life to Live characters on GH anymore. Those characters should be in the former cast section, there is no reason to have those people in the current cast section with those characters unless they were playing both parts. But they're not, they are playing Kiki, Franco and Silas. It will be confusing to others like it was me when I first saw it like this. This is the current cast section, not the current cast/past character section. The current cast means current actor and current character, I don't care if the actor is on playing a different character, the former character should be on on the former cast list. Simple as that, this is just so doggone confusing, in fact Caringtype did not discuss it with us first, they just put it on there, It is confusing, the characters of Starr, John and Todd should not be part of the current cast but part of the former cast list. P.J. (talk) 01:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

They are current cast regardless of what character they are playing. And it is incorrect to have current cast members listed in the former cast section. So either we leave the past characters off altogether, or we add them under the current characters. That makes the most sense. And why would you start a new section, when this issue was already being discussed above?Caringtype1 (talk) 04:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

They are current cast but they aren't playing the same character. Having both characters there is confusing unless they are playing both characters at the same time, you can't just put every character on the current cast section it's too confusing, that's why they are a list of characters page. KA, ME, and RH might have played Starr, John and Todd, but they aren't anymore, so the actors should not be listed in with the current and cast characters, that's why there is a list of characters page. Is this too confusing or are you getting a clue now? P.J. (talk) 19:54, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Whatever you guys decide, please stop edit warring. Natalie47 (talk) 21:57, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

PJ, it isn't that confusing. This is a list of cast members, characters don't matter. That's all.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Is Starr Manning, Todd Manning, John McBain, still on the show? No! So why are they listed in the current cast section along with the current characters? That not how this page is suppsed to work, current cast, means current characters, not from the past. So, what we need to do is remove those characters from the current cast page, there is a List of General Hospital characters page that were on the show, if people wanna know if other actors portrayed different characters, than they would go on the list of characters page and see it, it should not be part of the current cast section, I don't know why you put it up there, that's just causes confusion for people. Now if Kristen Alderson, Michael Easton, and Roger Howarth were both playing their current characters along with their past characters than that would be acceptable, however this is not acceptable and won't be acceptable on this page. I have spoken. P.J. (talk) 23:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

So you're saying we just not include the former characters of current actors? I'm okay with that, even though that would make the page incomplete. But all have to be removed, not just those three you seem to be singling out for some reason.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:25, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

It would make the page more sense, this is the page of the current cast with the current characters, but why have it on this page when it's already on the character page? Doesn't make any sense. Plus this way is too confusing, when I saw it the first time I thought KA was playing Starr Manning again on GH. You can't do that, and I saw that you had no discussion started on this page, you just went ahead and did it. Not cool, next time start a section so people can talk about it before you do anything like this. I would have to agree that having Kristen Alderson, Michael Easton, Roger Howarth and all the others in the former cast section was a bit too wild and they shouldn't have been. But adding the previous character to the slot on the current cast list, that's just messed up. If you didn't like it just removed the former cast members, they are already on the character page. P.J. (talk) 03:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay then I guess that is what we'll do, but you don't seem to understand that the current cast section, is not also a current character section. Just cast. And it was being discussed above, or have you not seen that section? Also I'm pretty it wouldn't be confusing to readers, just because you got confused doesn't mean every reader would. Caringtype1 (talk) 03:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

There is no section above with this topic, I just checked, why would you list all the characters that the current actors have portrayed past characters or not on the show on the cast section? It just takes up alot more space that it doesn't need, have the current actors, with the current characters, notice in the character section it says Character not Characters. P.J. (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

There is a section. It's number 14. It's titled "Anthony Geary". We list the current cast in the Current Cast section. What/how many characters they play does not matter whatsoever. It doesn't take up a lot of room, it's not too confusing. But we can remove the characters altogether just for sake of ending this pointless discussion.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:37, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm kind of scared to get into the middle of this, but why not have another section down by Notable Guest Appearances called Actors Who Played Multiple Roles or something? That way we can add Sarah Brown, Ted King, Rick Springfield, and people into it. Keep current characters in the present and past characters in the past, but have the separate section for those who might be interested in those who played both. Inhan Lagur (talk) 03:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Caringtype I didn't see it there, I'm sorry, but Inhan has a good idea, but if you wanna keep it like this, than you forgot that Michael Easton played 3 roles on GH. John McBain, Stephen Clay and Silas Clay. But I think Inhan has a good idea and maybe we should do that instead of deleting off of the cast page, have a seperate section just for the actors that played multiple roles on the show. P.J. (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Why this is being debated is beyond belief. Days of our Lives' cast list does the same this, listing all the characters an actor and/or actress have portrayed. It's a cast list, not a character list. Listing the One Life to Live characters with their time within the series is perfectly okay. Their current portrayal is listed first, then their subsequent portrayals secondly. It's not going to disrupt the list. And it's not as if Alderson/Easton/Howarth are previous cast members, they're current, their roles have simply changed. 71.233.227.127 (talk) 17:38, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

This isn't DOOL, this is GH, yes it's a cast list, but OLTL and AMC don't have it, Y&R and B&B don't have it, why does DOOL have it, there is no reason for DOOL to have it, DOOL has cast members that are no longer on the frickin show still on that cast list, there's a page called the list of characters, shows all the actors and characters. Inhan had a good idea, you down Caringtype for Inhan's idea? P.J. (talk) 05:04, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * As a contribution to this discussion, I find Inhan's idea good. There is no need for past characters to appear on this list where they are now. It is confusing, not because people wouldn't understand how to read the list, but because the outlook of the list looks unnecessarily confusing. In other words, I agree with Soapfan2013. Yoryla (talk) 14:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm fine with Inhan's idea.Caringtype1 (talk) 14:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Does anybody want me to do it or is somebody going to do it? I'm going to be gone until Sunday folks so I'm leaving tomorrow morning, so if yall are down with the idea, than lets do it and Git-R-Done. P.J. (talk) 03:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think Inhan's idea would not work since it goes against how other soap pages have handled multiple roles by one specific actor/actress. 71.233.227.127 (talk) 16:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

