Talk:List of German popes

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Pope Hadrian VI should not be classified as a German Pope, he was Dutch, born in Utrecht.


 * Would anyone have an opinion about creating a List of non-Italian popes and then merge lists like this into it?--T. Anthony 06:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I'd support it.Rex 09:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If there's any more interest I might work on it this weekend or next, depending on other commitments in life.--T. Anthony 10:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that Hadrian VI should not be classified as German since he was born in Utrecht, now part of the Netherlands. It was never German. The Holy Roman Empire compassed the Kingdom of Germany, the Kingdom of Italy and the Kingdom of Burgundy; territories embracing present-day Germany (except Southern Schleswig), Austria (except Burgenland), Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, Slovenia (except Prekmurje), as well as significant parts of modern France (mainly Artois, Alsace, Franche-Comté, Savoie and Lorraine), Italy (mainly Lombardy, Piedmont, Emilia-Romagna, Tuscany, and South Tyrol), and present-day Poland (mainly Silesia, Pomerania, and Neumark). In that retrospect Pope John Paull II would have been German as well. Pope Hadrian VI didn't speak German so I think it's safe to say he's not German--Jorgenpfhartogs (talk) 08:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)