Talk:List of Grand Dukes of Luxembourg

House name
Could Charles please provide some evidence that the Grand Dukes should be referred to as monarchs of the House of Bourbon-Parma? The Constitution of Luxembourg clearly states that the Grand Duchy is inherited within the House of Nassau as dictated by the Nassau Family Pact. The Nassau Family Pact makes no mention of Bourbon-Parmas, but does of Nassau-Weilburgs (as amended in 1907).

Moreover, the monarchy's official website doesn't mention Bourbon-Parma (Bourbon-Parme) once, except in giving the name of Grand Duchess Charlotte's spouse and one of the titles bourne by Grand Duke Jean. On the other hand, it mentions them belonging to the House of Nassau, or of Nassau-Weilburg, on every relevant page (succession, list of sovereigns, the dynasty, etc). If the monarchy's official list of Grand Dukes doesn't mention the incidental relation to the House of Bourbon-Parma, why should Wikipedia's? Bastin 19:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Jean has the title "Prince of Bourbon-Parma" as a member of the House of Bourbon-Parma himself. There is no restriction on the number of houses a person can be number of. Jean might have been head of the House of Nassau-Weilburg but he is also a member of the House of Bourbon-Parma by male-line descent. Being a member of one house doesn't replace membership in another. Of course, people usually highlight what they are or claim to be heads of rather than members of only. Both are important though. Charles 23:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Correct, there is no restriction, so people have - by convention - given the name of the predominant house as that by which they categorise monarchs. That is usually the house by whose line the title has been inherited, or the house from which the monarch's personal name is adopted.  In the British tradition, we have changed the house name whenever a female monarch is married into another dynasty.  However, that's not how it works in Luxembourg: as proven by the fact that nobody calls the grand ducal house 'Bourbon-Parma'.  Ever.  For Wikipedia to do so would be original research unless you prove otherwise. Bastin 11:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * They are a junior branch of the House of Bourbon-Parma. They can call themselves whatever they wish but it does not change that fact. I am not the originator of this, I have seen it summarized by many, including Guy Stair Sainty. Charles 20:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)