What other pages do doesn't not matter here.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

The page is a cast member listing, not characters. Why have an entry in two places? It would be incorrect to list current actors under former cast. If actors played multiple roles, those roles should be listed. The dates will tell the reader that it is not current. Rm994 (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Were not talkin about putting them in the former cast section, were talking about making a section for the actors who played multiple roles in the series, pay attention. The way that it is now this is just too confusing. P.J. (talk) 04:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Ian Buchanan needs to be added to the new section for playing Duke and Faison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.210.43 (talk) 01:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Are we limiting it to current cast members? Because there are about a dozen more we could add, all already listed under Former. I could go either way, but if we're gonna get that bulky, maybe we should put it after Former? It's a sub-category like Notable is. (Personally I think everyone who has played multiple roles should be there, but let's please not take the former people such as Sarah Brown and Ted King out of Former while we're doing it.) Inhan Lagur (talk) 01:41, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but having two sections for those who had dual roles is quite worthless. It's creating more clutter and confusion than it's meant to be. I don't see what's wrong with listed the dual role in the "current cast" section. The years depicting what character(s) they played during what year(s) is more than enough to understand and anyone confused by that shouldn't be the ones editing the list.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 05:53, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Peyton McCormick
She debuted on July 19th's episode, she appeard at the very end of the episode as one of the two girls Felix introduced to Michael, she is playing Sean and Tiffany's daughter Anna Donely, she is supposed to be on contract, can she be added to the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.33.181 (talk) 01:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Genie Francis
Genie has been listed in the credits and on this site with contract cast members since first coming back. Why is he being moved to recurring now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.222.158 (talk) 14:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

The only source that indicates she may be on contract in the one currently used, which is questionable at best. "Not a guest appearance" no ways implies she's on contract. I'd like further confirmation that she has a contract, or she should probably be moved back to recurring.Caringtype1 (talk) 21:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Genie has been listed with the contract cast members in the credits. I know it may be your opinion that that thats not credible, but it so happens that with EVERY new contract cast member they put after the newest contract cast member in the credits. Genie has has several new contract cast members after her in the credits. And every week she is listed in the credits even when shes not on which on as all contract members are always credited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.222.158 (talk) 15:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

TV credits are not a reliable source. Never were, never will be.Caringtype1 (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Doesn't matter, really. As long as the show credits heer as a contract member, she is one. Yoryla (talk) 08:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Although I agree Genie is no longer on contract, she should be moved to recurring instead of former. There are no reports or word from the show or Francis that she is gone permanently from the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.216.132 (talk) 16:51, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Tags
This is in response to the tags recently placed on the article.The lead is fine, it adequately describes the article. I don't understand how the article is from a fan's view, so hopefully the placer will elaborate. The additional refs one is valid, I'm shocked at how poorly sourced this article is.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) See WP:LEAD, it makes no mention at all of any of the cast members of the show. 2) See WP:FANCRUFT; nobody but fans care about "Cast changes". This isn't a damn fansite, it's an encyclopedia. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 05:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree.I was actually gonna work a little on this article so that It becomes more like this, which seems more neater and presentable (and mentions cast members in the lead), but I was reverted when only trying to neaten up a table because, apparently, it makes things harder to read... Ar  re  05:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The lead is fine. We don't have to mention specific cast members, that is what the article is for. Any mentioning some, would only lead to constant edits trying to add more and more. It is much easier leaving it the way it is. The have been countless discussions about the Cast Changes section (some of which are in/linked in this article), and it was ultimately decided the information is fine to include, but has to be heavily monitored. And Arre 9, no offense, but I don't see how that article is any better than this one. It only has five refs.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you understand the concept of what a lead is supposed to look like? Please review the link above. The lead MUST summarize the content in the article. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 05:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * And it does. The lead says what the article is about, that's is what a lead is supposed to do.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it does not. It doesn't tell us who the cast members are. The lead is supposed to do that. Obviously not every single one, but for example, ones who had a long stint. For example, note who has been on the show the longest, etc. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 05:45, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

See List of Billboard Social 50 number-one artists for an example. The body of the article lists artists who reached number one, while the lead denotes what the chart is and the most successful acts on the chart. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 05:47, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Y&R cast members list is much better. This one is messy and long, with basically no lead. You are once again semi-contradicting yourself by saying the cast changes section should be heavily monitored but we should avoid expanding this lead to avoid constant edits (edit wars), etc. Ar  re  05:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree about that other page. The lead and Cast Changes section are two completely different things. The lead isn't nearly as controversial as the Cast Changes section.Caringtype1 (talk) 05:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "It only has five refs" seriously ? have u seen the length of that list compared to this one? Lol. I wasn't comparing those sections I was stating that you were contradicting yourself once again... let me say it again: You say that a "Cast changes" section is good if it is heavily monitored, to avoid edit warring I assume. Yet, you state that a lead with additional information shouldn't be present because people will attempt to add "more and more", which you imply should be reverted, so you are implying edit warring. :S Ar  re  06:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Derek Wells VS Julian Jerome
Since Julian is the real name of the character William deVry is playing shouldn't it be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.222.175 (talk) 02:26, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Finola Hughes
Hughes is currently playing Obrecht as well as Anna and should be credited as such — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.216.132 (talk) 19:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Her portrayal was merely temporary. It's nothing too major that requires to be noted. It's not as if she portrayed her for a long-term time. It was for a select number of episodes.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 04:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Constance Towers
Okay we all know the character of Helena Cassadine was killed off by Luke Spencer, we all know that she appeared every year since 2009, we all know she last appeared on September 27th episode of General Hospital. Just becuz she appeared in one episode a month ago that does not mean she should be on the cast list. She probably appeared as a ghost or sumthin. Which means is a one time thing. Somebody explain to me why keep adding a cast member to a recurring capacity if she only appeared once in the past 7 months? The thing I don't get is, she's no longer part of the show, there was no news thing saying she's back permanetly. She may make a guest appearance now and than but the character is dead. "oh characters never die" I guess Asa Buchanan is still alive huh? I don't buy the characters never die excuse, come up with something better people. P.J. (talk) 03:31, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Fictional characters do not die, especially in soaps. There are other soap characters who've died for several years and decades, only to come back to "life". It's fiction. And Duke Lavery died not once, but TWICE. It is you who is the one who needs to come up with something more than a "final" airdate. Nothing proves that she has departing from recurring status on the cast. General Hospital is not as easily sourced these days, due to Frank's abilities to keep his castings a private matter from the public.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 15:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "Recurring" doesn't mean "back permanently." It can mean that a character makes occasional appearances. Unless there's confirmation somewhere that Constance Towers is never coming back, I think she should stay in recurring. Natalie47 (talk) 16:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Towers should remain in the recurring section for now, she can still appear at any time, and there is no reason to think that she won't. If a notable length of time passes and there is no indication she is set to make future appearances, then she can be moved, but a month without an appearance is nowhere near long enough.Caringtype1 (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree with above users. Towers should remain in the recurring section for now. — SoapFan12 (talk,   contribs ) 18:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Past Characters
Two things that have caught my eye in this section is the fact that Jason Connery/Sebastian Leeds never appeared on GH yet he is listed as a past cast member. I also noticed that Ben Hogestyn, Lucas Jones' second adult portrayer is not listed. I think he should be and it is important since he was in the role when Lucas came out as gay. I may be wrong about the first one and if I am can someone please clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.25.146 (talk) 03:36, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You are incorrect, Jason Connery (Sean's son) appeared as Franco's art dealer friend in two or three episodes, once a couple months ago when he was starting to paint again and again a time or two at the art gallery opening last month. Inhan Lagur (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Character Pages
Since Ava Jerome and Britt Westbourne, fairly new characters, have their own pages, shouldn't other characters like Kiki Jerome, Silas Clay and Sabrina Santiago have their own? They have been on a lot and their is plenty that could fill up their pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GHfan22 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Character Pages
Thank you to whoever created pages for Sabrina and Kiki! If I were skilled in creating more for other characters, I would. Is there anyway someone could create more for other characters. I am surprised that vets like Felicia and Kevin do not have their own pages. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GHfan22 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Jimmy Deshler
Deshler is no longer on contract with the show and should be changed to recurring — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.221.67 (talk) 05:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Michelle Stafford as Nina Clay
Is Michelle Stafford on contract or recurring? Nina Clay

Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

At this point, we don't have enough information. I cannot find a source that gives a definitive answer, so for now, let's say recurring. If a reliable source confirms the actress is indeed on contract, then it can be switched.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't want to put her in the main cast and be wrong.

Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 01:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Calvin Klien
I have noticed a new original cast member on the main page. I cannot locate this cast member on List of General Hospital Characters as it directs there and is not in the former cast members section here. Can someone please tell me who this character and actor is? Thank-you!

Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Blackie Parrish
Do you think Blakie will be portrayed by John Stamos or Ron Moss?

Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 19:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Thaao Penghlis as Victor Cassidine
I have noticed that Thaao Penghlis as Victor Cassidine is listed as recurring and former. He should ether be in one or the other, not both. I can correct which ever one h should be in. Thank you. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 03:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Anthony Geary
Anthony Geary should now be credited as playing both Luke and "unknown".

Recurring Characters
I think these people should be taken out of recurring

Mayor Janice Lomax: Saidah Arrika Ekulona

Coleman Ratcliffe: Blake Gibbons

Aiden Spencer: Jason David

Taylor DuBois: Pepi Sonuga

Helena Cassadine: Constance Towers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.210.2 (talk) 20:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Aiden Spencer is still alive and recurring. He is the son of Elizabeth Webber & Lucky Spencer. I don't think he should be taken out. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 22:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

He is alive and mentioned but he has not been on air in a very long time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.122.176.168 (talk) 01:39, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2014
Stacy Bladwin...I couldn't find her on any list....She played Laura before Genie Francis

72.92.107.247 (talk) 03:01, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll do a little research on that tomorrow. If she was Laura, she can be added to the former cast members section. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 03:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2014
Stacy Baldwin(correct spelling of last name)...I couldn't find her on any list....She played Laura before Genie Francis

72.92.107.247 (talk) 03:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Arfæst Ealdwrítere   (talk)  11:48, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Added Stacy Baldwin to former cast members. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

T. J. Ashford Page
T. J. Ashford page was recently deleted. It was classified as a start page. Is there a way to get the page back? Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 04:22, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2014
Kimberly McCullough will be returning to General Hospital this summer. Please add her to cast changes. Thank you!

- Emiecraigo (talk) 02:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Emiecraigo (talk) 02:46, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I have added her to the returning list with a reference. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 03:48, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2014
In the introductory paragraph, Zeman and Geary are described as the second and third longest running actors "retrospectively." I think the more appropriate word would be "respectively."

UoGjnussbau (talk) 19:20, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 00:17, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Sloane or Sloan?
Does anyone know if the character's name is Kyle Sloan or Kyle Sloane? I can't find consistent spelling anywhere, or spelling from a definitive source. Natalie47 (talk) 22:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think I may have a source for it as Sloane from ABC.go.com so I'll change it to Sloane. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 03:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Discrepancy between actors and portrayals
The article currently lists what unfolded as this:

Tony Geary Luke Spencer (1978-84, 1993-) Bill Eckert (1991-93) Cesar Faison (2014) Fluke (2014-)

Ian Buchanan Duke Lavery (1986-89, 2012-) Cesar Faison (2012)

Anders Hove Cesar Faison (1990-92, 1999-2000, 2012-13, 2014)

What was actually shown on screen was this:

Tony Geary Luke Spencer (1978-84, 1993-) Bill Eckert (1991-93, claimed 2014-) Cesar Faison (2014) "Fluke/Luke" (2014-) Larry Ashton (claimed 2014)

Ian Buchanan Duke Lavery (1986-89, 2012-)

Anders Hove Cesar Faison (1990-92, 1999-2000, 2012-13, 2014) Duke Lavery (2012) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigpoliticsfan (talk • contribs) 09:39, February 8, 2015


 * We don't do "claimed" portrayals; we only do confirmed portrayals. How they are currently listed is how they should appropriately be.  As such, the way you're listing things here is quite confusing, and not quite sure you're asking. Anders Hove never portrayed Duke; it was Buchanan who portrayed Faison posing as Duke.  Also, please make sure you sign your posts whenever you edit on a talk page.  Thanks. livelikemusic  my talk page! 14:47, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea, that's hard to understand. Plus, there was no real 'Duke mask' that was used. Hove wasn't really wearing a mask pretending to be Duke, it was Ian pretending to be Faison masquerading as Duke. And if that isn't confusing enough, the storyline is going to be Tony Geary playing his transgendered sister Patricia, masquerading as Luke. Dave Dial (talk) 14:54, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you watch Friday's episode Dave Dial, they revealed who "Fluke" honestly was.. and as was this storyline, it was a disappointing and predictable reveal.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 14:56, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea, I watched it. But it was a bit confusing. The fingerprints confirmed they were Luke's, but the DNA of the body said that it was also Luke Spencer's. So I'm not completely sure where they are going with that. Luke was replaced 20+ years ago and has been fooling everyone since? I'm going to go read some spoilers to see what the what. heh Dave Dial (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I have a feeling it's Ron rectonning Bill's biology, in that instead of being a cousin, he's a long-lost twin brother. Either way, I'm not impressed by the story. Supposedly, we find out this week what's going down.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 15:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Ron and the writers are making a mistake if they are going tell fans that Luke is Luke and has just revealed his true motives and that he's a sociopath. GH fans are not going to like that at all. I like that they gave Geary an interesting storyline so he would stay on GH, but there is no way fans are going to accept that Luke is just a sociopath. There is just too much history the past 35+ years. I think they could accept that he's a long lost twin brother, but the remains that are over 20 years old would make that the real Luke? Too jumbled. Dave Dial (talk) 15:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Given Ron's history with his attempt at "writing" a riveting story, it's looking that way.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 15:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Cast Changes
I think it's safe to remove Heavy - Crispin Alapag. He was only in a couple episodes and hasn't been seen in over a month.

Also Bradford Anderson returned as Spinelli and Harper Rose debuted February 13th 2015 as Georgie (Maxie Jones' daughter). I'd add both to recurring cast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.5.84 (talk) 23:17, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

IVY?
Why is ivy taken out the recurring cast? and why isent there pages made for Kyle Solone And Rosealie Martenez ?

Jonnyxo 12 (talk) 21:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  01:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Rebecca Budig's status, along with Ivy Gatlin, Larry Ashton and Jerry Jacks?
I am under the impression that Rebecca Budig's character Hayden Barns is currently a recurring cast member. In the credits for Friday, March 27, 2015, Budig was listed AFTER Brtyni Sarpey who played Valerie Spencer and I know from one of the magazine articles is recurring, but might become contract. Right after Budig was Bradford Anderson, and Ian Buchanan who are both recurring. Kelly Frye's brief appearance as Ivy appears to be over; she hasn't been listed in the credits in weeks nor has she made anymore appearances. While I am not sure about Sebastian Roche, I do know from an interview with Frank or Ron that Hugo Napier's return as Larry Ashton was short term and he is gone now.--Nk3play2 my buzz 20:32, 2 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The show's end credits are not as reliable as CBS or NBC, as they aren't listed in contract then recurring; they are listed in a different order. The issue with the series' is that they introduce actors on a surprise basis, and especially with recurring actors, they're used when they're needed. Budig's status with the series is contract, not recurring.  With the secrecy of the show, debating who is currently enlisted and who isn't is difficult.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 01:12, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

52 anniversary cast apperances
I really don't think Tony, Laura, Becky and Jason should be credited for a one episode role on a permanent cast list. Besides Kristen Storms played BJ in an episode years back and there is no mention of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.214.205 (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Actor leaving and other tidbits
According to a Periscope video that was posted either late Friday evening or over the weekend, Sean Blakemore is reportedly leaving GH. Also, it appears they have found twins to play Olivia and Julian's baby since in the previews for tomorrow Julian asks Olivia and Ned where is my son (and he's obviously NOT referring to Lucas), although the baby doesn't have a name yet. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Remove Ivy
I think it's time to remove Ivy Gatling (Kelly Frye) from the recurring section. She hasn't appeared in a very long time and it seems pretty clear that she was only brought on to get Sonny pardoned and has now played her part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.2.157 (talk) 23:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Wally Kurth gone
Wally Kurth had announced on twitter on 5/12 that the 19th of May would be his last airdate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.182.209.113 (talk) 16:51, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Actor debut
Robert Palmer Watkins appeared at the end of today's episode. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 23:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Recurring cast slightly out of date
The twins listed as playing Danny have been replaced by a new and (I assume) somewhat older set of twins. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 19:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2015
Richard Burgi as Paul Hornsby and Genie Francis as Laura Spencer should now be listed under Contract Cast Members, not recurring as they are listed among Contract Cast in the End credits during broadcasts.

Also the opening paragraphs still lists that Anthony Geary IS the 4th longest running cast member as though he's still a part of the cast. He left the show in July 2015.

108.53.220.232 (talk) 16:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mdann52 (talk) 13:12, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Did you not read what the previous person wrote? They said the source was the show's credits. You can't get more reliable than that. They are correct, both Richard Burgi and Genie Francis are currently on contract. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.211.233 (talk) 19:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Episode credits are not considered reliable. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 19:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Kiraroshi1976: Episode credits ARE considered reliable: specifically the ending credits. This talk has been had so many times now, I can't believe people still don't know. Cebr1979 (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JustBerry (talk) 00:03, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Again, Richard Burgi and Genie Francis are both currently on contract. The end credits of the show is only reliable source of this information as it comes directly from the show. At any rate, here is another source which lists the current contract cast. http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003558794/ It clearly illustrates that the Wikipedia article is incorrect. I would love the know the source that this article is currently using for this list by the way. Shouldn't that be included in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.31.142.13 (talk • contribs)
 * undefined Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 06:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Episode credits are not considered reliable, as per WP:UGC and WP:WPNOTRS. Unless you know of policy stating otherwise, your previous comment is invalid. &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 06:20, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing you pointed to says show credits can't be used. It says self-published should be avoided because anyone can claim to be an expert in their field. Stating who is contract and who is not on their show is hardly one person claiming to be an expert in their field. However, yes: this did go all the way to ANI and I'll find it for you later today.Cebr1979 (talk) 15:03, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Either way, Disney-ABC Television Group does not order their end credits the same as CBS does with The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, they order them in which time the cast member joined the cast, therefore they cannot be used to determine who is a main [regular] character and who is recurring. Oh, and IMDb is also not a reliable source for that kind of information, per television standards.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 17:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Sources for Main Cast and Recurring Cast list
This article does not cite sources for the cast lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WHYCITE Can we add a "Ref" column to the tables and sources indicating where the information about their "Main Cast" or "Recurring Cast" status comes from? I think this is necessary considering recent discussion about reliable sources for new additions. If this cannot be done I propose that that these lists be merged into one cast list and be based on the show's end credits, which apparently does not distinguish between Main Cast and Recurring Cast. 74.65.211.233 (talk) 23:08, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

The Cast is distinguished by Main Cast and Recurring Cast. The Main Cast is listed in order of longevity with the show. Then after the Recurring cast is listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.53.220.232 (talk) 01:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2015
Richard Burgi and Genie Francis should be listed with the Contract Cast. They are both on Contract. NOT Recurring. In the end credits, they are listed amongst the Contract cast members.

108.53.220.232 (talk) 01:21, 2 October 2015 (UTC) The website you referenced has not been edited. There are a number of characters there that have been gone from the show for months. However, I screenshot the end credits from the 10/2/15 episode in which Burgi and Francis are listed before Budig. The main cast is listed in chronological order followed by the recurring cast. Burgi and Francis are listed prior to Budig because they signed on with the show before her. In fact, Richard Burgi is shown in the opening credits and only main cast are shown in the opening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.53.220.232 (talk) 14:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Those individuals are not listed on http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/cast --Stabila711 (talk) 04:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


 * As previously explained, Disney-ABC Television Group does not categorize their end credits in terms of regular vs. recurring status (contract is not confirmed via-network, EVER). Both Burgi and Francis are only confirmed to be recurring with General Hospital.   And it is not stated-fact that the characters in the opening credits for this soap, or any soap opera, are regular cast members only.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 23:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

How is contract not confirm by the network EVER? Frank just confirmed Finola and Genie signed multi year contracts? The fact that Richard Burgi isnt listed with the contract cast is ridiculous. It makes this page look outdated and irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.48.168.207 (talk) 01:46, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Change to article format; article out of date
The article should list all cast members together sorted by the year that they first joined and then have the comings and goings after. Also the article still lists Robb Derringer as a current cast member when he exited weeks ago. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 13:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Since no one else showed any interest in editing the article to look this way, I went ahead and made the change myself. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 18:26, 14 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The article was never out of date. The article shows Main and recurring the former way. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 18:39, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Genie Francis and Kin Shriner
I noticed in the heading (the first paragraph) it states who the longest running actors are. I wonder if we should include Kin Shriner and Genie Francis, since they both first appeared on the soap in 1977, her in February and him in August, respectfully. Jester66 (talk) 23:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Francis started in 1976 and Shriner in 1977, however, their roles were not continuous. They left and came back several times. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Then what about Jane Elliot? She left and came back several times as well. Jester66 (talk) 07:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have an amount of time they were there with a ref? If so, then I don't see why not. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I have these refs here: these are for Kin Shriner, and these for Genie Francis. Jester66 (talk) 00:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and put them on the page. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 05:31, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Drew Cheetwood
Cheetwood is known mostly for his General Hospital role. Skr15081997 (talk) 11:45, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think both Drew AND Derk Cheetwood should be included. Milo and Max Giambetti, respectively.  Both have had been involved with stories outside of the Sonny bodyguard business.  Max and Diane - not front burner but a much enjoyed SL by fans.  Max was ubiquitous for several stretches of Sonny SL's over the years.  Milo in the 3-suitors for Lulu stuff, later Lulu hiding out at his place after the Cassadine Island debacle, almost getting into the Spa stuff with Lucy and Laura SL that was summarily dropped.  Recent relationship with Epiphany - that unfortunately is now rarely seen.
 * Oppose - This is a list section, not an article. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:24, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016
Richard Burgi as Paul Hornsby is a Contract cast member. He should be included with the Main Cast instead of the Recurring Cast.

MrVanGriffin (talk) 00:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Request denied. Research does not show that he has a contract. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --allthefoxes (Talk) 02:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

James Nigbor as Jake Spencer / Donna Mills' exit
Per Soap Opera Digest, Soaps In Depth and On-Air On-Soaps have all confirmed that February 29, 2016, was James Nigbor's final appearance in the role of Jake Spencer, and that a recast has happened.

And in an issue of Soap Opera Digest, Donna Mills mentioned she had not been contacted by the soap since Ron's exit, and that the current writing regime have not come up with any kind of definitive storyline for her.  livelikemusic   talk!  02:48, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Richard Burgi
Richard Burgi as Paul Hornsby is a Contract cast member. He should be included with the Main Cast instead of the Recurring Cast. He's listed amongst the Contract cast during the closing credits. In addition, he's featured in the opening title sequence. A distinction only signified by Contract status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrVanGriffin (talk • contribs) 15:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As stated multiple times before (specifically to your last edit-request on this page back in January), unless a reliable source can verify that he has become a series regular, he shall remain in the recurring cast section. The end credits for General Hospital, as previously mentioned, are not ordered in main-to-recurring status; they are listed in which cast member most recently joined the series cast.  There is no definitive source that can confirm what you are requesting.  livelikemusic    talk!  15:49, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I will try to get a screen shot of the opening sequence as well as the closing credits. While the cast is listed in chronological order, The Contract cast is listed BEFORE the recurring cast (from longest tenured to newest), as seen in the credits, Mr. Burgi is listed before other Contract cast and then the Recurring cast is listed. His photo is not listed on the ABC website with Cast, however, this is no acknowledgment of any kind as there are a number of Cast members that aren't listed (Essentially, the website is in need of an update.) I will procure a reliable source for Mr. Burgi's status as I'm just interested in seeing him get his proper acknowledgment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrVanGriffin (talk • contribs) 17:49, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * As stated above, that the title sequence would not be enough. Unless a reliable source can be found, which I cannot find, he shall remain recurring. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * How do I attach a photo of the closing credits for verifiable proof? Other than appearing in the opening credits, Mr. Burgi has been credited with the contract cast for well over a year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrVanGriffin (talk • contribs) 17:33, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You don't use YouTube. You need a reliable source and TV is not reliable as General Hospital does not list their actors in order. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 18:07, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly; you've been told multiple times before this change cannot be made, and that once again, do not refer to series regulars as "contract cast".  livelikemusic    talk!  15:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Recurring Cast
Georgie Spinelli, And Ellie Trout should be removed from recurring because when Damien Spinelli returned he said there both in Portland. Also Duke Lavery said his last goodbye to Anna a few weeks ago so he should be removed as well. Milo Giambetti and Lucy Coe only returned for the nurses ball so they need to be removed. Raj and Landon Dixons Story has been done ages ago so they need to be removed. Delia Ryan hasn't been scene in months and Emma Drake and Robin Scorpio are gone back to Cali so they need to be removed. Carlos Rivera was killed off so he need to be removed. Baxter Corbin needs to be removed as his sint was only a few shows. Robert Scorpio is Done, As well as David Walters and Rosalie Martinez so they need to be removed. And Lastly, Profiles need to be made for Amy Driscoll, Aaron Roland, Huxley Lynch, Naomi Dreyfus And Claudette Beaulieu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.204.55 (talk) 23:20, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * They may be in Portland. Without a reliable source, they can not be removed. Claudette has not premiered yet. As far as Naomi, she is on the characters page of 2016. As soon as we know more information on Amy, Aaron and Huxley, they too, will be in the 2016 characters list. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 03:38, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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Recurring cast on General Hospital
How often is the list of contract & recurring cast members updated on Wikipedia.org? MaryM1952 (talk) 10:19, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As long as there is not a citation that they have left the show, we keep them until there is a citation that they left. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 04:51, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Steve Burton return in-question (2017)
Daytime Confidential is merely speculating on Burton's return, based on Twitter and Michael Logan's tweet — the latter of which did not confirm which soap he would be returning to. TVLine cites DC's article. He very well could be returning to General Hospital as Jason Morgan, but Wikipedia does not speculate. We should be waiting for more concrete proof and/or confirmation, aside from on-going Twitter gossip, which truthfully, has been happening since Burton left The Young and the Restless.  livelikemusic    talk!  01:48, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Should we wait until Soap Opera Digest or TVGuide or even the show confirms Steve Burton's return? Jester66 (talk) 01:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * At this point, I would say yes. This is purely speculative; even DC couldn't say they 110% confirm it.  Even in their article, they mention set gossip, etc. which is not proof of re-hiring.   livelikemusic    talk!  02:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2017
The role that James DePaiva is playing is Dr. David Bensch and his first airdate is July 5, 2017 Addicy80 (talk) 18:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 18:57, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Why is the recurring cast list so long?
There's so many characters listed that haven't appeared in months and there's no indication they'll ever appear again. What are the qualifications to be listed as recurring? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.78.166.30(talk) 05:15, 29 July 2017‎ (UTC)
 * As long as there is not a citation that they have left the show, we keep them until there is a citation that they left. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 04:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * But if no citations are ever presented then what? Some of these actors/characters seem so trivial that the show would never even bother to release information on them. Take Darby Collette who was tied to Morgan Corinthos who has since been killed off of the show, Kiki and Dillon Quartermaine (who is about to make his last appearance this month); or Jared Preston, Jr. who was Hayden's ex-husband; another character that has been written out of the show. That one is a little more recent, and the Hayden character still has ties to the canvas so I could see how there is a slight possibility of him showing up again, but I highly doubt it. But what about Baxter Corbin who was tied to Hayden's real identity which has been known for over a year now, there is no need for him to come back because Hayden's identity is out. Raj and Landon Dixon have not appeared onscreen since that illegal gun plot in early 2016, and the characters were tied to, Luke, who has also left the series. Margarethe was part of the plot when Nikolas faked his death and ended up giving kidnapped with Ave; not only was Nikolas recast after but the character has since been killed off, and the other character she was tied to, played by Trent Dawson is also gone. Rick Hearst has not appeared onscreen in two years, neither has Ilene Kristen as Delia. I don't have the energy to even fight this battle anymore which is why I have given up on this list all together. It's ridiculous at this point. The character of Martina was Carly's divorce attorney, Sonny screwed her, so Carly fired her, she's NOT coming back. William Allen Young is a series regular on CBS's Code Black and has not appeared onscreen since I believe 2015, he played the judge in Maxie custody case, which has since been resolved and he also played the boyfriend of the recurring Monica Quartermaine. But by all means, do what you want with the list. Anyway, here are a few examples of confirmed departures that actually warranted publication.


 * Spencer Cassadine/Nicolas Bechtel says he is done; he hopes to return but he is DONE. http://abc.soapsindepth.com/posts/nicolas-bechtel-leaving-general-hospital-138703/photos/nicolas-bechtel-maurice-benard-238712
 * Tristan Rogers as Robert Scorpio last taped in September 2016, he is DONE too. http://soaps.sheknows.com/general-hospital/comings-and-goings/1440/tristan-rogers-returns-to-general-hospital
 * Robin Riker, Naomi (Hayden's mother) was written off ONSCREEN and sent to jail! The actress then booked another gig and said she was done. http://soaps.sheknows.com/general-hospital/comings-and-goings/1476/robin-riker-leaves-general-hospital

--Nk3play2 my buzz 06:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Carla Hall was never recurring. She made a guest appearance in 2018 yet has been listed as recurring ever since. This list need to be cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.64.122.142 (talk) 19:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Remove Watkins and McCullough from Recurring?
Hi, I was wondering if Soap Opera Digest is a good enough source to use for deciding if someone should still be in the Recurring section (it was enough in the past). Specifically, for Robert Palmer Watkins and Kimberly McCullough. The current issue (12-18) has her listed in the "Goings" section on the Comings & Goings page (it's on page 13 and I quote: "The actress has wrapped up her short-term return." For Watkins, I believe it was either the 12-4 or 12-11 issue that had a picture of him at an event and the caption said "ex-Dillon." I didn't buy the issue so I don't have more specifics on that, but I believe it was in their "Hottest Shots" section. I could understand keeping them in because GH always has people come in and out with little to no notice (esp. McCullough), but I was wondering if in general this is enough. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.190.100 (talk) 17:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Watkins has been verified to be kept on recurring status, so he'll appear when the script / story calls for him to appear (as evident from this source). And McCullough is kept in recurring—much like Silzer—due to their continued appearances each year.  livelikemusic    talk!  20:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Patty McCormack
Regardless of her status, she is still a cast member and her departure, just like her debut, should be noted within the "Departing" table. It's a cast page, not a character page, and McCormack is a cast member. Not to mention, she is still on-set filming — as four days ago — as Monica. Her stint was not given a time table, and unless a source states that she is no longer filming, it fits. Just because someone is or isn't filming does not equate to them not receiving credit as a cast member. Never has and never will.  livelikemusic    talk!  21:13, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

But if she is goin to be filming for awhile, wouldn't it make sense to not have her in the departing section until a final airdate has been announced? I mean why have her in the departing section right now, she just aired on Monday? P.J. (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Elizabeth Hendrickson Not Contract?
Hi, I know GH is notorious for not revealing contract status, but in this week's Soap Opera Digest, Elizabeth Hendrickson (Margaux) says and I quote, "I've been really lucky that I get handed these characters that kind of have these blank pages, if you will. They really have never been contract [roles]. Even Margaux is not a contract player [so] they're kind of just constantly developing the character as it goes" (p. 45, 11-19-18 issue). Is this enough to move her from Main Cast to Recurring on this page, or should it be left alone? Thanks! 68.185.190.100 (talk) 02:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

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Adding new recurring cast
Marcus and Shiloh haven't been added to the recurring cast yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.104.192 (talk) 21:29, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Done! Natalie47 (talk) 01:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

"Main cast" updates
I've provided this edit to the main page, which upped William Lipton (as Cameron Spencer), Katelyn MacMullen (as Willow Tait), Coby Ryan McLaughlin (as Shiloh), Wes Ramsey (as Peter August), Garren Stitt (as Oscar Nero) from the "Recurring cast" to "Main cast." We have maintained — for quite some time now — that without a justifiable, reliable source, we could not list these cast members as main cast-mates. However, ABC's official website for General Hospital, under "Meet the Cast," seems to only list regular players (a.k.a. main cast). As of April 15, 2019, this is who is listed (via archived URL). While the link is not a third-party, it is the best we have, since ABC does not list regular Vs recurring in their end credits (like CBS does). Therefore, it is my belief they should be listed in the "Main cast" section, instead of the previous "Recurring cast."  livelikemusic    talk!  13:38, 15 April 2019 (UTC)


 * As of June 19, 2019, the following actors (with roles in parentheses) have been bumped to recurring to regular status, and has been reflected on the main page — Sofia Mattson (Sasha Gilmore), Cynthia Watros (Nina Reeves) and Sydney Mikayla (Trina Robinson). It is also worth mentioning that Sttit (ex-Oscar) is still listed as a series regular; might be re-instate him on the cast list, despite his [previously reported] exit?  livelikemusic    talk!  12:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * As of February 13, 2020, Marcus Coloma (Nikolas Cassadine) has been upped to main cast status, per ABC's official website — which only lists regular cast members.  livelikemusic    talk!  15:18, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

As of January 2022, Inga Cadranel (Harmony Miller), Brook Kerr (Portia Robinson), Avery Kristen Pohl (Esme Prince), Amanda Setton (Brook Lynn Quartermaine), Kelly Thiebaud (Britt Westbourne) and Johnny Wactor (Brando Corbin) are listed as series regulars. Main page has been updated to reflect their change in status.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 03:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

As of March 2023, Evan Hofer is now listed as a series regular, as Dex Heller.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 23:54, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

As of April 5, 2024, Nicholas Chavez is no longer listed as a series regular; for now, he is relocated to the recurring list, with his tenure capped off at "2024"; if he returns, this can be changed.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 03:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Table
Can we please change the table slightly? . On the mobile device, the xxxx–present does not fit and it goes over two lines (e.g 2010 –present), so it does not mean much sense and takes up so much room. If you change the actors to 32% rather than 35 and the duration to 38% rather than 35 too, so then it would fit much better. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 10:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The table is perfectly fine as it is—and is a general standard set up of widths. MOS:DTAB and the general MOS do not mention anything about adhering to the mobile-view [some] editors experience, etc. On desktop, it suits the table just fine.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 01:36, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

This list is not an excuse to include cameo roles
As per both WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:UNDUE, this list should not be used as an excuse to list every role, especially tiny ones, that the cast plays on this series. Unnamed characters and minor cameo roles should not be included. It's one thing when a cast member plays the role of an established character – e.g. Chloe Lanier playing Pat Spencer: that kind of thing is legitimate to include. But including this unnammed "1920 voter" character thing in a one-off episode that was basically nothing more than a PSA is completely unnecessary and WP:UNDUE.

Pinging here, because I'd like to see what they say and I respect their opinion. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pinging me to this; sorry for slight delay in response, as I just returned home from a long and tiring day at work, so I do apologize if I am not as cohesive as I normally am. For me, it all depends on what the bit-role happens to be. So, to start off, I am going to discuss the one-off election episode and compare it to the one-off Christmas episode from 2019. We never mentioned Michael Easton portraying Ebenezer Scrooge—which admittedly would be hilarious to list his fifth overall role on General Hospital—so I am finding it kind of unnecessary to list the characters the actors portrayed during the election-focused episode. Now, some might say it is contradictory to not do this, yet to list (ie) Rebecca Herbst as portraying Jessie Brewer, which, if memory serves, was also for a one-off episode. I am in favour of IJBall's viewpoint that listing "1920 voter" is in following of WP:UNDUE and kind of even borderlines onto fluff material. Sorry if this does not make complete sense, but, in laments turn: I am in the same belief of IJBall.   livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 23:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Livelikemusic. As a general concept, I think we should generally avoid even listing "one-off" characters at a list such as this one. The focus should be on the major characters the actor played on the show (i.e. for multiple multiple episodes). I'm OK with there being a few "one-off" exceptions, like the Chloe Lanier one I mentioned above – playing an established character in a flashback scene is a little more substantive. But those should be the exceptions more than the rule. Your Ebenezer Scrooge example (and I remember that episode!) is on-point. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree, and, in the same regard, it also goes with listing Laura Wright as Lena Spencer—especially since Wright did portray the role beyond the one-off April 1, 2015, episode. Generally, I do think one-off episode characters of non-notable recognition should not be mentioned, either.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 00:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hudson West's duration
While I understand the temptation to put  it simply is not true; Hudson West was never let go from the role of Jake Spencer. Recurring players are only credited when they appear, which means they are actors at-will. Not appearing in 2020 ≠ West not being apart of the cast. Most of the younger set did not appear in 2020, due to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States and the protocols put in-place to protect the younger set.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 23:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

But this cast list is not saying who was part of the cast or on contract at what time – this is saying what years they appeared in. To say that they were a cast member in 2020 is a lie as they did not appear, and if this rule applied so many cast members would have their durations shortened. The cast list states which years they appeared in. If it was about contracts or recurring contracts it would be different. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The list is not saying "they were not an actor in 2020", it is saying "they appeared 2016 to 2019 and since 2021. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

This is what I wrote on another discussion page, before I saw this one – "An issue has arose on List of General Hospital cast members. Some actors did not appear in 2020 due to covid and have reappeared this year, so I change the duration to say "xxxx–2019, 2021" as to say that they have appeared since xxxx is a lie, as they have not appeared in 2020. To a reader this assumes that the character has appeared in 2020, when they have not. MOS specifically says to include the years that the character/actor appeared onscreen, not if they were on contract etc. The cast and character lists for years have been about whether the actor/cast member has appeared in that year, and since they didn't appear in 2020, they should not be counted – and I am not doing this to be mean of course, it is simply because if this was a rule, this would mean that A LOT of characters/cast members would have their durations shortened. And durations are speficially there so say whether the person in question appeared on screen that year, and I don't think it should be changed just due to covid" DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:52, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Again, Hudson West's duration is representative of him being on the cast, not his appearances in the character. I would understand if this were a character list, however, as a cast member, he never departed. He simply was not included, due to safety concerns over the COVID-19 pandemic. Provide a reliable, third-party source which states West was off-the-cast to backup the claims.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 03:41, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

But the cast list isn't about whether they depart or not, it's about which years they appeared in. On the MOS it specifically says to include the years that they were included in. This is not about the cast members staying on the cast or not, it is about when they appear in. To list 2016–present is incorrect because it assumes that the actor appeared in 2020, but he did not. This is inconsistent with every other page DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 03:54, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Which MOS policy states this specially where cast lists are concerned? And which is "every other page," as well? You state the "cast list isn't about whether they depart or not," and yet this is exactly what the cast members list is for: whether an actor is presently part of, debuting, departing or returning to the cast. Listing  would imply Hudson West had exited the cast, when in fact, there is no viable, reliable proof stating such information.   livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 03:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)